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      12-19-2018, 07:22 PM   #353
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more of location based but 2.9 is going on with lock period of 60 days.
this is through BMW financial?
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      12-19-2018, 09:12 PM   #354
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this is through BMW financial?
Yep: https://www.bmwusa.com/special-offer...hicle=seriesX5
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      12-19-2018, 09:38 PM   #355
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My first post and first BMW. Just paid deposit for build. Thanks guys i learned a lot from this forum to land a great deal.

MSRP : 59,201.00
Discount : 5324.00
Rebate : 2000.00

Net : 61,876.00
2018 model?
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      12-20-2018, 08:36 AM   #356
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My first post and first BMW. Just paid deposit for build. Thanks guys i learned a lot from this forum to land a great deal.

MSRP : 59,201.00
Discount : 5324.00
Rebate : 2000.00

Net : 61,876.00
Something is off there in the math but the discount is great!
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      12-20-2018, 09:28 AM   #357
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My first post and first BMW. Just paid deposit for build. Thanks guys i learned a lot from this forum to land a great deal.

MSRP : 59,201.00
Discount : 5324.00
Rebate : 2000.00

Net : 61,876.00
MSRP is likely 69,201 and not 59,201.
Even then, it would be a 7.7% discount, before the rebate.
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      12-20-2018, 09:30 AM   #358
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Hi - new member and I just read through this full thread, which is very helpful. I do have a couple questions.

1) Does anyone have a suggestion on how to receive Costco pricing sheet when I already have a SA contact? When buying another vehicle last year (at a different manufacturer) it created a lot of confusion when I was working with the internet sales team (Costco) and a regular SA.

2) On my local dealer's website, they list MSRP, a 'dealer discount' of $2,500 on X5s and then the $2,000 BMW APR discount. I assume that the 'dealer discount' would be part of the 6% targeted discount that I am looking to achieve?

thanks for any assistance!
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      12-20-2018, 10:10 AM   #359
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2) On my local dealer's website, they list MSRP, a 'dealer discount' of $2,500 on X5s and then the $2,000 BMW APR discount. I assume that the 'dealer discount' would be part of the 6% targeted discount that I am looking to achieve?
The $2500 is what they are offering on their own, prior to any negotiation. This would be the part of 6% discount ($4200 on a $70K MSRP for example).

The $2000 BMW APR discount has nothing to do with the dealer, that is from BMW Financial services for financing some of the amount.

Hope that helps.
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      12-20-2018, 02:37 PM   #360
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So here's what I have managed to negotiate:

$75,050 MSRP
8% off before incentives
BUT since the car is out of state I have to pay to get it here which is $800.

I know the transportation of that vehicle is eating at my 8% and I am not a math guy so can someone tell me what the percentage off would be when I eat that cost?

The manager tried to tell me 3% is the best he can do. I told him I am walking and they came back with this.

Honestly getting cold feet though. Not sure I really want to spend this much money on a X5 40i. I want the best deal possible and I dont think this is it.
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      12-20-2018, 03:33 PM   #361
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So here's what I have managed to negotiate:

$75,050 MSRP
8% off before incentives
BUT since the car is out of state I have to pay to get it here which is $800.

I know the transportation of that vehicle is eating at my 8% and I am not a math guy so can someone tell me what the percentage off would be when I eat that cost?
$800 is 1.06% of MSRP, so you are still getting a great deal with almost 7% off MSRP.
That's still better than recommended 6% discount on the board!
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      12-20-2018, 03:49 PM   #362
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$800 is 1.06% of MSRP, so you are still getting a great deal with almost 7% off MSRP.
That's still better than recommended 6% discount on the board!
Thank you for doing the math. Here's my struggle: Someone help me with this - I paid this much, a little more, for my M4 when it first came out. I can't fathom spending this much on a non-sports car that is a regular SUV and not at the level of a Range Rover Sport or Cayenne S. Am I just thinking about this wrong? It's for my wife and not me but still.
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      12-20-2018, 04:16 PM   #363
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Thank you for doing the math. Here's my struggle: Someone help me with this - I paid this much, a little more, for my M4 when it first came out. I can't fathom spending this much on a non-sports car that is a regular SUV and not at the level of a Range Rover Sport or Cayenne S. Am I just thinking about this wrong? It's for my wife and not me but still.
MSRP 75K suggests a fairly loaded X5, likely an MSport.

RRS and Cayenne S would be much higher in price!

This might help,
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      12-21-2018, 06:20 AM   #364
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MSRP 75K suggests a fairly loaded X5, likely an MSport.

RRS and Cayenne S would be much higher in price!

This might help,
Yeah it's pretty loaded so you're right on that. I also agree that RRS and a Cayenne S would be insanely higher in price with similar or same options.
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      12-21-2018, 10:09 AM   #365
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My first post and first BMW. Just paid deposit for build. Thanks guys i learned a lot from this forum to land a great deal.

MSRP : 59,201.00
Discount : 5324.00
Rebate : 2000.00

Net : 61,876.00
MSRP is likely 69,201 and not 59,201.
Even then, it would be a 7.7% discount, before the rebate.
Yes typo msrp is 69201.

It's for 2019 X5
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      12-21-2018, 10:10 AM   #366
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My first post and first BMW. Just paid deposit for build. Thanks guys i learned a lot from this forum to land a great deal.

MSRP : 59,201.00
Discount : 5324.00
Rebate : 2000.00

Net : 61,876.00
2018 model?
2019 X5
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      12-21-2018, 02:17 PM   #367
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Yes typo msrp is 69201.

It's for 2019 X5
For a newbie who cannot type, you sure got a great deal!!
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      12-22-2018, 06:44 AM   #368
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In order to compare apples to apples when it comes to what you can negotiate off the price of a new X5 I think we need to be sure we are using the same numbers.

For example, my X5 had credits built in ($1,450 leather upholstery and $190 gesture control) to the price to which I was then able to apply my 6% off of the MSRP. I was then able to get the $3,000 credit for financing and loyalty credit and then $1,000 BMWCCA. I raise this because the same car on the dealer lot today no longer has the leather and gesture control credits. In order to get the same net price for my car I could either take 6% off the MSRP when I bought it (a little over a week ago) or today I would need almost 8% off MSRP for the same car to get the same net price. I raise this issue because some folks may get discouraged when they are only able to get 5% or 6% off the MSRP when others are getting 8% off. Is it a true comparison? Beyond the financing, BMW loyalty, etc. credits I think you need to look at your dealers credits built into the MSRP first. Just my 2 cents.

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      12-23-2018, 07:40 PM   #369
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In order to compare apples to apples when it comes to what you can negotiate off the price of a new X5 I think we need to be sure we are using the same numbers.

For example, my X5 had credits built in ($1,450 leather upholstery and $190 gesture control) to the price to which I was then able to apply my 6% off of the MSRP. I was then able to get the $3,000 credit for financing and loyalty credit and then $1,000 BMWCCA. I raise this because the same car on the dealer lot today no longer has the leather and gesture control credits. In order to get the same net price for my car I could either take 6% off the MSRP when I bought it (a little over a week ago) or today I would need almost 8% off MSRP for the same car to get the same net price. I raise this issue because some folks may get discouraged when they are only able to get 5% or 6% off the MSRP when others are getting 8% off. Is it a true comparison? Beyond the financing, BMW loyalty, etc. credits I think you need to look at your dealers credits built into the MSRP first. Just my 2 cents.

What he said, plus rebates do change month to month.
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      12-24-2018, 02:25 PM   #370
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In order to compare apples to apples when it comes to what you can negotiate off the price of a new X5 I think we need to be sure we are using the same numbers.

For example, my X5 had credits built in ($1,450 leather upholstery and $190 gesture control) to the price to which I was then able to apply my 6% off of the MSRP. I was then able to get the $3,000 credit for financing and loyalty credit and then $1,000 BMWCCA. I raise this because the same car on the dealer lot today no longer has the leather and gesture control credits. In order to get the same net price for my car I could either take 6% off the MSRP when I bought it (a little over a week ago) or today I would need almost 8% off MSRP for the same car to get the same net price. I raise this issue because some folks may get discouraged when they are only able to get 5% or 6% off the MSRP when others are getting 8% off. Is it a true comparison? Beyond the financing, BMW loyalty, etc. credits I think you need to look at your dealers credits built into the MSRP first. Just my 2 cents.
My dealer initially told me that there is a credit for the leather dash ($1200) when we went to order ours. But he then came back and told that BMW discontinued that credit and we were late by one day. We went on Dec 1st and that credit ended in Nov. We were very disappointed. The dealer offered us a $1000 cash back on top of the 6% we already negotiated for this. Good enough but still we would have preferred the credit. I still have the $1,000 BMWCCA and the 2K credit for financing on top.
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      12-25-2018, 08:24 AM   #371
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Passed on the deal and went with a Cayenne instead. The X5 is incredible and it was a tough decision.. ended up spending 10k more so I hope it's worth it!

With that said I will always be a BMW guy. I plan on keeping my M4 forever. If anyone needs a Porsche dealer and salesman whose not pushy and can offer a great deal PM me and I'll pass along the info!
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      12-26-2018, 11:42 AM   #372
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Make a spreadsheet sometimes helps, but take MSPR off the website, then calculate the price with a discount of where you want to start, say 7.5% (the 995 destination is not discountable so only discount the care not the destination). Then on top of that list the current incentives as a further reduction $1000 say for loyalty or APR credits.

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You should also put all those numbers once you figure out what you want to pay in here https://www.calculator.net/auto-lease-calculator.html and this will tell you what your lease or loan payment will be based on those numbers (for the lease 10k miles residual is 59% of MSRP, 12k miles is 58% and 15k miles is 56% - this is off MSPR not what you are actually going to offer for the car - so if car is 100k, the price will be 93k with discount but residual will be 59k (59% of 100k). This will make sure that when they give you the payments you should be without 20 or 30 bucks, if it is 100 or 200 out, then they are playing games and marking something up somewhere.
Hi,

I have some questions, using an MSRP of $100k + $995 destination:

7.5% discount off $100k = $92,500

For the RV do I calculate 59% of $100k or 59% of $100k + $995?

Using the calculator from link provided, in the 'Auto Price' field do I input $92,500 or $93,495? I assume it's the latter but just want to confirm.

Thanks in advance!
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Hi,

I have some questions, using an MSRP of $100k + $995 destination:

7.5% discount off $100k = $92,500

For the RV do I calculate 59% of $100k or 59% of $100k + $995?

Using the calculator from link provided, in the 'Auto Price' field do I input $92,500 or $93,495? I assume it's the latter but just want to confirm.

Thanks in advance!
RV is always from MSRP so it should be 59% of $100,995.

Based on my Lease quote, Auto price field should be $93,495 as destination charges are also capitalized.
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RV is always from MSRP so it should be 59% of $100,995.

Based on my Lease quote, Auto price field should be $93,495 as destination charges are also capitalized.
Thank you very much!
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