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So my 2019 X5 XDrive40i has been giving me problems for the past couple of months, First there was a clicking sound coming from the front left wheel and when I turned it in to my local BMW dealership, they said that there was a big issue with the axle and arm so they had to order new parts for it from Germany which took over 2 weeks to arrive. With all the down time and repairs, the car was in the shop with them for a month. Afterwards, I got my car back but about a week later the clicking started again. This time I got a call from BMW NA that they are "reviewing the matter" and escalating it to a higher source for a way to resolve it. I finally got a letter from BMW NA today that they "deemed the vehicle Irreparable" and that they will repurchase it back from me at the original cost that I paid for it.

I am super bummed as I truly enjoyed my new X5 but it also has given me a chance to know that maybe the 40i even at fully optioned wasn't exactly what I wanted with the silent exhaust note and all.
I'm considering getting a fully loaded 2019 XDrive50i M-Sport package instead but at this point should I wait for the soon to be released 2020 X5 M50i? Any spec bumps with the "M"? Or maybe even consider the 2020 X3 Competition Package? Any suggestions?
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So my 2019 X5 XDrive40i has been giving me problems for the past couple of months, First there was a clicking sound coming from the front left wheel and when I turned it in to my local BMW dealership, they said that there was a big issue with the axle and arm so they had to order new parts for it from Germany which took over 2 weeks to arrive. With all the down time and repairs, the car was in the shop with them for a month. Afterwards, I got my car back but about a week later the clicking started again. This time I got a call from BMW NA that they are "reviewing the matter" and escalating it to a higher source for a way to resolve it. I finally got a letter from BMW NA today that they "deemed the vehicle Irreparable" and that they will repurchase it back from me at the original cost that I paid for it.

I am super bummed as I truly enjoyed my new X5 but it also has given me a chance to know that maybe the 40i even at fully optioned wasn't exactly what I wanted with the silent exhaust note and all.
I'm considering getting a fully loaded 2019 XDrive50i M-Sport package instead but at this point should I wait for the soon to be released 2020 X5 M50i? Any spec bumps with the "M"? Or maybe even consider the 2020 X3 Competition Package? Any suggestions?
Your dealer advised BMW NA the problem is irreparable? Or you contacted them directly?
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the X5 50i is an amazing SUV and nowhere close to the same as a 40i. when you open up the throttle or take a corner the difference is immediate. The only big difference we will see in the M50i (2020) will be more power which honestly isn't needed and it's hard me to say a car doesn't need more power. Mystro, if he sees this will likely agree judging by his previous posts The 50i is about as close to perfect for what I wanted as an SUV can be. There's a delicate balance between luxury and power which it nails without missing a beat. If you lived by me I'd let you take mine for a spin
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Your dealer advised BMW NA the problem is irreparable? Or you contacted them directly?
My dealer had me contact BMW NA for "credit" on my lease payments for the period that my car was being repaired. I called BMW NA and they basically told me that they will follow up with me and see what is going on with the car. BMW NA next point of communication was a formal letter of repurchase.
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the X5 50i is an amazing SUV and nowhere close to the same as a 40i. when you open up the throttle or take a corner the difference is immediate. The only big difference we will see in the M50i (2020) will be more power which honestly isn't needed and it's hard me to say a car doesn't need more power. Mystro, if he sees this will likely agree judging by his previous posts The 50i is about as close to perfect for what I wanted as an SUV can be. There's a delicate balance between luxury and power which it nails without missing a beat. If you lived by me I'd let you take mine for a spin
That is exactly what is crossing my mind right now. How much more power does it really need? lol
I'm playing with a few build options online to get myself a little more excited about it. I do however miss that deep burble from a V8 that used to put a smile on my face when I had my X6 50i. :-)
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I'd say you got good news from BMWNA. Most folks have to "fight" to get a repurchase. I know because I've done it twice. You are fortunate that BMWNA is stepping up and offering to repurchase. Do you have to pay a mileage fee? I did have to pay this on both of my repurchases but it was still a very fair deal. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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M50i, if it truly is released this fall (some rumors say it is a year off still, but I am hoping not) will have 530 HP. To me that’s worth waiting for. You can lookup pictures or the UK configurator for the M50d to see the exterior extra bits that will get added to make it stand apart.
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I'd say you got good news from BMWNA. Most folks have to "fight" to get a repurchase. I know because I've done it twice. You are fortunate that BMWNA is stepping up and offering to repurchase. Do you have to pay a mileage fee? I did have to pay this on both of my repurchases but it was still a very fair deal. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I do agree that I am more lucky than others, but something tells me there is a real big "issue" with the car that they wanted to quickly patch and repurchase.
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M50i, if it truly is released this fall (some rumors say it is a year off still, but I am hoping not) will have 530 HP. To me that’s worth waiting for. You can lookup pictures or the UK configurator for the M50d to see the exterior extra bits that will get added to make it stand apart.
That does sound like a beast of a SUV. Might be worth waiting a bit more for it :-)
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That does sound like a beast of a SUV. Might be worth waiting a bit more for it :-)
Since you currently have BMWNA on the ropes, see if you can get a confirmation that the M50i is coming this year!
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Since you currently have BMWNA on the ropes, see if you can get a confirmation that the M50i is coming this year!
Haha, time to get them with some trade secrets! I'll ask my account executive and see what she knows.
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The current X5 50i M-Sport is a performance/muscle suv. It has gratuitous amounts of power and more importantly “torque”. There will always be more hp down the line but I can tell you now even for spirited driving, you won’t use 50% of what the 50i has. This coming from a guy that has owned 911’s for three decades. My current is a C4S and I wouldn’t want to drag race my 50i M-Sport at a light.. The 50i is fast suv by anyone’s standard. It would be considered a fast German sport sedan, for that matter.
What was important for me is a luxury ride for long trips and the next X5M will be too rough and the tires won’t work for mixed weather. I am not interested in anything geared to a more harder core in a suv. I can scare the crap out of just about any passenger in the 50i in
“Sport Plus” mode on my twisty mountain roads.
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The current X5 50i M-Sport is a performance/muscle suv. It has gratuitous amounts of power and more importantly “torque”. There will always be more hp down the line but I can tell you now even for spirited driving, you won’t use 50% of what the 50i has. This coming from a guy that has owned 911’s for three decades. My current is a C4S and I wouldn’t want to drag race my 50i M-Sport at a light.. The 50i is fast suv by anyone’s standard. It would be considered a fast German sport sedan, for that matter.
What was important for me is a luxury ride for long trips and the next X5M will be too rough and the tires won’t work for mixed weather. I am not interested in anything geared to a more harder core in a suv. I can scare the crap out of just about any passenger in the 50i in
“Sport Plus” mode on my twisty mountain roads.
My local dealer has a full option XDrive50i M-Sport edition here in SoCal. You got me excited about testing it out. It does make more sense since it will be a daily family car and occasional speedster.

I soon will be in the market for a 992 4S towards the end of the year. :-) Newport Beach Porsche had a beautiful yellow one in stock that I just couldn't take my eyes off.
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I am in the minority here. Had the 50i which had issues and switched to the 40i. The following is personal preference only - everyone likes something different.

For me the 50i drove a bit heavier (which it obvious is) and I really enjoy winding the 40i up. I didn't notice hardly any difference in driving expect a nice bump in gas mileage. Note I did not like the loud growl of the 50i M Sport. I just find the 40i to be very quick and very nimble and quieter with the M Sport.

Again, not trying to start a battle, just my opinion after having both.
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I am in the minority here. Had the 50i which had issues and switched to the 40i. The following is personal preference only - everyone likes something different.

For me the 50i drove a bit heavier (which it obvious is) and I really enjoy winding the 40i up. I didn't notice hardly any difference in driving expect a nice bump in gas mileage. Note I did not like the loud growl of the 50i M Sport. I just find the 40i to be very quick and very nimble and quieter with the M Sport.

Again, not trying to start a battle, just my opinion after having both.
Appreciate your perspective, it should always be about what we as individuals want in our cars. I had a 40i loaner for a couple weeks when my production was delayed. It was fairly basic with almost no additional options and even with that was a great vehicle. I was impressed with the 6-cylinder despite my preference for the 8. For my myself I would definitely always take the 50i over the 40i as it just feels like a completely different experience, but understand the affinity for the 40i.
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Appreciate your perspective, it should always be about what we as individuals want in our cars. I had a 40i loaner for a couple weeks when my production was delayed. It was fairly basic with almost no additional options and even with that was a great vehicle. I was impressed with the 6-cylinder despite my preference for the 8. For my myself I would definitely always take the 50i over the 40i as it just feels like a completely different experience, but understand the affinity for the 40i.
I am not sure the mnx5er was talking about testing the newer G05 50i and 40i?? That is huge factor in the take away. The power delivery between the two are extremely different. The G05 40i felt faster than the Grand Cherokee with the Hemi. That would have been plenty of power. The 50i is over-the-top and in a different zip code of power. The 50i can get you in trouble and can be frustrating if you can’t control yourself with the speeding. Its more of a matter of “when” you are gonna get a ticket rather than “if”. It’s the effortless jump from 65mph to 100mph+ in seconds that is gonna get you.

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Appreciate your perspective, it should always be about what we as individuals want in our cars. I had a 40i loaner for a couple weeks when my production was delayed. It was fairly basic with almost no additional options and even with that was a great vehicle. I was impressed with the 6-cylinder despite my preference for the 8. For my myself I would definitely always take the 50i over the 40i as it just feels like a completely different experience, but understand the affinity for the 40i.
I am not sure the mnx5er was talking about testing the newer G05 50i and 40i?? That is huge factor in the take away. The power delivery between the two are extremely different. The G05 40i felt faster than the Grand Cherokee with the Hemi. That would have been plenty of power. The 50i is over-the-top and in a different zip code of power. The 50i can get you in trouble and can be frustrating if you can't control yourself with the speeding. Its more of a matter of "when" you are gonna get a ticket rather than "if". It's the effortless jump from 65mph to 100mph+ in seconds that is gonna get you.
I agree, here's a clip I recorded the other day (ignore my giant emergency call malfunction message that is getting fixed next week)
the wide any lense on my phone causes some distortion
52-105mph in sport+ nearly full throttle but I didn't fully kick down

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I agree, here's a clip I recorded the other day (ignore my giant emergency call malfunction message that is getting fixed next week)
the wide any lense on my phone causes some distortion
52-105mph in sport+ nearly full throttle but I didn't fully kick down
That upshift though..beautiful.

Cannot comprehend how much of a beast the M50i will be without impeding into X5M territory.
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I agree, here's a clip I recorded the other day (ignore my giant emergency call malfunction message that is getting fixed next week)
the wide any lense on my phone causes some distortion
52-105mph in sport+ nearly full throttle but I didn't fully kick down
That upshift though..beautiful.

Cannot comprehend how much of a beast the M50i will be without impeding into X5M territory.
I love my 50i and you can see it ventures into redline natively so those shifts sound even better
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Wait for the 2020 M50i. Why not if you can? Being the 2nd model year
we all know refinements will be made & bugs worked out.
But to jump to 523hp & 553 Lb torque is a big time improvement.
Anyone saying you don 't need the extra power is sour grapes.

Who here would not want a X5M?

If you can wait until the fall you should - I can & I am.
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Who here would not want a X5M?

If you can wait until the fall you should - I can & I am.
I personally don’t. Too hard core for a long trip car with family and it’s tires won’t work in mixed weather. If I needed to consolidate performance cars to a one-and-only then yes (maybe). I have always had a vehicle for every purpose in my fleet. The northeast is brutal and too many weather issues.

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Wait for the 2020 M50i. Why not if you can? Being the 2nd model year
we all know refinements will be made & bugs worked out.
But to jump to 523hp & 553 Lb torque is a big time improvement.
Anyone saying you don 't need the extra power is sour grapes.

Who here would not want a X5M?

If you can wait until the fall you should - I can & I am.
I'm not sour and I'd like an X5M or M5 but purposely didn't get either because roads here suck for firm suspensions which isn't helped by some injuries I've had in the past. What I'm saying is the 50i is perfect as is, more power wouldn't hurt if they don't make it ride firmer
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