BMW X5
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-03-2021, 11:52 PM   #1
Grumpy311
Private First Class
38
Rep
156
Posts

Drives: X5, 328i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (0)

2-axle air suspension just disappeared off my build.

Ordered an xDr 4.0 2/19. First my HK disappeared. Now the 2-axle air suspension magically disappeared off the build as well. I wish BMW was a little bit more proactive with informing the buying public about supply chain challenges. This stuff won't fly with me. Canceling tomorrow. Who knows what's next.
Appreciate 1
      03-04-2021, 02:28 AM   #2
GlennC
Private First Class
GlennC's Avatar
United_States
321
Rep
195
Posts

Drives: '21 GLE 63S
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Long Island

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumpy311 View Post
Ordered an xDr 4.0 2/19. First my HK disappeared. Now the 2-axle air suspension magically disappeared off the build as well. I wish BMW was a little bit more proactive with informing the buying public about supply chain challenges. This stuff won't fly with me. Canceling tomorrow. Who knows what's next.
My sales advisor called me yesterday to inform me of the same thing on my X5 x40i M Sport. He said BMW "ran out of the 2 axle air suspension"...Unbelievable. I told him to place the order without it. Not a deal breaker for me but I can understand why you cancelled. I'm thinking maybe less maintenance down the road.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 05:57 AM   #3
Drothgeb
Private
65
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: M3, M40i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Monrovia, MD

iTrader: (0)

I wonder if the 45e still comes with it?
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 06:30 AM   #4
Auricom
Brigadier General
Auricom's Avatar
United_States
4360
Rep
4,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 X5 xDrive40i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: DMV

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drothgeb View Post
I wonder if the 45e still comes with it?
45e are designed with and require air suspension, whereas X5 40i and M50i do not. X7s are also designed with and require air suspension system.
__________________
Current BMWs - '20 X5 xDrive40i M Sport, '20 BMW M550i | Past BMWs - '03 E39 540iT M Sport, '06 E53 4.8is, '11 E70 M Sport LCI

Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 06:52 AM   #5
Grumpy311
Private First Class
38
Rep
156
Posts

Drives: X5, 328i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennC View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumpy311 View Post
Ordered an xDr 4.0 2/19. First my HK disappeared. Now the 2-axle air suspension magically disappeared off the build as well. I wish BMW was a little bit more proactive with informing the buying public about supply chain challenges. This stuff won't fly with me. Canceling tomorrow. Who knows what's next.
My sales advisor called me yesterday to inform me of the same thing on my X5 x40i M Sport. He said BMW "ran out of the 2 axle air suspension"...Unbelievable. I told him to place the order without it. Not a deal breaker for me but I can understand why you cancelled. I'm thinking maybe less maintenance down the road.
At least your dealer is on the ball. Mine hasn't rven informed me of the HK, pretty sure the AS will be a big surprise to them as well.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 07:10 AM   #6
BRB-Prsch928S
Private
BRB-Prsch928S's Avatar
118
Rep
96
Posts

Drives: 2021 X5 xDrive40i M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Woburn MA

iTrader: (0)

I wonder what that means for someone (me) who has an order in with 3rd row seating, which requires the 2 axle air suspension. Order received by factory, but not yet in production...
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 07:10 AM   #7
Drothgeb
Private
65
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: M3, M40i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Monrovia, MD

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auricom View Post
45e are designed with and require air suspension, whereas X5 40i and M50i do not. X7s are also designed with and require air suspension system.
So technically, they are not out of the air suspension. They are just reserving the remainder for other models. Sounds like the Harman Kardon. Still available in some X5s, but not others.

We put our order on hold hoping the HK or alternate would eventually be available. Definite no go without the air suspension, as we were going to use it to tow heavy (6000lbs) occasionally.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 07:18 AM   #8
BRB-Prsch928S
Private
BRB-Prsch928S's Avatar
118
Rep
96
Posts

Drives: 2021 X5 xDrive40i M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Woburn MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRB-Prsch928S View Post
I wonder what that means for someone (me) who has an order in with 3rd row seating, which requires the 2 axle air suspension. Order received by factory, but not yet in production...
Dammit - just checked my build, and 3rd row seating is GONE from my option list. Wow.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 07:30 AM   #9
Auricom
Brigadier General
Auricom's Avatar
United_States
4360
Rep
4,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 X5 xDrive40i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: DMV

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drothgeb View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auricom View Post
45e are designed with and require air suspension, whereas X5 40i and M50i do not. X7s are also designed with and require air suspension system.
So technically, they are not out of the air suspension. They are just reserving the remainder for other models. Sounds like the Harman Kardon. Still available in some X5s, but not others.

We put our order on hold hoping the HK or alternate would eventually be available. Definite no go without the air suspension, as we were going to use it to tow heavy (6000lbs) occasionally.
That's correct, they wouldn't be able to build and deliver 45e orders without air suspension
__________________
Current BMWs - '20 X5 xDrive40i M Sport, '20 BMW M550i | Past BMWs - '03 E39 540iT M Sport, '06 E53 4.8is, '11 E70 M Sport LCI

Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 07:41 AM   #10
jaynesj13
New Member
10
Rep
23
Posts

Drives: BMW X5; Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRB-Prsch928S View Post
I wonder what that means for someone (me) who has an order in with 3rd row seating, which requires the 2 axle air suspension. Order received by factory, but not yet in production...
So my order is still in 112 status, scheduled for production week of March 15 and still has the 3rd-row and air suspension. I'll update if that changes.

EDIT: Spoke to genius, scheduled for complete week 12, or by March 22nd. Guy said I should have the air suspension.

Last edited by jaynesj13; 03-04-2021 at 09:08 AM.. Reason: Update
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 09:42 AM   #11
TREKER
Private First Class
TREKER's Avatar
65
Rep
133
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW X5 X40i M Sport
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Just lost air suspension and HK off my build today. I just left message at my dealer. This is not acceptable.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 09:54 AM   #12
jcottonfieldx5
Enlisted Member
jcottonfieldx5's Avatar
27
Rep
45
Posts

Drives: '21 X5 xDrive40i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TREKER View Post
Just lost air suspension and HK off my build today. I just left message at my dealer. This is not acceptable.
Same here. On originally but now gone.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 11:50 AM   #13
nZtiZia
Major General
nZtiZia's Avatar
United_States
4630
Rep
8,656
Posts

Drives: eVeRyOnE mAD!
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: neither here nor there...

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auricom View Post
That's correct, they wouldn't be able to build and deliver 45e orders without air suspension
colonel, not related to air suspension per se, but do you have a definitive answer as to why 22" wheels aren't offered for the 45e or other variants when adding 3rd row seating? I postulate the max carrying capacity is too close to the tire load rating/index for 22" (being lower than 20/21" options) especially above the rear axle.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 12:27 PM   #14
LIX5
New Member
0
Rep
9
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW x5
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

I have HK but my air suspension disappeared. I did notice that under M sport package it says "Adaptive M Suspension." I'm not sure if this has always been there or if this might be a replacement for the air suspension.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 12:31 PM   #15
jaynesj13
New Member
10
Rep
23
Posts

Drives: BMW X5; Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LIX5 View Post
I have HK but my air suspension disappeared. I did notice that under M sport package it says "Adaptive M Suspension." I'm not sure if this has always been there or if this might be a replacement for the air suspension.
That's the suspension that comes with the M Sport Package, so once Air Suspension dropped, that came back.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 12:33 PM   #16
LIX5
New Member
0
Rep
9
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW x5
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaynesj13 View Post
That's the suspension that comes with the M Sport Package, so once Air Suspension dropped, that came back.
Got it ... Thanks! I'm assuming its similar in that you can manually adjust the height of the car and now the difference is just a little comfort on the ride??
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 12:38 PM   #17
jaynesj13
New Member
10
Rep
23
Posts

Drives: BMW X5; Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LIX5 View Post
Got it ... Thanks! I'm assuming its similar in that you can manually adjust the height of the car and now the difference is just a little comfort on the ride??
No height adjustment with adaptive M suspension.
Appreciate 0
      03-04-2021, 05:32 PM   #18
Auricom
Brigadier General
Auricom's Avatar
United_States
4360
Rep
4,246
Posts

Drives: 2020 X5 xDrive40i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: DMV

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nZtiZia View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auricom View Post
That's correct, they wouldn't be able to build and deliver 45e orders without air suspension
colonel, not related to air suspension per se, but do you have a definitive answer as to why 22" wheels aren't offered for the 45e or other variants when adding 3rd row seating? I postulate the max carrying capacity is too close to the tire load rating/index for 22" (being lower than 20/21" options) especially above the rear axle.
TBH I don't have a definitive answer or can point to a technical doc as to the reason why.

The battery is right over the rear axle to keep things balanced which necessitated the use of 2-axle air suspension. While everyone thinks of air suspension is designed to provide a comfortable ride, it does that but specifically to maintain a constant ride height (self-leveling) while driving.

As far as 3rd row and why no 22", it's because BMW includes spare tire when optioning 22" and 3rd row takes up the all the spare tire space. Though I think it was a possibility for international markets, eg Belgium, but I never followed up on it.

There was a mention of max load on the rear wheels with the low height tires being an issue as you mentioned - 3rd row, 22", towing.
__________________
Current BMWs - '20 X5 xDrive40i M Sport, '20 BMW M550i | Past BMWs - '03 E39 540iT M Sport, '06 E53 4.8is, '11 E70 M Sport LCI

Appreciate 1
nZtiZia4629.50
      03-15-2021, 03:06 AM   #19
ukk
Private
61
Rep
81
Posts

Drives: 2023 X5 xDrive40i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: WA

iTrader: (0)

+1

I have the "Harmon Kardon surround sound" under the "PREMIUM PACKAGE" section in my build, but the ordered "3rd row seating + air suspension" is not present in the "ADDED OPTIONS" section .

I too see "Adaptive M Suspension" under the "M SPORT PACKAGE" section instead of the original "2 axle air suspension".
Appreciate 0
      03-24-2021, 05:53 AM   #20
Drothgeb
Private
65
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: M3, M40i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Monrovia, MD

iTrader: (0)

Anybody heard anything about the air suspension coming back? My order is still on hold waiting for it.
Appreciate 0
      03-24-2021, 06:25 AM   #21
330dMSXD
First Lieutenant
103
Rep
393
Posts

Drives: 2022 X3 M40d LCI
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

In The UK Air Suspension has been removed from all but those vehicles specifying Third Row Seating and the X5 45E variant.

BMW UK has confirmed that the aforementioned changes are a temporary measure from Wk14 to Wk27 production but may be extended.

BMW are blaming 'Worldwide Capacity Restrictions' but I would hazard a guess that due to the worldwide and ever growing waiting list for the lucrative 45E variant which is currently 7 months in the UK, BMW are prioritising this model.
Appreciate 0
      03-25-2021, 04:50 PM   #22
ukk
Private
61
Rep
81
Posts

Drives: 2023 X5 xDrive40i
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: WA

iTrader: (0)

I had cancelled my order as the "3rd row seating + air suspension" option was pulled from my placed (sold) order. It is surprising and frustrating that BMW would choose not to honor a placed order for its customer; even though they apparently do have the capability to include the option since it is still being offered in countries other than the US (even though X5 is manufactured in the US)...
Appreciate 1
Ilyam5890.00
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:34 PM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST