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      05-16-2023, 10:33 AM   #1
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50e shuts down when opening the driver door

Is there a way to change this? It's kind of annoying that the car shuts off when you open the door. So, you are leaving your house, forgot something, opened the door and boom no more AC, the car is loaded with all your family and it's 90 degrees outside. Any solution besides pressing pre-conditioning button on the app?
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      05-16-2023, 11:35 AM   #2
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Same design logic as in 45e, no way to disable this. not sure why bmw chose this way. The easiest work around for me is to bucket driver seat belt behind, then open door.
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Yes, happens in the 45e as well. Incredibly annoying.

I'm also having trouble shutting the vehicle down unless I lock. The thing will just keep humming with the lights on even when I've turned "off" the engine and have exited the vehicle.
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can you just press the start button again while exiting the car?

I need to try on mine
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      05-16-2023, 12:22 PM   #5
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Yes, happens in the 45e as well. Incredibly annoying.

I'm also having trouble shutting the vehicle down unless I lock. The thing will just keep humming with the lights on even when I've turned "off" the engine and have exited the vehicle.
This part is kind of random for. Sometime, everything shut off when I press start/stop, light is off, music is off, AC is off. Sometime, everything remain on, but they eventually turn off after say 10min or so. I don't remember the car ever stay on for, say over night..
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1. Apps menu
2. "Vehicle apps"
3. "Doors and windows"
4. "Lock/unlock"
5. Untick "Turn off after opening door"
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      05-16-2023, 12:30 PM   #7
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1. Apps menu
2. "Vehicle apps"
3. "Doors and windows"
4. "Lock/unlock"
5. Untick "Turn off after opening door"
It doesn't work like this for 45e. Setting in #5 does nothing.
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      05-16-2023, 12:36 PM   #8
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It doesn't work like this for 45e. Setting in #5 does nothing.
So I posted the instructions from the 50e manual, because that's what the OP posted?

But I have a 45e, and I absolutely have this disabled and it works perfectly.

I cannot stand when the car shuts down when I open the door, so I have it unticked, and everything stays on until it locks (in my case, as I walk away from the car with fob in my pocket).
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      05-16-2023, 12:43 PM   #9
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It doesn't work like this for 45e. Setting in #5 does nothing.
Works like that with my 40i, if it doesn't for your 45e, do an iDrive reset, then check that box, exit that particular screen, go back to it and uncheck it and see what that does. Maybe there's a stuck bit that needs reset. If you indeed have menu item #5 and it's not grayed out, I would think it is supposed to work. If that doesn't work, stand on your head and stack BB's while cursing the car with the engine on, door closed and drivers window open. One of those things might do the trick Dang software
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      05-16-2023, 12:50 PM   #10
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if the logic is the same as the 45e, the following post has links to multiple threads on the subject.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=29575586

in a nutshell, the vehicle will turn off when the driver exits the vehicle. this is to ‘prevent engine idling’ which is a logic carried over from ICE-only vehicles even though the 45e/50e are PHEV.

it takes some planning and behavior modification, but if the goal is to keep passengers comfortable while the driver steps out quickly, ensure you have adequate HV battery charge so you can activate preconditioning before stepping out (should pop up on the control display after pressing to Stop button to end your trip and must be done before the driver opens the door).

there are a couple workarounds to actually idle the engine, though. steps are buried in the link above.
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Works like that with my 40i, if it doesn't for your 45e, do an iDrive reset, then check that box, exit that particular screen, go back to it and uncheck it and see what that does. Maybe there's a stuck bit that needs reset. If you indeed have menu item #5 and it's not grayed out, I would think it is supposed to work. If that doesn't work, stand on your head and stack BB's while cursing the car with the engine on, door closed and drivers window open. One of those things might do the trick Dang software
I can confirm this as well. Work ok 40i, but not on 45e. It is not about iDrive reset, it is the way it is for 45e for a reason I cannot think of.

In order to keep 45e running, ICE needs to be on at park. This can happen under two circumstances, which I observed with consistency.

1)the method of put car in hybrid, foot on brake, tap gas. This will turn on ICE at park, regardless of HVB SoC.

2)HVB and 12V are drained to a point ICE need to come up and charge HVB which is used to charge 12V.

Under these two cases, car is on, ICE is running, I can open door without driver seat belt buckled, and car/ICE will keep running.
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      05-16-2023, 01:06 PM   #12
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if the logic is the same as the 45e, the following post has links to multiple threads on the subject.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=29575586

in a nutshell, the vehicle will turn off when the driver exits the vehicle. this is to “prevent idling” which is a logic carried over from ICE-only vehicles even though the 45e/50e are PHEV.

it takes some planning and behavior modification, but if the goal is to keep passengers comfortable while the driver steps out quickly, ensure you have adequate HV battery charge so you can activate preconditioning before stepping out (should pop up on the control display after pressing to Stop button to end your trip and must be done before the driver opens the door).

there are a couple workarounds to actually idle the engine, though. steps are buried in the link above.
Except for ICE, that "turn off car when door open" option can disable this. For 45e, that option does nothing unless ICE is on.

Edit:

I think I got what you mean. yes, this option above, refer to the ICE, could be 40i, or 45e operating with ICE on. Yes, I totally agree with you here
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Except for ICE, that "turn off car when door open" option can disable this. For 45e, that option does nothing unless ICE is on.

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I think I got what you mean. yes, this option above, refer to the ICE, could be 40i, or 45e operating with ICE on. Yes, I totally agree with you here
I think you corrected it but for clarification, the "Turn off Vehicle after Opening Door" option has nothing to do with turning off the engine. This only deals with the electronics and establishing Idle state after the engine is shut off.
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      05-16-2023, 03:56 PM   #14
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can you just press the start button again while exiting the car?

I need to try on mine
I tried, no luck.
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      05-16-2023, 04:46 PM   #15
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I tried this today on my 50e.

5. Untick "Turn off after opening door".

Pulled in my driveway, put in park, opened the door to get out and get my mail. The car shut down…
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The car engine will always shut down regardless if box 5 is ticked or not, it is the radio etc that turns off or not after opening door. This has been discussed in many posts pre LCI and nobody has come up with a way around it, it is there for safety reasons.
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1. Apps menu
2. "Vehicle apps"
3. "Doors and windows"
4. "Lock/unlock"
5. Untick "Turn off after opening door"
I believe this is for the displays only, not the AC. I guess we would have to adapt and activate the pre-condition every time.
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Is there a way to change this? It's kind of annoying that the car shuts off when you open the door. So, you are leaving your house, forgot something, opened the door and boom no more AC, the car is loaded with all your family and it's 90 degrees outside. Any solution besides pressing pre-conditioning button on the app?
They all do, even the 45e
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The car engine will always shut down regardless if box 5 is ticked or not, it is the radio etc that turns off or not after opening door. This has been discussed in many posts pre LCI and nobody has come up with a way around it, it is there for safety reasons.
This is incorrect. There are two way to work around as described aboved
1. bucket driver seat belt behind driver and open door
2. for ICE on by putting car in hybrid mode. Park, foot on brake, tap gas. Then open door will not shut car off.

Both case, car won't turn off, pick one for your convenience. I didn't come up with both way, just used both ways often enough. Credit goes to knowledge-able members here. You know who you are
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The easiest way is to just press climate fan button up to start the climate after opening the door.
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This is incorrect. There are two way to work around as described aboved
1. bucket driver seat belt behind driver and open door
2. for ICE on by putting car in hybrid mode. Park, foot on brake, tap gas. Then open door will not shut car off.

Both case, car won't turn off, pick one for your convenience. I didn't come up with both way, just used both ways often enough. Credit goes to knowledge-able members here. You know who you are
I wouldn't call either of these methods convenient, another and far easier way is to leave keys in car.
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      05-17-2023, 09:55 AM   #22
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All three of my BMWs have turned off when you opened the driver's door unless the seatbelt was fastened.

With the logic for start/stop, the thing is engineered for more start cycles than older vehicles, so it's not a big deal. If you need to keep the HVAC running, click the appropriate button when you shut it off. I'm not saying I agree with the way BMW implemented it, but understand that it's a safety issue...the vehicle could move if left on. If you have your seatbelt on, at least it's hard to fall out and then get run over.
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