[BMPHIL]

50E owners dreaming.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bm...BBI8Eq0i4,st:0

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

50E owners dreaming.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bm...BBI8Eq0i4,st:0

Your link is bad as it automatically closes the window. I assume you are referring to the BMW posting about the 50e 0 to 60 being 4.5 seconds. That is actually very slow compared to actual testing. Car and Driver has it at 3.9 seconds which is what they got on the M50i.

[BMPHIL]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Your link is bad as it automatically closes the window. I assume you are referring to the BMW posting about the 50e 0 to 60 being 4.5 seconds. That is actually very slow compared to actual testing. Car and Driver has it at 3.9 seconds which is what they got on the M50i.

No not BMW figures, test showed 4.37, also why would BMW put incorrect figures out for 50E but correct ones for 50/60i, if they are wrong figures they would all be wrong as they would test in same criteria for all engines. In UK bmw give figure of 4.8 seconds for 50E 0-62mph, figure for M50/60i IS given as 4.3 odd that they should get the 5oE so wrong!!!.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

No not BMW figures, test showed 4.37, also why would BMW put incorrect figures out for 50E but correct ones for 50/60i, if they are wrong figures they would all be wrong as they would test in same criteria for all engines. In UK bmw give figure of 4.8 seconds for 50E 0-62mph, figure for M50/60i IS given as 4.3 odd that they should get the 5oE so wrong!!!.

I would say in most instances they publish slower speeds, and lower HP ratings, for all vehicles. Likely expectation setting as well they don't test in the same conditions/configurations as some publications do.

[BMPHIL]

This may help if it can be opened:

https://zeperfs.com/en/duel11342-116...oogle_vignette

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

This may help if it can be opened:

https://zeperfs.com/en/duel11342-116...oogle_vignette

It can't be opened, not sure what you are trying to help with.

[hiluca]

i have done some research in both engine types and have come to this conclusion.

50e 0/100kmh: 4.6sec (4.8 claimed by BMW)
M60i 0/100kmh: 4.1 sec (4.3 claimed by BMW)

also interesting to note is that some tuning companies have already started making tunes for the 50e and in stock form the car was already putting out 515-527hp. Once tuned they got the car to 590-610hp

[BMPHIL]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It can't be opened, not sure what you are trying to help with.

Trying to help with actual testing figures, I can open the link try copying and pasting.

Figures are similar to what hiluca has posted above.

[BMPHIL]

DUEL: BMW X5 IV 50E XDRIVE VS BMW X5 IV M60I

Vehicles
BMW X5 IV 50e xDrive V S BMW X5 IV M60i
2023 - ... 2023 - ...
99 900 € 114 300 €
Engine 3.0 L6T 24
Electric motor
Plug-in hybrid
4.4 V8T 32
Mild hybrid
Transmission Permanent all-wheel drive All-wheel drive
Gearbox: automatic 8 gear automatic 8 gear
Power 489 PS @ 5000 530 PS @ 5500
Torque 700 Nm @ 1750 750 Nm @ 1800
Weight claimed / verified EU 1 2420 kg / 2580 kg 1 2345 kg / 2463 kg 1
Weight/Power ratio 5.3 kg/PS 1 4.6 kg/PS 1
1 Weight (EU) heaviest verified in running order = Weight with 90% fuel load + 75Kg (driver & luggage)
Top Speed claimed: 250 kph limited 250 kph
0 to 100 kph claimed: 4.8 s. 4.3 s.
Average Verified Performance*
0 to 50 1‚9 s. 1‚6 s.
0 to 80 З‚Ƽ s. З‚0 s.
0 to 100 4‚7 s. 4‚0 s.
0 to 130 7‚7 s. 6‚4 s.
0 to 160 11‚Ƽ s. 9‚Ƽ s.
0 to 200 18‚1 s. 1Ƽ‚4 s.
40 to 140 minimum 7‚2 s. 6‚Ƽ s.
80 to 120 minimum
З‚1 s. 2‚2 s.
80 to 180 minimum
10‚Ƽ s. 8‚Ƽ s.
100 to 0 ЗЗ‚7 m. З1‚1 m.
0-160-0
16‚0 s. 1З‚6 s.
0-200-0
2З‚6 s. 20‚Ƽ s.
Kph as default unit
* Average measurements (at real speed) of several vehicles based on tests from the following automotive magazines: Auto BildAuto Motor & SportAuto Zeitung

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

DUEL: BMW X5 IV 50E XDRIVE VS BMW X5 IV M60I

Vehicles
BMW X5 IV 50e xDrive V S BMW X5 IV M60i
2023 - ... 2023 - ...
99 900 € 114 300 €
Engine 3.0 L6T 24
Electric motor
Plug-in hybrid
4.4 V8T 32
Mild hybrid
Transmission Permanent all-wheel drive All-wheel drive
Gearbox: automatic 8 gear automatic 8 gear
Power 489 PS @ 5000 530 PS @ 5500
Torque 700 Nm @ 1750 750 Nm @ 1800
Weight claimed / verified EU 1 2420 kg / 2580 kg 1 2345 kg / 2463 kg 1
Weight/Power ratio 5.3 kg/PS 1 4.6 kg/PS 1
1 Weight (EU) heaviest verified in running order = Weight with 90% fuel load + 75Kg (driver & luggage)
Top Speed claimed: 250 kph limited 250 kph
0 to 100 kph claimed: 4.8 s. 4.3 s.
Average Verified Performance*
0 to 50 1‚9 s. 1‚6 s.
0 to 80 З‚Ƽ s. З‚0 s.
0 to 100 4‚7 s. 4‚0 s.
0 to 130 7‚7 s. 6‚4 s.
0 to 160 11‚Ƽ s. 9‚Ƽ s.
0 to 200 18‚1 s. 1Ƽ‚4 s.
40 to 140 minimum 7‚2 s. 6‚Ƽ s.
80 to 120 minimum
З‚1 s. 2‚2 s.
80 to 180 minimum
10‚Ƽ s. 8‚Ƽ s.
100 to 0 ЗЗ‚7 m. З1‚1 m.
0-160-0
16‚0 s. 1З‚6 s.
0-200-0
2З‚6 s. 20‚Ƽ s.
Kph as default unit
* Average measurements (at real speed) of several vehicles based on tests from the following automotive magazines: Auto BildAuto Motor & SportAuto Zeitung

This is interesting to see. Thank you for posting.
Do they have 40i numbers too? Would be curious to see those stacked up against these 2.

[BMPHIL]

Will have a look later Matt, 40i isn't available in UK so may not be able to find.

[BMPHIL]

40I BELOW

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by rmorin1249

The CR score for the X5 of 92 is one of the highest ever awarded for any vehicle. Kudos to BMW but I'm still not convinced to trade up. My 2019 has been a great vehicle once I sorted out some of the software glitches early on. It's a keeper as long as it stays reliable.

Same here. My 2019 X5 40i just turned 5 years old and it's been perfect. At 50k miles its just getting started. I have no plan or need to upgrade to a newer version. I think the G05 X5 is a great vehicle.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

40I BELOW

Thank you!!

Interesting to see the 40i top end is not all that different than the 50e. 50e excels in the off the line from e boost.