[hulu]

I think this worths a new thread.
Just checked a X5 40i produced on 11/17, and it has the touchscreen.
So it's just two weeks of productions without a touchscreen.
I have to say, BMW, make it right for all the customers affected by the deletion.
For those who has not received your delivery yet, there is an option: cancel and reorder.

the 11/07 X5:
agModelCode: "CR43"
bodyType: "G05"
bodyTypeDesc: "SAV"
carImageURL: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?brand=WBBM&client=byo&vehicle=22XO&paint =P0A90&fabric=FMCEW&sa=S0ZAX,US_S0ZAX,S0ZN1,US_S0Z N1,S0ZN3,US_S0ZN3,S0ZN4,US_S0ZN4,S0ZPK,US_S0ZPK,S0 ZPX,US_S0ZPX,S0ZTM,US_S0ZTM,S0ZX1,US_S0ZX1,S0ZX2,U S_S0ZX2,S0ZX3,US_S0ZX3,S01CB,US_S01CB,S01CE,US_S01 CE,S01CR,US_S01CR,S01SF,US_S01SF,S02TB,US_S02TB,S0 2VB,US_S02VB,S0212,US_S0212,S0255,US_S0255,S0258,U S_S0258,S03AT,US_S03AT,S03MB,US_S03MB,S0300,US_S03 00,S0302,US_S0302,S0319,US_S0319,S0322,US_S0322,S0 4AW,US_S04AW,S04A2,US_S04A2,S04FL,US_S04FL,S04HB,U S_S04HB,S04KT,US_S04KT,S04NB,US_S04NB,S04NE,US_S04 NE,S04T8,US_S04T8,S04UR,US_S04UR,S0407,US_S0407,S0 417,US_S0417,S0420,US_S0420,S0423,US_S0423,S0456,U S_S0456,S05AC,US_S05AC,S05AL,US_S05AL,S05AP,US_S05 AP,S05AS,US_S05AS,S05AV,US_S05AV,S05AZ,US_S05AZ,S0 5DN,US_S05DN,S06AC,US_S06AC,S06AE,US_S06AE,S06AK,U S_S06AK,S06C4,US_S06C4,S06DR,US_S06DR,S06NS,US_S06 NS,S06U3,US_S06U3,S06U8,US_S06U8,S0610,US_S0610,S0 645,US_S0645,S0655,US_S0655,S0676,US_S0676,S07HW,U S_S07HW,S0775,US_S0775,S08KL,US_S08KL,S08R9,US_S08 R9,S08SM,US_S08SM,S08TN,US_S08TN,S0823,US_S0823,S0 842,US_S0842,S0845,US_S0845,S0853,US_S0853,S09AA,U S_S09AA,S0992,US_S0992,&pov=walkaround&angle=270&b kgnd=transparent&resp=png&height=300"
colorCode: "0A90"
exteriorColor: "Dark Graphite Metallic"
exteriorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=paint_200x75& paint=P0A90"
has7ME: false
interiorColor: "Ivory White Vernasca Leather"
interiorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=fabric_200x75 &fabric=FMCEW"
lineMakeId: "2"
longDesc: "X5 sDrive40i"
makeDesc: "BMW"
modelYear: "2022"
naModelCode: "22XO"
options: "0ZAX 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZPX 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01SF 02TB 02VB 0212 0255 0258 03AT 03MB 0300 0302 0319 0322 04AW 04A2 04FL 04HB 04KT 04NB 04NE 04T8 04UR 0407 0417 0420 0423 0456 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AS 05AV 05AZ 05DN 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NS 06U3 06U8 0610 0645 0655 0676 07HW 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992"
orderStatusCode: "182"
overHeadLongMessage: "A carrier has been assigned to take care of your BMW."
overHeadMessage: "Awaiting carrier assignment"
overHeadMessageSequence: "10"
prodDate: "2021-11-17"
prodNum: "6732669"
retlDate: ""
seriesCode: "X"
upholsteryCode: "MCEW"
vehicleInd: "PROD"
vin: "5UXCR4C05N9K47439"

[omasou]

FYI, I have been refreshing my Track status page all day and nada. Then I saw this post and remembered the API calls are on the My Vehicle page, refreshed, boom, update. Seems some things are caching and I had to log out and in to get pages to update.

Thanks hulu!

[PrinceHarrysBoo]

Originally Posted by omasou

FYI, I have been refreshing my Track status page all day and nada. Then I saw this post and remembered the API calls are on the My Vehicle page, refreshed, boom, update. Seems some things are caching and I had to log out and in to get pages to update.

Thanks hulu!

What’s are API calls?

[hulu]

A way to decode a VIN:
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=51

Originally Posted by PrinceHarrysBoo

What’s are API calls?

[Gstahl]

Originally Posted by hulu

A way to decode a VIN:
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=51

Basically on the first my garage page (not the detail track status page) you can follow that link and use the information returned in the HTML to get the actual list of options your car was built with (which then in many ways is what is printed on the window sticker). Large scale operations cannot use humans to not make mistakes so everything is keyed to this build/built list of codes that define the vehicle. Follow the instruction and as they say Profit!

[PrinceHarrysBoo]

Originally Posted by hulu

A way to decode a VIN:
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=51

Thanks! I used this but had no idea what it was called.

[omasou]

Originally Posted by PrinceHarrysBoo

What’s are API calls?

The web site is calling functions (API - Application Programming Interface) to query the build system. I haven't dug into it but it appears the calls are made on the My Vehicle page and Track My BMW displays the previously returned information. But I did see some weird caching that only refreshed after logging out and in.

Probably more than you wanted to know.

For example,

"NEW_USER_DETAILS": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/nsclegit/newuserDetails",
"LINK_GCID": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/nsclegit/deleteOldAndLinkNewGCID",
"VALIDATE_VIN_NSC": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/nsclegit/validateVinAndCompleteLegitProcess",
"RETRIEVE_VEHICLE_DETAILS": "/mybmw/resources/TrackMyBMW/RetrieveVehicleDetails",
"FIND_VEHICLE_BY_VIN": "/mybmw/resources/managevehicles/findVehicleByVIN",
"FIND_VEHICLE_BY_PRODNUM": "/mybmw/resources/managevehicles/findVehiclebyProdNum",
"GET_MYBMW_MODELS": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/getmybmwmodels",
"GET_MYBMW_MODEL_DETAILS": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/getmybmwmodelDetails",
"GET_MYBMW_MOI_MODELS": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/getnewmodels",
"REMOVE_USER_MOI": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/removeUserMOI",
"SRO": "/mybmw/resources/vehicles/v1/SRO",
"ADD_USER_PROD_VEHICLE": "/mybmw/resources/manageDrivenVehicles/addUserProdVehicle",
"ADD_DRIVEN_VEHICLE": "/mybmw/resources/manageDrivenVehicles/addDrivenVehicle",
"VEHICLE_PROFILE_INFO": "/mybmw/resources/vehicleprofile/getvehicleProfile",
"VEHICLE_PROFILE_FEATURES_OPTIONS": "/mybmw/resources/vehicleprofile/getvehicleFeatures",
"UPDATE_VEHICLE_NICKNAME": "/mybmw/resources/vehicleprofile/updateVehicleNickname",
"GET_DEALER_SERVICE_CENTER": "/dealerlocator/v1/dealerlocator/getdealerdetails/",
"GET_DEALER_SERVICE_CENTER_BY_CITY": "/dealerlocator/v1/dealerlocator/getdealerdetailsByCityState",
"GET_DEALERS_BY_NAME": "/dealerlocator/v1/dealerlocator/getdealerdetailsByDealerName",
"GET_PREF_SERVICE_DEALER_SRO": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/v1/RetrievePrefServiceDealerSearch",
"GET_PREF_SERVICE_DEALER_SRD": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/v1/RetrieveSRDPrefServiceDealer",
"GET_DEALER_DETAILS": "/dealerlocator/v1/dealerlocator/getdealerdetailsByDealerIdLocationId/",
"UPDATE_SERVICE_CENTER_SRO": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/v1/UpdatePrefServiceDealerSearch",
"UPDATE_SERVICE_CENTER_SRD": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/v1/UpdateSRDPrefServiceDealer",
"GET_PREF_SALES_DEALER": "/mybmw/resources/managePreferredSalesDealer/retrieveSalesDealerDetails",
"UPDATE_PREF_SALES_CENTER": "/mybmw/resources/managePreferredSalesDealer/updateSalesDealerDetails",
"UB_GET_SERIES_MODELS": "/mybmw/resources/UltimateBenefits/getModelHistory",
"MOI_TESTDRIVE": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/testdriveLead",
"REMOVE_SRD_FROM_GARAGE": "/mybmw/resources/garage/removeSRDVehicle",
"REMOVE_PRODVEHICLE_FROM_GARAGE": "/mybmw/resources/garage/removePRODVehicle",
"GET_SERVICE_ALERTS": "/mybmw/resources/vehicleprofile/getVehicleAlerts",
"HIDE_SERVICE_ALERT": "/mybmw/resources/vehicleprofile/hideVehicleAlertsInPG",
"GET_DEALER_BUY_SELL_DETAILS": "/mybmw/resources/dealerprofile/v1/RetrieveDealerInfo/",
"GET_VEHICLE_VIDEOS": "/mybmw/resources/vehicleprofile/getVehicleVideos",
"MOI_VEHICLE_PROFILE_INFO": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/getMOIVehicleProfile",
"GET_GARAGE_SAVED_BUILDS": "/mybmw/resources/garage/getGarageSavedBuild",
"SAVE_GARAGE_BUILDS": "/mybmw/resources/garage/saveGarageSavedBuild",
"GET_MODEL_DETAILS_BY_MODELCODE": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/getBmwModelsFromModelCode",
"GET_WARRANTY_SERVICE": "/mybmw/resources/serviceNwarranty/v1/services",
"REQUEST_QUOTE": "/mybmw/resources/modelofinterest/v1/getQuoteLead",
"GET_XTIME_TOKEN": "/mybmw/resources/serviceToken/v1/getencryptedgcid",
"GET_NOTIFICATIONS": "/mybmw/resources/userMessages",
"UPDATE_NOTIFICATION_STATUS": "/mybmw/resources/userMessages/updateMessageStatus",
"DELETE_NOTIFICATION": "/mybmw/resources/userMessages/deleteUserNotification",
"LOAD_NOTIFICATIONS": "/mybmw/resources/loadnotifications",
"GET_NOTIFICATIONS_STATUS": "/mybmw/resources/loadnotifications/status",
"DELETE_NOTIFICATIONS_LOADER": "/mybmw/resources/loadnotifications/loader",
"UPDATE_SEARCH_STATUS": "/mybmw/resources/managevehicles/updateSearchStatus",
"GET_VALUE_SERVICES": "/mybmw/resources/ddr/v1/valueService",
"UPDATE_CONTACT_DETAILS": "/mybmw/resources/consumerprofile/nsclegit/updateUserDetails"

[yeetyeet]

prod date 11/15 <- buddies build
0ZAX 0ZMP 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZPP 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 0ZX7 01CB 01CE 01CR 01PQ 02TB 02VB
02VF 0212 03AC 03DZ 03MC 03M2 0300 0302 0319 0322 0337 04AW 04A2 04FL 04HB 04KT 04NB 04NE
04T8 04UR 0402 0420 0423 0459 0481 0488 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AS 05AV 05DN 0552 06AC 06AE 06AK
06C4 06DR 06NS 06U3 06U8 0610 0645 0655 0676 07M9 0710 0715 0760 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN
0823 0840 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992
(Factory added the hitch without notification) (Park distance control a good sign?)

prod date 12/02 <- my build
0ZAX 0ZMP 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZPP 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01PQ 02TB 02VB 02VF
0212 03DZ 03MC 03M2 0300 0302 0319 0322 0337 04AW 04A2 04FL 04HB 04KT 04NB 04NE 04T8 04UR
0402 0420 0423 0459 0481 0488 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AS 05AV 05DN 0552 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR
06NS 06U3 06U8 0610 0645 0655 0676 07M9 0710 0715 0760 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0840
0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992

prod date 12/02 <- random x5
0ZAX 0ZMP 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01TD 02TB 02VB 02VF 0212 0258
03DZ 03MC 0302 0319 0322 0337 04AW 04FL 04HB 04KT 04NB 04NE 04T8 04UR 0402 0417 0420 0423
0459 0481 0488 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AS 05AV 05DN 0552 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NS 06U3 0645
0655 0676 0710 0715 0760 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992

prod date 12/04 <- random x5
0ZAX 0ZDY 0ZMP 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZPX 0ZRC 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01PA 02TB
02VB 02VF 0212 03DZ 03MC 03M2 0300 0302 0319 0322 0337 04AW 04A2 04FL 04HA 04HB 04KP 04NB
04NE 04T8 04UR 0407 0417 0420 0423 0456 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AR 05AU 05AV 05AZ 05DN 06AC 06AE
06AK 06C4 06DR 06NS 06U3 06U8 0610 0645 0655 0676 07M9 0710 0715 0760 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM
08TN 0823 0840 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992

prod date 12/06 <- random x5
0ZAX 0ZMP 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZPP 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01TD 02TB 02VB 02VF
0212 0258 03DZ 03MC 03M2 0302 0319 0322 0337 04AW 04FL 04HB 04KT 04NB 04NE 04T8 04UR 0402
0420 0423 0459 0481 0488 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AS 05AV 05DN 0552 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NS
06U3 06U8 0610 0645 0655 0676 07M9 0710 0715 0760 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845
0853 09AA 0992

[hulu]

The question here is:

Will the dealer/SA be honest with affecred customers about the "touchscreen is back" info?

If so, I believe most of the customers will just cancel their custom build orders.

Then, dealers will have rows of touchless vehicles on their lot. so the next question is:

Will dealer be honest with potential buyers about the issue "only a small window vehicles are with out touchscreen"? If so, I bet they have to do a big % discount to sell those touchless cars.

[MadameLV85]

This is bothering me. My allocation got pulled ahead 4 weeks and because of that I will not have a touchscreen. I don't really use touchscreen in my current 530e, but that's besides the point. They need to retrofit the vehicles impacted.

Also, does anyone know if backup assistant is still removed?

[PrinceHarrysBoo]

Originally Posted by MadameLV85

This is bothering me. My allocation got pulled ahead 4 weeks and because of that I will not have a touchscreen. I don't really use touchscreen in my current 530e, but that's besides the point. They need to retrofit the vehicles impacted.

Also, does anyone know if backup assistant is still removed?

Are you positive? Have you called the genus line?

[hulu]

Backup assistant deletion is coupled with touchscreen deletion if you opted for the Parking Assist Package.

Originally Posted by MadameLV85

This is bothering me. My allocation got pulled ahead 4 weeks and because of that I will not have a touchscreen. I don't really use touchscreen in my current 530e, but that's besides the point. They need to retrofit the vehicles impacted.

Also, does anyone know if backup assistant is still removed?

[Rsrwnab]

Originally Posted by hulu

The question here is:

Will the dealer/SA be honest with affecred customers about the "touchscreen is back" info?

If so, I believe most of the customers will just cancel their custom build orders.

Then, dealers will have rows of touchless vehicles on their lot. so the next question is:

Will dealer be honest with potential buyers about the issue "only a small window vehicles are with out touchscreen"? If so, I bet they have to do a big % discount to sell those touchless cars.

I'm in that boat with a 45 M sport order with individual paint and interior. My dealer is telling me it will have touchscreen, tow, and backup assist..... my build week is 12/50.. so fingers crossed or I will walk .

I ordered end of August and my color choice was confirmed 9/10

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by PrinceHarrysBoo

Are you positive? Have you called the genus line?

i think he called the species line.

(sorry, had to do it!)

[MadameLV85]

Originally Posted by PrinceHarrysBoo

Are you positive? Have you called the genus line?

Yes. My car was supposed to be a week 49 allocation but was completed two weeks ago. It's waiting at the port in San Bernardino right now waiting to get processed.

[Flying Ace]

This is an interesting new development

[GS2019]

was anyone able to confirm this or just all guesses and hopes

[hulu]

I feel so sorry for you.

It should have the touchscreen if it stayed with week49

Originally Posted by MadameLV85

Yes. My car was supposed to be a week 49 allocation but was completed two weeks ago. It's waiting at the port in San Bernardino right now waiting to get processed.

[hulu]

Only BMW itself can 100% confirm.

But here is some kind of confirmation:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=10

Originally Posted by GS2019

was anyone able to confirm this or just all guesses and hopes

[91Eunos]

Originally Posted by Rsrwnab

I'm in that boat with a 45 M sport order with individual paint and interior. My dealer is telling me it will have touchscreen, tow, and backup assist..... my build week is 12/50.. so fingers crossed or I will walk .

I ordered end of August and my color choice was confirmed 9/10

Same build week 50 for a 45e here … think ours is scheduled for 6 Dec build.

Finger’s crossed!

[MadameLV85]

Originally Posted by hulu

I feel so sorry for you.

It should have the touchscreen if it stayed with week49

I honestly feel like a spoiled brat throwing a micro tantrum over this, but if I'm spending 80k on a car it shouldn't have a sort of "defect" to it. This takes away from the experience of owning a BMW and can potentially effect the resale value. It's not like this issues lasted for months, which I would have been more accepting of. This was short term and impacts a small pool of people.

[mikep123]

Originally Posted by GS2019

was anyone able to confirm this or just all guesses and hopes

My X5 finished production on 11/18. Though I haven't received the car yet, I can confirm that when I enter my VIN into mdecoder.com and it shows me what's on the car, there's no reference to the touchscreen or backup assistant being deleted. I've been tracking it daily on BMW's site just waiting for it (6UY) to appear but it never did.

For what it's worth, I ordered an M50i with literally every single option. In the end, the only things deleted (sans soft close doors, wireless charging, and the other features that used to be standard) was the B&W stereo and the hitch.

The real kick in the pants is that I ordered the car back in August and it kept getting delayed because, of all things, the hitch. My salesperson told me back then that removing the hitch would cause it to go into production almost immediately, but I chose to wait on the hitch. Now, I've still lost the hitch but also the B&W stereo and delayed getting the vehicle by a couple of months.

I know it's not really important in the grand scheme of things, but I do regret waiting and losing the stereo as well. You win some and you loose some. What are you going to do? I got a good discount on the car (8% in Aug - can't get it now + BMW CCA discount + (hopefully) PenFed discount) and should do well on my trade-in so I can't really complain in this market.