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      02-06-2020, 12:14 PM   #1343
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By a PRO driver, on a closed course. Vewy vewy intewesting compawison.
True, true. But who am I supposed to compare myself to then? Factory spec car, pro driver, closed course is as golden standard as it gets.

And sure, the pro driver will always be faster, a C8 is way quicker than my M2, and I'm no pro. But I only have 16 or so laps around the 'Ring so far. This year that will jump to around 80. And I will push my lap times down to high 7s or at least low 8s. And than the 68 second out of this world gap will shrink to ~30s or so. Which I think is a respectable outcome here and something I can be proud of. That's my line of thinking anyway.

The only better comparison would be against the same car. So 7:58 for 2016 M2 is the time. But that's a full lap time, not BTG. BTG would have been 7:35 or so. Giving up about a second per km on the Ring to pro driver would also be something I can live with.
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      02-09-2020, 01:10 PM   #1344
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That also means we get to start seeing them on the streets.
I saw a couple pre-productions models on the street last year. I live in central Ohio, so it is probably trips from Michigan to Bowling Green.

I saw a bunch of NSX's before they were out as well a couple of years ago; one was at my kid's daycare with MFG plates on it.

I adore this new C8. I'm not willing to spend the coin on that. Hopefully when plenty are in the wild the C7 values will tank. I would like to dump the E92 in the next year or so for a new daily, and a C7 is on the shortlist of considerations (as is a '16 - '18 2SS Camaro and a F82).
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Still waiting to see one in the wild. They should be hitting the streets real soon.
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      02-28-2020, 03:59 PM   #1346
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I really want a G87 M2 but the G-series grilles are looking really bad and the overall styling and rim options are awful. So I am still planning to grab a 3rd year production of the C8. BMW, I want to give you my money but you don't want it.
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i just sat in one and did a small test drive while in detroit....it feels neat inside, but the cockpit is fucking stupid, the exterior looks and feels plastic, the engine sounds great and feels like my M, but it still feels like a cheap GM sports car...id rather get an M5/m550 to get that v8 feel.. this will be a great CPO CAR..
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i just sat in one and did a small test drive while in detroit....it feels neat inside, but the cockpit is fucking stupid, the exterior looks and feels plastic, the engine sounds great and feels like my M, but it still feels like a cheap GM sports car...id rather get an M5/m550 to get that v8 feel.. this will be a great CPO CAR..
I have absolutely no interest in a two ton sedan with awd, but it's cool that both exist.
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I have absolutely no interest in a two ton sedan with awd, but it's cool that both exist.
2021 M3 will be AWD just put a California roof on it!
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I have absolutely no interest in a two ton sedan with awd, but it's cool that both exist.
2021 M3 will be AWD just put a California roof on it!
Not the ones with proper transmissions.
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Not the ones with proper transmissions.
ok boomer?
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Not the ones with proper transmissions.
ok boomer?
Get off my lawn.
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      03-07-2020, 07:17 AM   #1354
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      03-08-2020, 12:03 PM   #1355
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Watched this on YouTube
They said it exhibited mid corner "push" but didn't want to say UNDERSTEER as not to upset GM
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I saw one at a trade show a few days ago. It looks the part, but not fond of the sharp beak in front.
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Watched this on YouTube
They said it exhibited mid corner "push" but didn't want to say UNDERSTEER as not to upset GM
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3 seconds later he literally said, "It still pulls 1g while understeering."
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Saw one at Cars and Coffee this past weekend. Thought it looked okay, dark metallic grey paint looked good, still overly angular with odd proportions. Had a rear wing and some other aero bits, the interior looked very nice, lots of contrasting stitching, had alcantara wheel and door inserts and what not. I was telling myself, man, this is awfully upscale for a $60,000 Vette, then I looked at the sticker, $95,000 lol. Would never pay anywhere near that for a GM car, even if I do get a discount. No thank you.
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Saw one at Cars and Coffee this past weekend. Thought it looked okay, dark metallic grey paint looked good, still overly angular with odd proportions. Had a rear wing and some other aero bits, the interior looked very nice, lots of contrasting stitching, had alcantara wheel and door inserts and what not. I was telling myself, man, this is awfully upscale for a $60,000 Vette, then I looked at the sticker, $95,000 lol. Would never pay anywhere near that for a GM car, even if I do get a discount. No thank you.
That's if you load up with too many options IMO. Just give me a 2LT trim in orange w/red interior & the high wing. I'll customize the rest myself.

I sure hope the Z06 or ZR1 are not $200k MSRP.
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That's if you load up with too many options IMO. Just give me a 2LT trim in orange w/red interior & the high wing. I'll customize the rest myself.

I sure hope the Z06 or ZR1 are not $200k MSRP.
I'm expecting the Z06 to be around 140-150 and the ZR1 to be 180+.
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That's if you load up with too many options IMO. Just give me a 2LT trim in orange w/red interior & the high wing. I'll customize the rest myself.

I sure hope the Z06 or ZR1 are not $200k MSRP.
I'm expecting the Z06 to be around 140-150 and the ZR1 to be 180+.
They'd sell six. The Z06 will remain safely under $100k (base) and the ZR1 will likely be around $125k.

I can't think of any car that seen a 50% increase in price. Especially when we already know that the base model barely increased in price.
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They'd sell six. The Z06 will remain safely under $100k (base) and the ZR1 will likely be around $125k.

I can't think of any car that seen a 50% increase in price. Especially when we already know that the base model barely increased in price.
Sorry, I meant with decent options. A stripper C8Z will be cheap for sure, but having seen a base model C8 already push close to 6 figures, the numbers I said are easily achievable.
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They'd sell six. The Z06 will remain safely under $100k (base) and the ZR1 will likely be around $125k.

I can't think of any car that seen a 50% increase in price. Especially when we already know that the base model barely increased in price.
Sorry, I meant with decent options. A stripper C8Z will be cheap for sure, but having seen a base model C8 already push close to 6 figures, the numbers I said are easily achievable.
Well yeah, just like you can build a six figure 718 or a 200k Carrera.
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