[G30M]

Originally Posted by Kimnation

When speed is not judged off of a speed limit but rather by your car’s capability and your own skill, what speed do you consider fast?

it depends

[X5Knox]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Depends on the car, the road, the weather, the light, so many factors.

"Fast" to me generally means "uncomfortable" and "pure concentration." Near The Dragon a few weeks ago there was a 16-mile, perfectly smooth, long sweeping road called the Foothills Parkway. It's a 45mph zone, but our line of cars drove it between 70 & 100 mph the entire way. The conditions were perfect, all the cars were sports cars, tires were heated up, everything was great, but it was also a bit uncomfortable because it required a lot of trust in the tires to maintain their grip. So to me, that was fast, yet 100mph on the interstate on a clear day is many times accidental, and not fast at all.

Foothills parkway and Cherohala skyway are pretty cool to run around 100mph . Can't do that on the Dragon lol 😆

[X5Knox]

I wouldn't want to go to fast in a heavy SUV but I've been over 200 in my other cars .

[Oldgixxer]

Originally Posted by X5Knox

I wouldn't want to go to fast in a heavy SUV but I've been over 200 in my other cars .

Hot damn!!!

Details on the other cars please?

[ppointer]

Originally Posted by IcewaterPete

You make an excellent point. I have the same impression. At RA I can just nip 150 with my M2C on the front straight and if I go hard and late brake into turn 1 with the rear getting squirrelly then I feel it’s fast. Especially with traffic. Otherwise it’s just a number.

Hah, thanks for the reminder. For me, I had to stay on the throttle right to the end of the right-side armco near pit exit. Anything earlier was letting a little fear get in the way.

[Westside Guy]

When my wife starts screaming at me that I’m going way too fast, I know I am speeding!

Occasionally, I do listen to her and slow down.

[erickonphoenix]

Originally Posted by snakes1021

i live near a reasonable straight stretch of toll road in TX and have hit 150 at least once a month when traffic and weather permit. I have hit 165-170 didnt feel that fast closed in on other cars and hit the brakes. younger days 125-130 was a weekend occurance in cars. then 150 or so on bikes bikes are shady one the road. pebbles to the knee cap really hurt, so to bugs.

I got pulled over once on the bike though for sure i was going to jail. cop asked if i thought (the 202 PHX AZ) was my personal race track told me i would die from the wreck Id die from the other cars running me over, get a new rear tires, slow down and have a nice day. not is such nice words but that was the gist.

I'm on that toll road quite often if I'm heading from San Antonio up to see family in Lockhart. It's a real gem and I can pretty much cruise at 105 mph without much fear of enforcement. But if we ever keep going up to Austin I definitely coast down on approach to Travis County. I've been hit with Lidar almost everytime I've entered the county line.

[X5Knox]

Originally Posted by Oldgixxer

Hot damn!!!

Details on the other cars please?

all been over 200mph besides the Plaid

[ASAP]

Assuming a road is very good, straight, long and stable... I think up to 120 MPH in a solid vehicle with a solid suspension feels relatively normal to me. Going above that is where you start to feel a difference... 120 to 150 is a major difference in feel. I've done 150 on a closed airport runway and it felt a bit sketchy even in a solid car.

[c1pher]

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Condorll

We were in Montreal at the end of July with our new '23 X5, insane how many potholes and crappy roads you have. Also car thefts galore from Hotel parking lots, every GD night a car was stolen from the Hampton Inn on Hwy 40, west island. Apparently car thefts are all over Montreal. Our X5 was not touched thank God, had a club on my steering wheel and a faraday pouch for my key fob. Police obviously don't give a crap about the car thefts, been going on for years. Scumbags drive them to the port of Montreal put them in containers and ship them overseas.
Next visit I will fly and will rent a car.

Ya, the road conditions suck, but it's sad when I visited Toronto recently that it's getting worse there too. Seems like govts are just taking liberties and doing the absolutely bare minimum in maintenance.

No idea about car thefts but I assume it's rampant in every major city (what vehicles were being stolen?); Dorval is supposed to be a really safe area. What I appreciate about Montreal is that even though there is a supposed mafia presence, there doesn't seem to be many gun-related killings vs other cities, so it's relatively safe.

[heavyD^2]

It's all relative to the vehicle you are driving.

[Oldgixxer]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

It's all relative to the vehicle you are driving.

100%

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Assuming a road is very good, straight, long and stable... I think up to 120 MPH in a solid vehicle with a solid suspension feels relatively normal to me. Going above that is where you start to feel a difference... 120 to 150 is a major difference in feel. I've done 150 on a closed airport runway and it felt a bit sketchy even in a solid car.

My F90M5 is smooth and stable at 150. Amazing car. And it pulls hard from 100-150. I once drove my wife’s E61 535xi at 150 on snow tires.

[x3mdustin]

Ah the question of speed, sure we have M cars and want to drive fast in them because they do it so well. I live in Quebec, I'm a very careful fast driver if that makes sense.....I don't drive fast around other cars, too dangerous, someone can pull into the left lane and they don't see you coming that fast if your going over 200kmh, 200kmh in my x3m is a joke, super capable and you don't feel it at all, I start to feel like I'm going fast in this car at 240kmh, wind noise picks up a bit being taller than a low slung sports car, I have my straightaways where I know I can go fast......and honestly if I cop gets me at 200kmh plus, I would not stop. I a cop is at 0kmh and I'm going 200 plus, he or she will never catch me, ill go faster if I see the lights on 1km back....ok going off topic a bit, but never happened, hope it never does, but I won't stop, that why I'm careful when speeding, I use Waze as a guide if I want to go fast where there is no cars between a few hundred meters and slow down to speed limit as I approach cars ahead of me. I noticed lots of people are simply afraid to go fast, was (racing) a gls 63s the other day and I'm sure this car is almost as fast, but the driver did not want to go over 210kmh, I zoomed past,,,,another story.
driving fast or slow is a risk, have calculate the risk, and take as little chances as possible. like weavers in and out of cars, (not me at all,) just dumb and reckless driving, I'm fast at times but never reckless, ill only endanger my own life alone on the road and not others.....you get the point. stay safe. and drive fast accordingly.

[Oldgixxer]

Originally Posted by x3mdustin

...I have my straightaways where I know I can go fast......and honestly if I cop gets me at 200kmh plus, I would not stop. I a cop is at 0kmh and I'm going 200 plus, he or she will never catch me, ill go faster if I see the lights on 1km back....

I'm fast at times but never reckless, ill only endanger my own life alone on the road and not others.....

Umm......nevermind

[Marcoose]

In the streets ? 20 mph delta from close-by traffic or 10 mph above speed limit in a busy neighbourhood is asking for trouble. Your own skills have little to do with.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

In the streets ? 20 mph delta from close-by traffic or 10 mph above speed limit in a busy neighbourhood is asking for trouble. Your own skills have little to do with.

I agree. I never go more than 10 mph over the speed limit on freeways. I leave the hard driving for the track.

[No one]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I once drove my wife’s E61 535xi at 150 on snow tires.

Tires have a speed "limit" of their own and winter tires' is (much) lower than the car's "regular" ones'. See the designation on the tire's sidewall. I recall a recommendation to attach a speed limit reminder note somewhere around the dashboard when using winter tires.

[pbonsalb]

Yes, I know I was way over the tire speed limit but I was not sustaining that speed. The rating is for sustained speed. I don’t really like the handling of snows but sometimes they are necessary.

[jamesh81]

I got to 120 on I-75 in Kentucky, and it felt like I was going for a leisurely drive.

I once got a Dodge Neon to 115-120, and that was an experience. I felt like the car was going to rip into pieces at any moment.

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by tranquility

Ya, the road conditions suck, but it's sad when I visited Toronto recently that it's getting worse there too. Seems like govts are just taking liberties and doing the absolutely bare minimum in maintenance.

No idea about car thefts but I assume it's rampant in every major city (what vehicles were being stolen?); Dorval is supposed to be a really safe area. What I appreciate about Montreal is that even though there is a supposed mafia presence, there doesn't seem to be many gun-related killings vs other cities, so it's relatively safe.

I was also in Toronto on that trip, the metro area has deteriorated but not as bad as Montreal. The roads in Oakville, Burlinton, Hamilton are still in decent shape unlike the West Island of Montreal. Cars stolen in Montreal are Toyota's, Lexus, Ford F-150's and and few others. Do a simple Google search for "Montreal Car theft". Like I said, every night there was a car stolen for 4 nights in a row. Other Hotels in Montreal experiencing the same issue, even those with underground garages downtown. Toronto has similar issues with car theft but not as severe. It's really bad for tourism, residents should demand action from their police force.