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I wouldn’t ever use the hands free driving feature. In fact they could have saved that chip and forwarded the cash savings on my rig. These are simply meant for driving enthusiasts wanting to actually pay FULL attention to the driving experience with these (dare I say) extreme machines….I do enjoy the ambient lighting, paddle shifters, and modern interface tho 🤣
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Can’t wait for full auto driving capability on my M cars. I’d prolly hardly ever use it but it will help if/when fatigue sets in on long road trips or if I need to quickly reply to heated Bimmerpost postings on my phone while on the road.
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Even the limited hands-on version we have now gets used every day in my car on the daily commute. Was doubtful upon purchase, but would really miss it if it went away now. For "fun" driving, sure, it's not desirable. But for the divided highway slog in traffic to the office, it's a home run.
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I think it’s pretty cool for an M car to be a big ass SUV with all the latest tech and a bitch’n turbo’d out V8. Who’s gonna buy a stripped down X5M with a manual? Like all of 10 people ?(sign me up) BMW likes money tho and the public likes dumb ass lighting with 617hp. I know I do! Get an M2 for the driving experience everybody raves about. Then see how there’s hatred there too for a blasphemest electric power steering system or something like that. Hahaha.
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I need to see if our pre-LCI X5M has any hands off modes. I haven’t figured that out yet. Or how to make it automatically parallel park it self. Or remote start.
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11-19-2023, 09:24 AM | #28 |
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I was looking forward to highway assistance and after reading this thread I realized that it is absent from the Driver Assistance Pro Package on the X6MC.
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So, I just checked out all the true M models on bmwusa.com and noticed that none of them offer highway assistance in the Driver Assistance Pro package. This revelation is somewhat reassuring. Initially, I thought they might be reserving this feature for a 2025 "upgrade". They still could, but now I'm inclined to believe there might be a different reason for its absence in the M models. I'll definitely take the other advantages over that feature.
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I wanted an M but went for M60i solely because I wanted highway driving… My order is received but no VIN or anything yet. Seriously wondering if I should change this. |
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Yes. I have installed the same module on my XM base since it is on iDrive8 where I still have to keep my hand on steering wheel most of the time. Except when DAP+ is active at 40mph and lower.
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Oh ok, you're right. The build options for the XM are different from other models. It doesn't offer the Driving Assistant Pro Package. Upon revisiting the details, I noticed that highway assistance is a standard feature on the XM, which appears to be unique among the M models. Good catch.
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From what I understand, the highway assistance feature allows for hands-free driving up to 85 mph. Perhaps I’m not fully grasping your point. Does the module Active Driving Assistant Pro?
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r33_RGSport does this mean I could switch my 2024 X5 M60i order to a 2024 X5 M Competition, and then work with you on this module to add the full highway driver assistant with self driving up to 85 MPH? |
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Based on VirtualGuitars and BMWXMBlack who has XM Label with iDrive 8.5, I don’t have the capability. I have to keep my hand on the steering wheel above 40mph when DAP+ is automatically disabled and becomes regular DAP. Quote:
But, based on what I’ve read in X5M forum, guys who has iDrive8.5, has DAP+ activated up to 85mph. In your case, ‘24 model should have iDrive8.5 already.
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————- Due to the head unit swap on all XM’s built after August, the 2024s have more features that aren’t supported on the older head unit. There is no upgrade path to swap head units either because the wiring harnesses are completely different. The same thing happened to those of us with 2023 iX’s built before March. Now that particular vehicle platform has a lot more reliance on the head unit than the XM does, but the added capabilities are the same. 2023 BMW XM (before August 2023) MGU 21 / HU-H4 head unit iDrive 8.0 (not upgradable to 8.5 due to limitations of the head unit) Traffic Jam Assistant (hands-free driving up to 40 mph) Highway Assistant not supported Augmented reality on the main display 2024 BMW XM / XM Label (or any late 2023 XM’s built after August 1) MGU 22 / HU-H5 head unit (double the CPU and memory) iDrive 8.5 M with QuickSelect (looks slightly different than iDrive 8.5 on non-M vechicles. See attachments.) Traffic Jam Assistant (hands-free driving up to 40 mph) Highway Assistant (hands-free driving up to 85 mph) Augmented reality on the main display AND the instrument cluster “Customers that have BMW Operating System 8 with the HU-H4 head unit WILL NOT be able to move to BMW Operating System 8.5. Also, due to the multiple hardware, software and wiring harness changes, a retrofit option from the HU-H4 head unit to the HU-H5 head unit WILL NOT be possible.” I have attached some internal documentation from BMW to the dealers regarding iDrive 8.5 and limitations of the two head units. It’s a few months old at this point, but at least you can see the words coming directly from BMW. |
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I’m curious about capability for the X5 M Comp and not an XM. Or maybe XM is meant to refer to any M line X series (X3 M, X5 M, XM…)? |
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All 2024 BMWs should have highway assistant as an option if they purchase the driving assistance package. The same head unit change happened on the iX in March of this year. In summary, any XM built before August will not have highway assistant. It is an option on the actual build sheet and window sticker (see attachment). if you look at the attachments I provided on the previous post, you’ll see there is also no retrofit option for the unit itself. Hope this helps clear it up. |
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Different BMWs have received the updated head unit at different times. The XM got it in August, the iX’s and I4’s got it changed in March. The i7’s have always had it. Note some vehicles like the M8 still have iDrive 7 and the legacy head units before it. |
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VirtualGuitars thank you for clarifying!
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Apologies. I thought this thread was part of the XM forum since I was tagged in it. You can also find your head unit version inside iDrive In the regulations section. If it says MGU 21, than Highway Assistant will not be an option. If it says MGU 22 and you have purchased the driver assistance professional package, then you should be able to take advantage of highway assistant.
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