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More and more reporting the adaptive mode button is gone too. Replaced with HDC in the same spot.
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What are the best aftermarket options to head back int eh B&W quality direction?
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https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091PS1...XE.html?tp=106 Using Focal amps as well Front and rear/top sound bar. 2 pairs total. The highs are great. I love highs. Would rather have highs and mids rather than bass. Not overwhelming bass thou. Has to be leveled out. Mids....ok.. Lows go to my JL stealthboxes I am happy with them in general. They take the power going to them. Im pushing around 100-120 each channel using the crossovers they came with. I was using a JL DSP and I ripped it out. Using the DSP in the headunit for timing. I had it professionally installed but I took out the DSP myself and then tuned it myself. I am in the process of putting in my order for the x5 m50i and I am beyond pissed the B&W is not available to order. I really didn't want to do aftermarket again. But I have no choice unless they make avalible again. Hopefully before its not to late to edit the build. Sending in the build between today and Friday. Focal is a great brand, but there is always better. I think if enuf speakers are used, we should be happy with the sound. The B&W had 26 speakers I think. You can also buy the retrofit kit on ebay for the B&W i think.
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I didnt know Focal made kits esp for the X5. Here they are
https://www.focal-inside.com/bmw/en/...uv-2018-g05-2/ The best it looks like....FOCAL INSIDE PREMIUM 9.2
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It might be a better upgrade from the HK but from looking at the specs I dont think it will compare to the B&W. The components only handle 40w rms and 80w max. My 2 cents. Depends on ur liking thou.
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My 20 month old 2020 40i was totaled two weeks ago. It had all of these decontented options in the Executive Package and B&W. Looking at the current build configurator is like shopping for a different vehicle.
Even worse, imho, my insurance co lowballed the total loss valuation of the car. Now that I'm a cautionary tale, I'm going to start a new thread and ask you guys to weigh in on the numbers..... |
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Should come back in time
A long time ago I worked as an engineer for an auto OEM, which role included audio testing (IVI, to be precise). Normally, audio systems are supplied for the whole duration of one lifecycle of a vehicle, so the B&W audio options should not have been deleted for this model year. I am guessing that B&W, being a standalone audio company unlike the conglomerate, Harman, lacks economy of scale in these tough times thanks to insufficient supply of chips. I am further guessing that the problems at Renesas, a major chip supplier in Japan, might be at fault. I also talked to a BMW purchasing manager (former, now doing other roles) who told me that BMW also lacks economy of scale (2M/yr) unlike Toyota, so this chip problem is really hitting BMW hard. I am guessing that BMW purchasing div. should be working hard to bring back H&K/B&W for the next MY, so we should see. In any case, B&W should be obligated to supply sufficient number of units for BMW X5, X7 and all other related vehicles, but this being one of those god-sent level of calamity, we would have to wait a bit longer. On the brighter side of things, air suspension seems to be back for X5 4.0i, although it does require a third row, so the features that were provided and then gone w/o warning, seems to be returning. I'd suggest that you wait a little bit more if you like premium audios: the sound difference should be night and day when compared to base garbage.
P.S. b/c of the field that I current work in, I found out that chip makers are not enthusiastic about increasing chip production for cars. Low level tech, low margin, old machinery that is pretty much hard to get from the market, and car makers being a low-level client (the largest client being IT), the chip makers are asking car makers to invest as well (as it was the case with BMW investing $1B for Bosch). |
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Really really really hoping when BMW takes an order, they're accounting for the parts/supplies needed for ALL the orders on the books ... and any future config changes due to parts challenges are applicable to NEW orders in that they don't even allow the configuration. It'll kill my faith if it's an after-the-fact change. If I hear anything I'll post it and please do the same! |
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Something to add to the B&W discussion:
BMW is upgrading the B&W option next July ... Per Ynguldyn, on the upcoming new 7-series: Even better version of B&W audio.Perhaps this may also be contributing to the shortage ... BMW may be thinking it's worth a production pause / slow down and then simply moving to whatever new tech whether or not it debuts on the new 7 series. Just speculating of course ... |
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Good news on my front is there seem to be plenty of new X5 M50i's out there with B&W, so I could snag one right now, or I could switch things up and get a CPO M550i with B&W for nearly half the price. Maybe can't get exactly what I want, but there are lots of options. |
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Anyone hear any news? I just got a email today saying my allocation is ready to order. X5 M50i I am having second thoughts cause I cant order the B&W
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Also getting an email telling you you can order seems odd ... maybe to just me. I typically call/email around for an allocation and when I find one at a dealer at the right price I order then & there, but horses for courses ... |
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