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      12-09-2018, 12:21 PM   #1
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G05/G06 Technical Training documents

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File Type: pdf 01_G05 Body.pdf (1.77 MB, 3730 views)
File Type: pdf 02_G05 Powertrain-Chassis.pdf (3.61 MB, 3835 views)
File Type: pdf 03_G05 General Vehicle Electronics.pdf (3.63 MB, 3461 views)
File Type: pdf 04_G05 Driver Assistance Systems.pdf (2.18 MB, 3736 views)
File Type: pdf 05_G05 Displays and Controls.pdf (1.42 MB, 3206 views)
File Type: pdf 06_G05 Infotainment.pdf (1.72 MB, 7144 views)
File Type: pdf ST1910 G06 Complete Vehicle.pdf (2.10 MB, 587 views)

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      12-09-2018, 12:32 PM   #2
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Fantastic! Thank you.

[Edit] - Reading through these, some good gold nuggets. Shows CD player for glovebox. Confirms 464 watts used for Harman Kardon sound system.

5AR ("Extended Traffic Jam Assistant" the added capability in the Driving Assistance Professional Package) is not listed as hardware... in other words, ZDB and ZDY appear to use the same hardware...

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Brilliant!!! It's beyond me why they don't make most of this available for buyers. Some of this is incredibly useful and difficult to find out, leading to tons of speculation on boards and conversations with difficult CAs. Thanks so much for posting.

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Really really awesome. Best post evah!

If you happen to come across this doc please do post.

Product information N63TU3 Engine

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      12-09-2018, 02:28 PM   #5
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Awesome!!! Thank you!

This should definitely be stickied!
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Wow, this would be so helpful in picking options !

thank you very much for posting !!
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Really really awesome. Best post evah!

If you happen to come across this doc please do post.

Product information N63TU3 Engine

Thanks!
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...postcount=1989
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Why I cannot see the doc?
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      12-09-2018, 04:06 PM   #9
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Why I cannot see the doc?
Switch to desktop browser.
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      12-09-2018, 04:10 PM   #10
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Wow, this would be so helpful in picking options !

thank you very much for posting !!

Agreed - I'm reading some of the details on the various suspensions and brakes and may have rethought a few things... Not sure I'd change my order, but I might have thought harder about some other options.

In the powertrain and chassis document, the section on brakes makes me wonder what the real difference is between some of the brake configurations... Some brake calipers look like the only difference is blue paint?

In that same document, the sections on the off-road and air suspension functions are very detailed and provide a lot of information about the various suspension setups that would have been helpful to know prior to purchasing.

BMW's challenge is in communicating the massive amount of technology and capability they pack into these cars. The CA's ability to understand, recall and correctly communicate it... too much gets lost.

I'm not knocking the CAs. Take the X5 and then add the entire lineup of BMW's products and the constantly changing nomenclature that refers to the same capability... and then the new technologies... it's just not realistic.
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      12-09-2018, 05:29 PM   #11
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Wow, this would be so helpful in picking options !

thank you very much for posting !!

Agreed - I'm reading some of the details on the various suspensions and brakes and may have rethought a few things... Not sure I'd change my order, but I might have thought harder about some other options.

In the powertrain and chassis document, the section on brakes makes me wonder what the real difference is between some of the brake configurations... Some brake calipers look like the only difference is blue paint?

In that same document, the sections on the off-road and air suspension functions are very detailed and provide a lot of information about the various suspension setups that would have been helpful to know prior to purchasing.

BMW's challenge is in communicating the massive amount of technology and capability they pack into these cars. The CA's ability to understand, recall and correctly communicate it... too much gets lost.

I'm not knocking the CAs. Take the X5 and then add the entire lineup of BMW's products and the constantly changing nomenclature that refers to the same capability... and then the new technologies... it's just not realistic.
The brake differences are bigger rotors and larger calipers which can be seen in the little notes.

Edit: The only difference between the DHP and regular M suspension seems to be the anti roll bars (not counting the IAS) which is disappointing. You're basically paying $3600 for IAS + anti roll bars unless I'm missing something.
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The brake differences are bigger rotors and larger calipers which can be seen in the little notes
I though so too - but then this breakdown (image below) makes it look like the M-Sport calipers are not so different from the 18 inch disc calipers.

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      12-09-2018, 07:27 PM   #13
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Excellent info. Any chance someone have the link to the G01 technical training documents?
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This suggests there are three different brakes, with 17", 18" and 19" discs. The 19" disc brakes are the blue painted M Sport brakes but I have never seen any option to specify 18" disc brakes from Brembo vs. 17" disc brakes from Continental. Does it have anything to do with wheel size? I have a 40i with M Sport package with 20" wheels, but did not order M Sport brakes. Do I get 17" or 18" discs on my brakes?? Or maybe the 50i gets the intermediate brakes?


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I though so too - but then this breakdown (link below) makes it look like the M-Sport calipers are not so different from the 18 inch disc calipers.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jLRFvY4epfXax7Uv9
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This suggests there are three different brakes, with 17", 18" and 19" discs. The 19" disc brakes are the blue painted M Sport brakes but I have never seen any option to specify 18" disc brakes from Brembo vs. 17" disc brakes from Continental. Does it have anything to do with wheel size? I have a 40i with M Sport package with 20" wheels, but did not order M Sport brakes. Do I get 17" or 18" discs on my brakes?? Or maybe the 50i gets the intermediate brakes?
Kinda what I was wondering...

Looks like, if you order a setup that comes with the 18" disc brakes - you get the M-Sport calipers... just not painted blue. Not sure that's accurate - but kinda looks that way... no?
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What setup comes with the 18" disc brakes? It's not specified in those terms in the ordering package.

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Kinda what I was wondering...

Looks like, if you order a setup that comes with the 18" disc brakes - you get the M-Sport calipers... just not painted blue. Not sure that's accurate - but kinda looks that way... no?
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Here's another detail that you cannot find in any sales guide or ordering guide... not sure if it means these absorbers are included with 19 inch rims - or if "from" means 20 inch and above... run flats only... interesting to comb through this stuff.
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Excellent info. Any chance someone have the link to the G01 technical training documents?
I assumed they'd been published by now, but if not I'll take care of it.
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The brake differences are bigger rotors and larger calipers which can be seen in the little notes
I though so too - but then this breakdown (link below) makes it look like the M-Sport calipers are not so different from the 18 inch disc calipers.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jLRFvY4epfXax7Uv9
I think the picture is off unless those calipers are actually identical and have the same number of pistons. I don't think we can tell from the image alone with a P/N
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Brakes:

40i base: floating 348x30 + 345x24
40i w/ 3rd row: fixed 4 piston 348x36 + 345x24
50i base: fixed 4 piston 374x36 + 345x24
any engine + 2NH: fixed 4 piston 395x36 + 370x24
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Fantastic! Thank you.

[Edit] - Reading through these, some good gold nuggets. Shows CD player for glovebox. Confirms 464 watts used for Harman Kardon sound system.

5AR ("Extended Traffic Jam Assistant" the added capability in the Driving Assistance Professional Package) is not listed as hardware... in other words, ZDB and ZDY appear to use the same hardware...
If the hardware is the same, and it looks like it is, I hope they offer a software upgrade option (Plus to Pro).
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Brakes:

40i base: floating 348x30 + 345x24
40i w/ 3rd row: fixed 4 piston 348x36 + 345x24
50i base: fixed 4 piston 374x36 + 345x24
any engine + 2NH: fixed 4 piston 395x36 + 370x24
Great info and thanks again for posting the guides! A lot of detail in them and a lot more information to help understand the details behind the different options/packages.
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