21-07 OTA Software Update Announced

aceman · 10-14-2021, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nZtiZia

you've rebooted iDrive (~30 sec VOL hold), but have you rebooted telematics (~70+ sec VOL hold for 3 consecutive iDrive restarts)?

I have not - so just hold it for appx 70+ sec and see it reboot 3x? Will give it a shot - thx.

jad03060 · 10-14-2021, 10:29 PM

On my old i3, if I was having problems with the cellular, I'd sometimes pull the fuse on the module...that forced it to reset and run its initialization. That usually fixed that portion. I have no idea what fuse that module is on in the X5, and a passive forced reset would be my first choice as literally power cycling things on a system that is expected to constantly have power applied, probably isn't great for its reliability.

SmartSaves · 10-15-2021, 10:39 AM

This is how the update shows up on G20:

Splang · 10-27-2021, 12:56 AM

Anyone in uk had this ota? Thanks

Norbimmer · 10-27-2021, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Splang

Anyone in uk had this ota? Thanks

I have it, although not in the UK, but EU and not Germany which was first in the roll-out plan. Got it OTA. Can’t say I have noticed anything special really in everyday use. Podcast in Spotify is a good addition.

BrummyGit · 10-28-2021, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Norbimmer

I have it, although not in the UK, but EU and not Germany which was first in the roll-out plan. Got it OTA. Can’t say I have noticed anything special really in everyday use. Podcast in Spotify is a good addition.

Do you have Driving Assistant Pro? I'm interested to know if its lane keeping has improved with the claimed improvements to the lane departure system.

Also keen to find out of traffic light recognition is activated for UK now.

jad03060 · 10-28-2021, 03:48 PM

One thing I eventually did discover, is that I tended to drive a bit more towards the left-hand side of my lane...the vehicle tries to center you, and if you're passing someone on a multi-lane road, it was a little spooky until I realized, it was doing a better job of centering me in my lane than I was...Once that realization took hold, I was not fighting the steering at all anymore. So far, and it's only happened once, it steered me off-center and noted that the vehicle to my right was crowding me around a curve. In that case, I think it actually had my left-hand wheels either on or over the lane marker, where normally, it would have been shaking the steering wheel to tell me I was there...this was all done by the vehicle by itself without my intervention.

The system has a learning curve, and, as I found, was actually doing what it should have.

walkday · 10-29-2021, 06:20 PM

My 45e was delivered in September with the iDrive showing 07/2021.22 - do I already have the 21-07 version?

SmartSaves · 10-29-2021, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by walkday

My 45e was delivered in September with the iDrive showing 07/2021.22 - do I already have the 21-07 version?

Yes

jad03060 · 10-29-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by walkday

My 45e was delivered in September with the iDrive showing 07/2021.22 - do I already have the 21-07 version?

The updates are indicated by the year/month/version. So, yes. Now, there may or may not be a minor update different from your .22, but from what I've seen, people don't get those minor changes (and they MIGHT be relative to the equipment on board), so you're unlikely to get a minor tweak to your 07/2021 version unless you went in for service and had a specific complaint that that update might fix.

walkday · 10-29-2021, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jad03060

The updates are indicated by the year/month/version. So, yes. Now, there may or may not be a minor update different from your .22, but from what I've seen, people don't get those minor changes (and they MIGHT be relative to the equipment on board), so you're unlikely to get a minor tweak to your 07/2021 version unless you went in for service and had a specific complaint that that update might fix.

Thanks. I will settle with the current version. Out of curiosity, is the update only available through OTA or at the dealerships, nowhere else?

jad03060 · 10-30-2021, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by walkday

Thanks. I will settle with the current version. Out of curiosity, is the update only available through OTA or at the dealerships, nowhere else?

If you obtain the factory software, and keep the files up to date, you can do it yourself. That takes some learning and risk if you're not somewhat skilled.

elp · 10-30-2021, 06:11 AM

I have not seen this coming through OTA, Is there anything I can do to get the update show up?

nZtiZia · 10-30-2021, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elp

I have not seen this coming through OTA, Is there anything I can do to get the update show up?

unfortunately no. nobody has figured out the algorithm of release to vehicles. it's just a waiting game, but it does seem to roll out region by region.

as mentioned earlier, folks can get an 'early' update if their vehicle happens to go in for service and BMW authorizes a software update as a possible remedy to the service issue.

10101X5 · 10-30-2021, 08:07 AM

Didn't know this rolls out region by region. Never excited about these updates but decided to try out because of claimed improved lane assist. I thought it was improved on the way to work. On the way home when I was near a high median to enter freeway, it scared the *** out of me. Could have hit the median easily if my mind was off or on the phone check bimmerpost.

No more steering intervention. I noticed it also reset some codes but not all.

nZtiZia · 10-30-2021, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 10101X5

Didn't know this rolls out region by region. Never excited about these updates but decided to try out because of claimed improved lane assist. I thought it was improved on the way to work. On the way home when I was near a high median to enter freeway, it scared the *** out of me. Could have hit the median easily if my mind was off or on the phone check bimmerpost.

No more steering intervention. I noticed it also reset some codes but not all.

it's not a strict region by region rollout, but generally. the OTA update was released in Germany first.

so you didn't notice a 'safer' improvement in the steering intervention algorithm? that sucks cuz that's the main feature i was looking fwd to.

Norbimmer · 10-30-2021, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BrummyGit

Do you have Driving Assistant Pro? I'm interested to know if its lane keeping has improved with the claimed improvements to the lane departure system.

Also keen to find out of traffic light recognition is activated for UK now.

I do have DAP but have to drive it some more to be able to tell you if there are improvements. Haven’t been driving much since the update, and mainly city traffic.
The traffic light warning is there, but I’m not in the UK, and I had it with the prev version as well.

soniczoom5 · 10-30-2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

My November 2020 built X5MC still has the same 2020-11 software that it got delivered with. Since BMW chose a crappy service (AT&T) which has piss poor coverage around here, I doubt my car will get the update.
They should have went with Verizon, but then the stockholders would miss a $1.00 extra a month from their dividends. That can't happen.

Uh the update can be sent via your phone so not sure what you’re complaint about

BobsM3Coupe · 10-31-2021, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by soniczoom5

Uh the update can be sent via your phone so not sure what you’re complaint about

My phone (S10+ Verizon) hasn't received any update from BMW either.

nZtiZia · 10-31-2021, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

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Originally Posted by soniczoom5

Uh the update can be sent via your phone so not sure what you're complaint about

My phone (S10+ Verizon) hasn't received any update from BMW either.

Uh until the OTA update notification stating the remote software upgrade is ready shows up on his phone (MyBMW app) or iDrive, he can't just retrieve it from the cloud/server at will or send anything from his phone so not sure what you're talking about soniczoom5.

(like BobsM3Coupe said, he's still on 11/2020 and yet to get the "ready to install" notification for 03/2021 OTA from BMW.)

jad03060 · 10-31-2021, 08:32 PM

The March update wasn't sent to me until way after the next one was available at the dealerships during a maintenance update for a specific problem before mine updated...and, it skipped last November's update entirely. I was told that, depending on the specific configuration, there may not be something in one of the periodic updates for every vehicle, and the vehicle may not receive it. Plus, it's not like a WIN or iOS update, where most of the world gets it at nearly the same time...it gets pushed to vehicles, and it's not obvious what priority scheme is used, but BMW has said, it is phased by market, and Germany would get it first. There's no way to 'pull' it manually. You either get it OTA, or have the software applied by a dealer or someone that has the files.

10101X5 · 11-01-2021, 10:12 AM

After the update it reset ASS and video in motion. So I coded them back in. At some point in the process, I got a message saying something like "Rear cross traffic alert malfunctioning. Please see dealership." Anyone got this message? My RCTA came up maybe once or twice since day 1. So I wonder if RCTA actually malfunctions or it's what I did with the coding.

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jad03060 Major General 3153 Rep 6,789 Posts Drives: X5 45e Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	On my old i3, if I was having problems with the cellular, I'd sometimes pull the fuse on the module...that forced it to reset and run its initialization. That usually fixed that portion. I have no idea what fuse that module is on in the X5, and a passive forced reset would be my first choice as literally power cycling things on a system that is expected to constantly have power applied, probably isn't great for its reliability.
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10-15-2021, 10:39 AM	#47
SmartSaves X5 Enthusiast 461 Rep 762 Posts Drives: 2021 X5 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Neighbourhood of Santa iTrader: (0) Garage List 2021 BMW X5 [10.00]	This is how the update shows up on G20: __________________ 2021 X5, Excellence, M Sport, DHP, DAP, RSE, MW, Merino.
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Splang Enlisted Member 6 Rep 46 Posts Drives: BMW X5 G05 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Fleet uk iTrader: (0)	Anyone in uk had this ota? Thanks
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jad03060 Major General 3153 Rep 6,789 Posts Drives: X5 45e Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	One thing I eventually did discover, is that I tended to drive a bit more towards the left-hand side of my lane...the vehicle tries to center you, and if you're passing someone on a multi-lane road, it was a little spooky until I realized, it was doing a better job of centering me in my lane than I was...Once that realization took hold, I was not fighting the steering at all anymore. So far, and it's only happened once, it steered me off-center and noted that the vehicle to my right was crowding me around a curve. In that case, I think it actually had my left-hand wheels either on or over the lane marker, where normally, it would have been shaking the steering wheel to tell me I was there...this was all done by the vehicle by itself without my intervention. The system has a learning curve, and, as I found, was actually doing what it should have.
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walkday Private First Class 98 Rep 172 Posts Drives: BMW X5 xDrive45e Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	My 45e was delivered in September with the iDrive showing 07/2021.22 - do I already have the 21-07 version?
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10-30-2021, 06:11 AM	#57
elp Private First Class 39 Rep 114 Posts Drives: BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Seattle WA iTrader: (0)	I have not seen this coming through OTA, Is there anything I can do to get the update show up?
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10101X5 Captain 465 Rep 789 Posts Drives: 10101X101 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Didn't know this rolls out region by region. Never excited about these updates but decided to try out because of claimed improved lane assist. I thought it was improved on the way to work. On the way home when I was near a high median to enter freeway, it scared the *** out of me. Could have hit the median easily if my mind was off or on the phone check bimmerpost. No more steering intervention. I noticed it also reset some codes but not all.
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10-31-2021, 08:32 PM	#65
jad03060 Major General 3153 Rep 6,789 Posts Drives: X5 45e Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	The March update wasn't sent to me until way after the next one was available at the dealerships during a maintenance update for a specific problem before mine updated...and, it skipped last November's update entirely. I was told that, depending on the specific configuration, there may not be something in one of the periodic updates for every vehicle, and the vehicle may not receive it. Plus, it's not like a WIN or iOS update, where most of the world gets it at nearly the same time...it gets pushed to vehicles, and it's not obvious what priority scheme is used, but BMW has said, it is phased by market, and Germany would get it first. There's no way to 'pull' it manually. You either get it OTA, or have the software applied by a dealer or someone that has the files.
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11-01-2021, 10:12 AM	#66
10101X5 Captain 465 Rep 789 Posts Drives: 10101X101 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	After the update it reset ASS and video in motion. So I coded them back in. At some point in the process, I got a message saying something like "Rear cross traffic alert malfunctioning. Please see dealership." Anyone got this message? My RCTA came up maybe once or twice since day 1. So I wonder if RCTA actually malfunctions or it's what I did with the coding.
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