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      03-19-2024, 02:58 PM   #1
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45e with 100k miles on clock ? Would you??

So been offered a 2020 45e in very good condition, full BMWSH. Motorway mileage 100k miles on it at a very good price .. should I be tempted or leave it ?
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It depends.

If you're gonna just drive the pants off.it and were planning to spend more for a low mile car, have the cash in hand to fix stuff that wears out, and the potential downtime and wear doesn't bother you, sure.

If it's a way to get into a car that was out of your price range with lower miles, absolutely not.
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      03-19-2024, 03:12 PM   #3
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It’s more the first scenario
Just concerned an what could go wrong 😀
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Id be prepared for anything. Transfer case, HVB, electronics, definitely anything wear item.

I'd personally view it as "if I put $5000 into repairs and upkeep every year on this vehicle is it still worth it". Obviously you'd want to change that number based on your local market, that feels like a reasonable guess for my market, maybe one year is only $2500 but it's balanced out by a year that's $7500 where something expensive goes wrong. If the difference in payments for a newer one works out to less than that, go with the newer one. If the payment increase works out to more than your potential repair costs, go with the high mileage one. There's also less value tonerode on the higher mileage car, but if you put 100k miles on it and bring it to 200k miles it's gonna be essentially no value, whereas of you bought one with 20k on it and put 100kiles on it, it's value would be a bit less than what you're looking at this one for.

My 2 cents. Now you just gotta do some math!
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A 45e with 100k miles doesn’t scare me but this post is useless without knowing the price…
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Ok so it’s 15k below market price
For a 2o20 gig spec MSport 45e
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      03-19-2024, 05:55 PM   #7
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BMW claims the batteries are supposed to be good for at least 15 years, of course it would be interesting to know how many of those 100k miles are on the gas vs. electric powertrains. Keep in mind that the rest of the "wear" components (transfer case, powertrain, suspension, etc.) are all being used regardless. It sounds like regular service was performed and if it was done at a dealership where you have a good record then hopefully you're good to go there. I know that several of those "lifetime fluids" that BMW claims don't need to be replaced probably should be (based on what I've read in these forums) so you might want to budget a couple grand to do those over the next year or two (e.g. transmission). B58 should be a reliable enough engine to get another 100k miles, especially if it's splitting duty with the electric, but I'm sure others around here have more experience than I do to chime in. Whatever way you go, good luck and hope you enjoy!
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So been offered a 2020 45e in very good condition, full BMWSH. Motorway mileage 100k miles on it at a very good price .. should I be tempted or leave it ?
Mucho appreciate any thoughts 🙏

If this was a Toyota I would say no problem with 100,000 miles being a German car and a BMW x5 with a 100,000 miles and no warranty plus a EV I would run 🏃‍♀️ not walk it a time bomb anything could drop the day you take ownership . i’m gonna give you an example I bought a 2014 low mileage X535D from Carvana came from California great shape. I decided to take it in for service just to see what they thought the repair bill to get it fixed was $8500, I had leverage because I had a certain amount of days I could return the car back. I gave them the ultimatum fix it or you can have it back that x5 was a 5 year old when I got it mileage was 36,000 and lots of plastic parts that where Literally falling apart it was like a restoration on frame. It lived in the garage for a year every week something needed done eventually I sold it and replaced it with the new X5 my total expense for that year and a half was about 15,000.
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Based on your profile info it appears you are asking if you should buy the same car you already own? Whats wrong with the current x5 45e in your garage that would tempt you to buying a second one with high mileage?
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If this was a Toyota I would say no problem with 100,000 miles being a German car and a BMW x5 with a 100,000 miles and no warranty plus a EV I would run 🏃‍♀️ not walk it a time bomb anything could drop the day you take ownership . i’m gonna give you an example I bought a 2014 low mileage X535D from Carvana came from California great shape. I decided to take it in for service just to see what they thought the repair bill to get it fixed was $8500, I had leverage because I had a certain amount of days I could return the car back. I gave them the ultimatum fix it or you can have it back that x5 was a 5 year old when I got it mileage was 36,000 and lots of plastic parts that where Literally falling apart it was like a restoration on frame. It lived in the garage for a year every week something needed done eventually I sold it and replaced it with the new X5 my total expense for that year and a half was about 15,000.
How's your current X5 treating you? Do you feel the build quality and reliability of the your 2022 X5 is improved over the 2014 MY?

Do you feel comfortable owning your current X5 for 125k miles?
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[QUOTE=docboy;31006166]How's your current X5 treating you? Do you feel the build quality and reliability of the your 2022 X5 is improved over the 2014 MY?

Do you feel comfortable owning your current X5 for 125k miles?

So far it has been great build quality seems to be way advanced from previous models and no cheap plastic Creaking sounds that drove me crazy about previous x5 . Only service has been tires 🛞 for nails at dealer and oil service that I do at home so really maintenance free at the moment currently have 10,800 miles as far as 125,000 won’t own at that point I’ll trade way before that .
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Ok so it’s 15k below market price
For a 2o20 gig spec MSport 45e
Post your version of market price for us please. Are you saying 15k below what a 100k mile market price or 15k below the avg mkt price of a 45e with an avg mile count? a Quick Look at 40i 100k mile cars - I wouldn’t want to pay over mid 20s, maybe upper 20s for a 45e which arguably should cost more out of warranty going forward.

If you want the best advice you gotta be willing to give the details.
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Dang 100K miles, I thought long and hard when I bought my 2023 with a bit over 2K, could not imagine 100K....but that's just me....
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So been offered a 2020 45e in very good condition, full BMWSH. Motorway mileage 100k miles on it at a very good price .. should I be tempted or leave it ?
Mucho appreciate any thoughts 🙏
What is the condition of the HEV battery? Is it out of warranty? It’s not the mileage, it’s the cycles that matter.
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I think that is a question only you can answer. Are you comfortable doing repair and maintenance on the car? If so it may be a good deal. If not, I would stay away from it. I have owned 13 Jaguars, which are known to be expensive to repair and having poor reliability. This means their depreciation curve is almost straight down and make the cars a few years old a bargain IF you can repair and maintain them. My only regret with my 13 Jags is that I sold most of them.
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It depends.

If you're gonna just drive the pants off.it and were planning to spend more for a low mile car, have the cash in hand to fix stuff that wears out, and the potential downtime and wear doesn't bother you, sure.

If it's a way to get into a car that was out of your price range with lower miles, absolutely not.
This is the advice to follow.
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This is the advice to follow.
Agreed and typically it’s safe to assume someone considering this more likely than not falls into the second category bc it doesn’t really make sense for anyone who can afford more.

Once you factor in your repair costs over the next few years you should just have gone with a car 15-20k more - 2 years newer, 25% the miles and CPO…. Why drive a car with 100k miles, not under warranty etc etc if you can afford better and will likely cost you the same over time..

Maybe if you are just a super frugal person, but this only saves your material money if the car does not require large repairs. So if saving that money is a priority, this is too big of a gamble so just get a different car..
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What is the condition of the HEV battery? Is it out of warranty? It’s not the mileage, it’s the cycles that matter.
I don't believe it's possible for any G05 HEV batteries to be out of warranty because none of them are eight years old yet?
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I don't believe it's possible for any G05 HEV batteries to be out of warranty because none of them are eight years old yet?
There is also the mileage aspect to the warranty as well. For me in Texas my battery has an 8yr/80,000 mile warranty.
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First thing I would do is fully charge it and try to figure out how much range the batteries may have lost. I believe the BMW warranty is 8 years and at least 70% of original charge.

The battery replacement could be nasty in time. That is the great unknown with EVs.
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First thing I would do is fully charge it and try to figure out how much range the batteries may have lost. I believe the BMW warranty is 8 years and at least 70% of original charge.

The battery replacement could be nasty in time. That is the great unknown with EVs.
They used to use a minimal percentage, 70%, but that was dropped and now only warranty defects in the battery for 8yrs/100k miles, more on CARB states. OP is on Ireland so that doesn't apply.
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They used to use a minimal percentage, 70%, but that was dropped and now only warranty defects in the battery for 8yrs/100k miles, more on CARB states. OP is on Ireland so that doesn't apply.
I haven't found anything when searching for a while now, and wanted to know if you knew whether or not the 8yrs/100k miles is only for new vehicles or if it also applies to older vehicles as well.
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