[kplatinum777]

Originally Posted by TCBavarian

I believe we are in week 43. Oct 19 is week 42. Remember that your build week is considered the week your car rolls off the line completed.

Oh, okay. Thanks. That's consistent with BMW's estimated date of completion, which is November 1 (next week). It entered production last week, so it miiiight have just made the cutoff to still have the touchscreen. Even though I do have the "Deletion of Backup Assistant" line item.

[reli]

I'm not sure if I got lucky or got through the cut off dates for this

My car build week was either 10/4 or 10/11
It arrived at the dealership 10/18 I picked it up on 10/22

It has touch screen and back up assistant can confirm.
It also has the ambinet lighting in the back seats as some was discussing it was missing.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by kplatinum777

Oh, okay. Thanks. That's consistent with BMW's estimated date of completion, which is November 1 (next week). It entered production last week, so it miiiight have just made the cutoff to still have the touchscreen. Even though I do have the "Deletion of Backup Assistant" line item.

It seems production week 44 is the start. I'll have to investigate more

[sjsnyc]

I’m in a similar boat, was informed my X7 build (week 43) would lack a touchscreen. Anyone understand what the actual component shortage is? Is it the display itself and if so, I have to believe this could be corrected retroactively. Screens break and people replace them.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by calbears

It seems production week 44 is the start. I'll have to investigate more

While you are looking into it, can you check and see if the touch screen is being deleted from vehicles where the VIN has already been assigned? Generally once that stage occurs the build doesn't change. I guess given we are in unusual times anything can happen. Thanks.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

While you are looking into it, can you check and see if the touch screen is being deleted from vehicles where the VIN has already been assigned? Generally once that stage occurs the build doesn't change. I guess given we are in unusual times anything can happen. Thanks.

I checked that earlier. X5s (at least with our store) in 111 or 112 still have the touchscreen. Those in 150 have had them removed with the credit (VIN assigned), it looks to be hit and miss if the backup assistant is removed (no credit).

[calbears]

Looking at our orders in production, it seems to have started sometime during production week 43 and affects through week 45 right now

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by calbears

I checked that earlier. X5s (at least with our store) in 111 or 112 still have the touchscreen. Those in 150 have had them removed with the credit (VIN assigned), it looks to be hit and miss if the backup assistant is removed (no credit).

Ok thanks. Just to make sure I'm reading that correctly, were they removed in conjunction with the status changing to 150 or were they in 150 for a period of time and had them removed?

[calbears]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Ok thanks. Just to make sure I'm reading that correctly, were they removed in conjunction with the status changing to 150 or were they in 150 for a period of time and had them removed?

I'm not sure I can determine that precisely. I'd guess that once it flipped to 150, any deletions occurred in conjunction with that.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by calbears

I'm not sure I can determine that precisely. I'd guess that once it flipped to 150, any deletions occurred in conjunction with that.

Thanks, that is my understanding of how it works. Have a good one.

[Chuck_skyline]

Is there a way to check within the features on my build in mygarage whether the touchscreen was removed? I’m week 44 as well - and see the “deletion of backup assistant” as well.

[3Wagon]

Originally Posted by calbears

I checked that earlier. X5s (at least with our store) in 111 or 112 still have the touchscreen. Those in 150 have had them removed with the credit (VIN assigned), it looks to be hit and miss if the backup assistant is removed (no credit).

I'd assume the 111 and 112 are just a matter of time to get the touchscreens removed? I'd assume this wasn't a 1 week blip; if it was, they should just hold them at factory until the touchscreens come in a week later and put them in. My guess is that this, like everything else, a "for the forseeable future" kind of delection.

No credit for the removal for backup assistant AFTER the order was placed is WEAK. Cmon, that wasn't what I paid for - ridic.

[Flying Ace]

i'm not quite following. How is "Deletion of backup assist" related to deletion of touchscreen?

was touchscreen standard since launch?

[mseo7]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

was touchscreen standard since launch?

I just went on BMW USA website and looked up standard features. Here's a screen shot showing Touch Screen is included under Instrumentation and Controls.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by reli

I'm not sure if I got lucky or got through the cut off dates for this

My car build week was either 10/4 or 10/11
It arrived at the dealership 10/18 I picked it up on 10/22

It has touch screen and back up assistant can confirm.
It also has the ambinet lighting in the back seats as some was discussing it was missing.

You obviously just made cut off. Your build week indicates Week 41-42. It was confirmed this started in Week 43, Oct 17.

[3Wagon]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

i'm not quite following. How is "Deletion of backup assist" related to deletion of touchscreen?

Same week deletion. we just don't enough details of why yet, it's just what was noticed at same time.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by 3Wagon

Same week deletion. we just don't enough details of why yet, it's just what was noticed at same time.

so we're assuming that when they deleted "backup assist", they also deleted touchscreen?

Also isn't this flawed proxy? Wasn't backup assist only part of Parking Assistance package, so you would have to have ordered that package and look for the deletion line.

I ordered Parking Assistance btw and do not have "deletion" line.

My car is done btw. Week 43:

10/11 = Production Begins
10/22 = Entering Assembly Line
10/23 = awaiting carrier assignment

[Flying Ace]

just a guess here, product brochure says Live Professional is digital gauge AND touchscreen central display.

If anyone can try to decode their VINs who know or suspect their touchscreen was deleted, this line may indicate that touchscreen is still there?

S6U3 BMW Live Operating Area Professional

[3Wagon]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

so we're assuming that when they deleted "backup assist", they also deleted touchscreen?

Also isn't this flawed proxy? Wasn't backup assist only part of Parking Assistance package, so you would have to have ordered that package and look for the deletion line.

Whoa - you're reading into this. No one said they were connected. They just happened around same week and came up same day.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by 3Wagon

Whoa - you're reading into this. No one said they were connected. They just happened around same week and came up same day.

Yeah I hear ya. I want to hear a story that works in my favor.

This is my first ordered BMW, and losing both backup assist and touch screen is a pretty big blow for me.

When I read up on all the features that came with the new X5, literally the two features I was most excited about were these two.

Hope is fading that I was not effected, but I am definitely a confirmed week 43.

[3Wagon]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

When I read up on all the features that came with the new X5, literally the two features I was most excited about were these two.

I can definitely see casese where Backup Assistant could be a dealbreaker for some, especially if you had a daily use for it. For me, not really, but I definitely wanted it. I should at least be compensated for it and I am a bit disappointed that this info wasn’t pushed to me and I had to find out. seriously, BMW could have just done a notification into the MyBMW app/website or emailed when it happened. There are going to likely be many people who show up at the dealer and get surprised.

Touchscreen, that’s a different thing. That might be a dealbreaker for me; still waiting to hear from my SA. Like, it’s got that big gorgeous screen right there, angled right at the driver. 12.3 inches of screen with big huge icons to tap…. and I won’t be able to do it. I mean, I’m gonna try all the damn time and every time it doesn’t work, I’m gonna get a little salty.

It’s just gonna suck every time that happens, if it does. It’ll feel so bad that it’s even a model year 2022 fully spec’d 95k car and it doesn’t have a freaking touchscreen. The worst bit is that the grass isn’t greener elsewhere - everyone has supply issues. It’s likely just a shit sandwich I gotta eat and then thank the chef after. That’s what sucks.

[TCBavarian]

These parts shortages are very real and all rules seem to be off for what any marketing says.

There was even several 5 series that got delivered to the dealer with no infotainment. It was literally just wires sticking out of the car. Just wires! Never seen anything like it. They were on stop sale and I guess BMW said they have to wait until the parts arrive and service to install them.

I think BMW is doing the best they can to continue moving cars off the line and getting them to those who need them. It's really the dealers that need to stay on top of this and inform buyers that their orders may not come with that feature. I suppose it may not have hit the website or marketing materials because it is such a short production issue. I do think it's going to be a deal breaker for many of you. I'm curious to know how many out there do use the touchscreen feature of idrive. My mother (70) did on her new G20. That's because it was much easier to teach her that than all the functions using the Knob.