04-28-2023, 08:25 PM | #45 |
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Plugged it in for the first time after depleting the battery and car indicated it will be at 100% 3 hours and 15 min from now. EVSE is a Juicebox 40. Can I expect this type of charging time?
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the photo provided some good info, though. - max 10A on 120V (level 1) - max 40A on 240V (level 2) |
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04-28-2023, 09:01 PM | #47 | |
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even when calculated manually: 28kWh divided by 7.4kW equals 3.8h, so 3h15m is too fast. according to physics, that’s simply impossible was the “3h15m” from the vehicle display or MyBMW app or the JuiceBox app? definitely don’t go by the JuiceBox app! I would argue your battery wasn’t completely at 0% but likely closer to 20% when you started charging Last edited by nZtiZia; 04-29-2023 at 08:00 AM.. |
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04-29-2023, 03:41 AM | #48 |
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I believe the adapter that you need for level two with a 240v/50amp circuit is part number 61905A13A61
as seen here, item #9. https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/a/BMW...y/03_5734.html With that said it really annoys me that it is not included with a 90K 50e, considering that it is included with the iX. I will try to get the dealership to "throw it in" when my 50e is delivered hopefully within the next 2 weeks. |
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04-29-2023, 06:13 AM | #49 | |
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04-29-2023, 06:18 AM | #50 |
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50e goes up to 7.4 kWh only!!! So, the full charge from 0% (or nearly 0%) to 100% should take around 4 hours. 3 hours and 15 minutes is unrealistic unless your battery is starting with a bit higher than 0%.
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04-29-2023, 06:23 AM | #51 |
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Yes, as some other new 50e owners have mentioned in the 50e Facebook group NEMA 14-50 adapter is not included with the flexible fast charger that comes with the car in the US.
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Adapter Cable NEMA 14-50 40A Part Number: 61905A13A61 |
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04-29-2023, 08:14 AM | #54 | |
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You can use any level 2 at home charger. I went with chargepoint.. it cost like 800 install was like 1200 so 2gs total.. they had to put a 60amp breaker in the electrician did and hardwired it to the main panel.. it took like an hour. I have a 23 x5 45e. |
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go into your MyBMW online account > ConnectedDrive Store > CarData it'll take about a day or so to compile the info. once you get it, look for the line item "Energy content of the high voltage battery". please report back. thanks! javapro we missing something here? I recall reading 20.9kWh on pre-release publications, but since release they all say 25.7kWh Last edited by nZtiZia; 04-30-2023 at 07:11 AM.. |
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we 45e owners had no choice but to buy a separate level 2; i have the JuiceBox (two, actually) Last edited by nZtiZia; 04-30-2023 at 07:15 AM.. |
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04-29-2023, 10:26 AM | #58 |
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You gotta be kidding me? Is BMW screwing US customers again by putting a lower limit on usable capacity? And this is after they publish the US specs everywhere saying that “Energy cap (gross / net) (kWh) 29.5 / 25.7”. Unbelievable! If I f were a 50e owner, I would really start to complaint to BMW Corporate after confirming that the usable capacity is indeed below the advertised 25.7 kWh through the telematics report.
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04-29-2023, 11:56 AM | #62 |
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I assume BMW sets the limit to 21 kWh so customers are not able charge to 100% of the actual full battery capacity on a daily basis. It is a built-in limiter. I have a 50e on order and currently drive a Tesla. With Tesla you are able to charge close to 100% capacity but recommended to charge around 80% on a daily basis.
My guess is that with PHEV going through more frequent charge cycles than full EV's BMW only allows access to 21 kWh of the full capacity for daily charging. Thoughts? |
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What is the reason that they are allowing a lower usable percentage of battery capacity in the US? Why is the electric only range 42 miles in the US and 60+ miles everywhere else? What is the reason BMW is doing this in the US?
If the battery capacity is 29.5 kwh and BMW is only allowing us to use 80%, shouldn't the usable capacity in the US then be (80% of 29.5) 23.6 kwh? |
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extrapolating from fr_tz post, it appears the actual usable capacity is around ~21kWh only, not the published 25.7kWh (at least in the U.S. models). we’re still waiting for confirmation from the telematics report.** **if any non-U.S. 50e can do the same, we could get more data to draw a reliable conclusion akin67 from our time with the 45e, it’s well-known that this is done to reduce full charge cycles, thus increasing battery life which is the same reason Tesla recommends users charge to 80% versus 100%. Last edited by nZtiZia; 04-30-2023 at 07:16 AM.. |
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