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      11-23-2021, 12:52 AM   #67
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I will update this thread with latest status. (will give up when my new order arrives)

Another 40i just produced on 11-22

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Please, please, please, please, please produce mine while they have screens.........got scheduled last week, but hasn't "started" production yet.
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I wonder if there is any connection between those who ordered glass controls and those who got a touchless screen? The option to scribble on the standard idrive controller makes a difference for ease of use if you don't have a touchscreen.
there's no connection between ordering glass controls and getting a touchscreen (or not). the touch pad on top of the iDrive controller is an active feature on both standard and glass versions.
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Great news. Just order mine on Saturday. Just got notice it's started in the production process. What is the code for the touch screen?
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      11-23-2021, 11:33 AM   #71
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Great news. Just order mine on Saturday. Just got notice it's started in the production process. What is the code for the touch screen?
Supposedly the 06UY is the code for deletion of the touch screen.
Taken from another post so I'm not 100% sure.

My build (awaiting carrier) is not showing touch screen delete and does not have 06UY.
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There is no code for touchscreen, which means, it's not even something optional. Like there is no code for steering wheels

To remove the touch feature, they have to add a minus code:
06UY: deletion of touchscreen.


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Great news. Just order mine on Saturday. Just got notice it's started in the production process. What is the code for the touch screen?
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I will update this thread with latest status. (will give up when my new order arrives)

Another 40i just produced on 11-22

longDesc: "X5 xDrive40i"
makeDesc: "BMW"
modelYear: "2022"
naModelCode: "22XG"
options: "0ZAX 0ZLS 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZTM 0ZX1 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01SB 02TB 02VB 0212 0255 0258 03AC 03AT 03MB 0302 0319 0322 04AW 04FL 04HB 04KP 04NE 04T7 04T8 04UR 0402 0420 0423 0453 0456 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AS 05AV 05DN 0552 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NS 06U3 0645 0655 0676 07HW 0775 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992"
orderStatusCode: "182"
overHeadLongMessage: "A carrier has been assigned to take care of your BMW."
overHeadMessage: "Awaiting carrier assignment"
overHeadMessageSequence: "10"
prodDate: "2021-11-22"
prodNum: "6713260"
retlDate: ""
seriesCode: "X"
upholsteryCode: "MCHF"
vehicleInd: "PROD"
vin: "5UXCR6C02N9K54344"

My 40i was assembled on 11-22 and has both a hitch and touchscreen installed. It is now awaiting for carrier assignment.

Timeline:
08/28 - ordered.
08/30 - PN assigned - slated for week 40 production.
09/13 - just prior to production begins my CA called and told me the air suspension/3rd row seat option was not available and would delay my build week.
09/27 - air suspension/3rd row seat parts allocated - scheduled for for production - slated for build week 47.
11/10 - production begins.
11/22 - entering assembly line.
11/22 - in QC.
11/23 - awaiting carrier assignment.

The cars (now) coming off the production line with hitches and touchscreens are those like mine - the orders were placed before the announcement of the end of touchscreens and hitches. From what I understand, parts are located, allocated, and then the orders are scheduled for production. The parts allocated for my build stayed with my car. I believe when BMWUSA first became aware the forthcoming shortages the allocated parts for special ordered cars kept their parts and the remainder of the parts were doled out on a first come first served. Dealers have been getting touchless cars because they aren't priority 1 (customer ordered cars) and were made after the shortage started. Those who ordered a car before the parts ran out were allocated parts and if the build was pretty straight forward they got their cars in a fairly short turn around time - unlike mine that has been on order since August due to waiting for other parts.
I have been following 2 other X5s (M - sport package) with hitches that were produced on 11/16 and 11/17. Those cars arrived at the dealership on 11/22 and I have confirmed they both have touchscreens and hitches - both were custom orders - ordered before the beginning of the shortages.
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My 40i was assembled on 11-22 and has both a hitch and touchscreen installed. It is now awaiting for carrier assignment.

Timeline:
08/28 - ordered.
08/30 - PN assigned - slated for week 40 production.
09/13 - just prior to production begins my CA called and told me the air suspension/3rd row seat option was not available and would delay my build week.
09/27 - air suspension/3rd row seat parts allocated - scheduled for for production - slated for build week 47.
11/10 - production begins.
11/22 - entering assembly line.
11/22 - in QC.
11/23 - awaiting carrier assignment.

The cars (now) coming off the production line with hitches and touchscreens are those like mine - the orders were placed before the announcement of the end of touchscreens and hitches. From what I understand, parts are located, allocated, and then the orders are scheduled for production. The parts allocated for my build stayed with my car. I believe when BMWUSA first became aware the forthcoming shortages the allocated parts for special ordered cars kept their parts and the remainder of the parts were doled out on a first come first served. Dealers have been getting touchless cars because they aren't priority 1 (customer ordered cars) and were made after the shortage started. Those who ordered a car before the parts ran out were allocated parts and if the build was pretty straight forward they got their cars in a fairly short turn around time - unlike mine that has been on order since August due to waiting for other parts.
I have been following 2 other X5s (M - sport package) with hitches that were produced on 11/16 and 11/17. Those cars arrived at the dealership on 11/22 and I have confirmed they both have touchscreens and hitches - both were custom orders - ordered before the beginning of the shortages.
This is not correct, as stated in the email from BMWNA to dealers, all vehicles and all variants of the effected vehicles will be effected whether custom ordered or not. It is all timing as to whether someone got the touchscreen or not, not the vehicle configuration. As we have seen here, when the touchscreens were unavailable, everyone lost it no matter the build.

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I am one of the lucky ones to have gotten a touchscreen (currently in transit to dealer without 6UY). My order went in on 10/30, which was 4 days *after* the announcement. So I don’t think the order date has much to do with it.
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This is not correct, as stated in the email from BMWNA to dealers, all vehicles and all variants of the effected vehicles will be effected whether custom ordered or not. It is all timing as to whether someone got the touchscreen or not, not the vehicle configuration. As we have seen here, when the touchscreens were unavailable, everyone lost it no matter the build.
What is the explanation for X5s now (all of a sudden) having hitches again?
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My 40i was assembled on 11-22 and has both a hitch and touchscreen installed. It is now awaiting for carrier assignment.

I believe when BMWUSA first became aware the forthcoming shortages the allocated parts for special ordered cars kept their parts and the remainder of the parts were doled out on a first come first served. Dealers have been getting touchless cars because they aren't priority 1 (customer ordered cars) and were made after the shortage started. Those who ordered a car before the parts ran out were allocated parts and if the build was pretty straight forward they got their cars in a fairly short turn around time - unlike mine that has been on order since August due to waiting for other parts.
I have been following 2 other X5s (M - sport package) with hitches that were produced on 11/16 and 11/17. Those cars arrived at the dealership on 11/22 and I have confirmed they both have touchscreens and hitches - both were custom orders - ordered before the beginning of the shortages.

I’m in Australia and this is exactly what my rep told me as well, I placed an order in September for January 2022 build.
I spoke with him again last week as he knows I want a touch screen, and he said that customer built to order vehicles will come with it, where as dealer built vehicles are most likely not getting this options as it’s not priority.
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Current X5 already arrived at dealer with touchscreen delete. Dealer called me and ordering me a new car after I expressed my concern. My assumption is that cars arriving now are being produced with touchscreen. Hopefully this is the case! Maybe they are hoping the new orders will also have the touchscreen as current orders don’t show the touchscreen delete. I’m assuming it’s not a 100% that they are all going to have touchscreen going forward but at least worth the try.
Great customer service in my opinion!

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Current X5 already arrived at dealer with touchscreen delete. Dealer called me and ordering me a new car, they said now being produced with touchscreen.
Great customer service in my opinion!
Where are you located?

I just visited the dealer today to see my ordered touchless car, and he said again that they don't know when the touchscreen shortage is ending…. These different stories are so frustrating. If I am pretty sure I can get a touch screen if I re-order I would happily do so… I tried out Apple CarPlay using the iDrive and it is pretty clunky.
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Where are you located?

I just visited the dealer today to see my ordered touchless car, and he said again that they don't know when the touchscreen shortage is ending…. These different stories are so frustrating. If I am pretty sure I can get a touch screen if I re-order I would happily do so… I tried out Apple CarPlay using the iDrive and it is pretty clunky.
NY, I would ask to speak with the GM to verify.

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What is the explanation for X5s now (all of a sudden) having hitches again?
I’m not sure what you are asking? The hitches seem to be back. Just like any of the other options/ features in the past that have had temporary production constraints. When supply is available it returns.
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What I'm pretty sure and confirmed by my new CA is:
1. The X5s which are produced now and in last week (after 11-15) do have touchscreens
2. The future ones, nobody knows.

But if your CA told you the touchscreen has never been back, that's not true.



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Where are you located?

I just visited the dealer today to see my ordered touchless car, and he said again that they don't know when the touchscreen shortage is ending…. These different stories are so frustrating. If I am pretty sure I can get a touch screen if I re-order I would happily do so… I tried out Apple CarPlay using the iDrive and it is pretty clunky.
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I'll post this in the "sending letters to BMW NA" string as well.

I sent emails to the three executives listed in a link from a prior post. Mainly just expressed my disappointment in standard features being removed prior to any documentation being updated on BMW website, the general lack of communication about the deletes (ie finding this out via the forum), and frustration that the blip was so small and nothing is being proposed for a fix for the impacted cohort.

Well, the emails went through because I got a call from BMW Executive Office and they wanted to discuss the emails that I sent. General gist of the conversation is that it didn't really result in anything, but here were some of the talking points:

Regarding the cars being produced with touch screens now, he said that he has had the convo with individuals who decode the VINs and call in about it (ie the ones being produced now that appear to have screens) and he said that even though these cars with touchscreens are arriving at dealers AFTER cars that have already been delivered without touchscreens, they were either built or had their parts allocated PRIOR to the ones with the touchscreen delete. Not sure what to make of that.

He then said that anything ordered or produced after 10/25 will have the delete. I then mentioned the forum and how people are decoding VINs of cars currently in production or awaiting carrier assignment, to which he noted what I mentioned above. I didn't press him on it as I don't know their assembly line logistics, so I just let it be.

I asked about if they are considering future retro fits or recalls of impacted screens and what if my screen dies three years into ownership, why couldn't touchscreen be reinstated. The response seemed a bit off based on the posts here where an individual replaced his touchless screen and got it to work. The representative said that a retrofit isn't possible and referred to the screen functionality being as integrated/tied to the vehicle as the engine or transmission and that it's not something they can just "easily" fix on a massive scale.

Lastly he noted that any reorders will not guarantee a screen. He said that top brass is telling him the touchscreens are gone until year end and 2022 is still unknown.

He seemed to just be doing triage and smoothing things over with words rather than actions. I thanked him for his time and discussing what he knows about the deletes. He said to call him if I have any more questions and that was the end of convo.

I tried to fight the good fight, but I don't know what else can be done to help with the whole strength in numbers idea of voicing disappointment. I still plan on taking delivery of car in 2 weeks; just wanted to help the group. I'll have some MC Hammer queued up on Spotify when driving home 😆
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Hey @S_McTowelie - thank you for sending the email to BMWNA, and sharing what they told you.

I’ve been driving my touchless 45e for about a week now, and overall I’m thrilled with the ride! I have even disabled CarPlay for now, because I have always liked iDrive (and its apps) better anyway.

Can’t touch this! (Touchscreen) - that’s hilarious!


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I'll post this in the "sending letters to BMW NA" string as well.

I sent emails to the three executives listed in a link from a prior post. Mainly just expressed my disappointment in standard features being removed prior to any documentation being updated on BMW website, the general lack of communication about the deletes (ie finding this out via the forum), and frustration that the blip was so small and nothing is being proposed for a fix for the impacted cohort.

Well, the emails went through because I got a call from BMW Executive Office and they wanted to discuss the emails that I sent. General gist of the conversation is that it didn't really result in anything, but here were some of the talking points:

Regarding the cars being produced with touch screens now, he said that he has had the convo with individuals who decode the VINs and call in about it (ie the ones being produced now that appear to have screens) and he said that even though these cars with touchscreens are arriving at dealers AFTER cars that have already been delivered without touchscreens, they were either built or had their parts allocated PRIOR to the ones with the touchscreen delete. Not sure what to make of that.

He then said that anything ordered or produced after 10/25 will have the delete. I then mentioned the forum and how people are decoding VINs of cars currently in production or awaiting carrier assignment, to which he noted what I mentioned above. I didn't press him on it as I don't know their assembly line logistics, so I just let it be.

I asked about if they are considering future retro fits or recalls of impacted screens and what if my screen dies three years into ownership, why couldn't touchscreen be reinstated. The response seemed a bit off based on the posts here where an individual replaced his touchless screen and got it to work. The representative said that a retrofit isn't possible and referred to the screen functionality being as integrated/tied to the vehicle as the engine or transmission and that it's not something they can just "easily" fix on a massive scale.

Lastly he noted that any reorders will not guarantee a screen. He said that top brass is telling him the touchscreens are gone until year end and 2022 is still unknown.

He seemed to just be doing triage and smoothing things over with words rather than actions. I thanked him for his time and discussing what he knows about the deletes. He said to call him if I have any more questions and that was the end of convo.

I tried to fight the good fight, but I don't know what else can be done to help with the whole strength in numbers idea of voicing disappointment. I still plan on taking delivery of car in 2 weeks; just wanted to help the group. I'll have some MC Hammer queued up on Spotify when driving home 😆
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I'll post this in the "sending letters to BMW NA" string as well.

I sent emails ...\
Thanks for sending the emails, at least you tried. Unfortunately it sounds like they just had someone respond and not take it seriously. Their spokesman seemed to be reading talking points rather than really understanding the situation. As many folks on here have shown, some vehicles being produced after 10/25 (I guess all we have seen the last week or so)have had the touchscreen. I would imagine since the situation can change back to no touchscreens they don't want to say anything different.
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My 40i was assembled on 11-22 and has both a hitch and touchscreen installed. It is now awaiting for carrier assignment.

Timeline:
08/28 - ordered.
08/30 - PN assigned - slated for week 40 production.
09/13 - just prior to production begins my CA called and told me the air suspension/3rd row seat option was not available and would delay my build week.
09/27 - air suspension/3rd row seat parts allocated - scheduled for for production - slated for build week 47.
11/10 - production begins.
11/22 - entering assembly line.
11/22 - in QC.
11/23 - awaiting carrier assignment.

The cars (now) coming off the production line with hitches and touchscreens are those like mine - the orders were placed before the announcement of the end of touchscreens and hitches. From what I understand, parts are located, allocated, and then the orders are scheduled for production. The parts allocated for my build stayed with my car. I believe when BMWUSA first became aware the forthcoming shortages the allocated parts for special ordered cars kept their parts and the remainder of the parts were doled out on a first come first served. Dealers have been getting touchless cars because they aren't priority 1 (customer ordered cars) and were made after the shortage started. Those who ordered a car before the parts ran out were allocated parts and if the build was pretty straight forward they got their cars in a fairly short turn around time - unlike mine that has been on order since August due to waiting for other parts.
I have been following 2 other X5s (M - sport package) with hitches that were produced on 11/16 and 11/17. Those cars arrived at the dealership on 11/22 and I have confirmed they both have touchscreens and hitches - both were custom orders - ordered before the beginning of the shortages.
This is not correct, as stated in the email from BMWNA to dealers, all vehicles and all variants of the effected vehicles will be effected whether custom ordered or not. It is all timing as to whether someone got the touchscreen or not, not the vehicle configuration. As we have seen here, when the touchscreens were unavailable, everyone lost it no matter the build.
Marz57 is right that's why he has a hitch. The vehicle production date was pushed out. Touch is not back
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Marz57 is right that's why he has a hitch. The vehicle production date was pushed out. Touch is not back
I think maybe you are misreading and/or misunderstanding something. We are discussing the touchscreen which when it wasn't available affected all vehicles that were being built no matter when they were ordered or how they were configured. In addition to that being stated by BMWNA it is what we saw from both our members and what arrived on dealer lots.

Not sure why you are saying the touch isn't back, it obviously is and I think you even said so on a thread or two. It likely may be temporary but right now all G05s being built have the touchscreens from the data we have seen from our members as well as checks of the VINS being produced.
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Marz57 is right that's why he has a hitch. The vehicle production date was pushed out. Touch is not back
I think maybe you are misreading and/or misunderstanding something. We are discussing the touchscreen which when it wasn't available affected all vehicles that were being built no matter when they were ordered or how they were configured. In addition to that being stated by BMWNA it is what we saw from both our members and what arrived on dealer lots.

Not sure why you are saying the touch isn't back, it obviously is and I think you even said so on a thread or two. It likely may be temporary but right now all G05s being built have the touchscreens from the data we have seen from our members as well as checks of the VINS being produced.
What everyone is seeing are the week 44 and other earlier week builds that were pushed to week 47 or later that already had touch, hitch, etc. reserved. My point was if the fellow's X5 was a recent order w/touch they wouldn't have had a hitch.

In a few more production weeks we will see touch and non-touch being built.
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