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      01-16-2020, 08:16 AM   #1
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This is (to me anyway) the most succinct detailed analysis of how Trump was elected, what mistakes were made, what his challenges are and what happens next. Interesting to say the least.


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i can tell you how he was elected without watching a 40 minute video.

the left focused too much on minority groups and issues and ignored a large portion of middle america and the working class during the election. Couple that with Obama focusing on the same during his presidency, and you had a large population of people that felt they werent being looked after, and trump capitalized on that. And the cherry on top was putting up an unelectable to many candidate in Hillary and you had a trainwreck waiting to happen.

Unfortunately, the left is going back to this same gameplan to win the 2020 election.
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The democrat nominee calling roughly half the country deplorable during the campaign didn’t exactly help either.
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^won't argue with that.

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i can tell you how he was elected without watching a 40 minute video.

the left focused too much on minority groups and issues and ignored a large portion of middle america and the working class during the election. Couple that with Obama focusing on the same during his presidency, and you had a large population of people that felt they werent being looked after, and trump capitalized on that. And the cherry on top was putting up an unelectable to many candidate in Hillary and you had a trainwreck waiting to happen.

Unfortunately, the left is going back to this same gameplan to win the 2020 election.
I guess this response is on topic, but was really hoping to have a discussion on the video. However you did touch on an one of the more obvious facts about Trumps election. And yes Hillary did not know how to brand or market herself.
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When you two have time, can you watch the video and respond to it specifically, since that's what this thread was supposed to be for?
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When you two have time, can you watch the video and respond to it specifically, since that's what this thread was supposed to be for?


Seriously - did you really ask forum members to watch a 40min video? Yeah, Imma gonna get right on that.

Summarizing what the video says in bullet point form and then posting the video for us to agree those points to if we so desire would be a better avenue of success.

Just sayin...
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Seriously - did you really ask forum members to watch a 40min video? Yeah, Imma gonna get right on that.

Summarizing what the video says in bullet point form and then posting the video for us to agree those points to if we so desire would be a better avenue of success.

Just sayin...
Indeed. Says succinct in OP, posts a 40 minute video. SMH.
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The democrat nominee calling roughly half the country deplorable during the campaign didn’t exactly help either.
Is human scum better?
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He got elected because he was the lesser of two evils. People were getting tired of all of the corrupt political BS, the failing economy.......Trump was unlike anything people have seen before.

He may be a horrible speaker, cocky, arrogant, and a goof ball....but it's hard to argue what he's done for the economy, and bringing jobs back to the US. You can't argue with all of the numbers....he's doing a great job.
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He got elected because he was the lesser of two evils. People were getting tired of all of the corrupt political BS, the failing economy.......Trump was unlike anything people have seen before.

He may be a horrible speaker, cocky, arrogant, and a goof ball....but it's hard to argue what he's done for the economy, and bringing jobs back to the US. You can't argue with all of the numbers....he's doing a great job.
This is much more succinct than a 40 minute video. I'm now waiting for certain members to come in and dispute everything you said in the first paragraph and agree with the negative things you said about Mr. Trump. SSDD.
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This is much more succinct than a 40 minute video. I'm now waiting for certain members to come in and dispute everything you said in the first paragraph and agree with the negative things you said about Mr. Trump. SSDD.
Was that my cue?

Show me a direct corelation between Trump "policy" and our current economy.
Which jobs has he "brought back"? I'll wait.

In addition, extorting another country for personal gain, in addition to all the other crap, negates everything else anyway. "horrible speaker, cocky, arrogant, and a goof ball" is being naive..........go for authoritarian narcissist with no ethics and no morals.
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Was that my cue?

Show me a direct corelation between Trump "policy" and our current economy.
Which jobs has he "brought back"? I'll wait.

In addition, extorting another country for personal gain, in addition to all the other crap, negates everything else anyway. "horrible speaker, cocky, arrogant, and a goof ball" is being naive..........go for authoritarian narcissist with no ethics and no morals.
Just like hitting a switch.

Please prove that his policies had nothing to do with the current success, please.
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Just like hitting a switch.

Please prove that his policies had nothing to do with the current success, please.
I asked 1st, captain deflector.
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Was that my cue?

Show me a direct corelation between Trump "policy" and our current economy.
Which jobs has he "brought back"? I'll wait.
Can you say Manufacturing?

Two excerpts from a Forbes article in March 2019. Is Forbes an acceptable source?

President Obama notably said in June 2016 that manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.”

While overall employment numbers are comparable, the difference in manufacturing is profound. In the last 26 months of Obama’s presidency, manufacturing employment grew by 96,000 or 0.8%. In Trump’s first 26 months, manufacturers added 479,000 jobs, or 3.9%, 399% more jobs than Obama’s record.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#62a02c5220a6
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i can tell you how he was elected without watching a 40 minute video.

the left focused too much on minority groups and issues and ignored a large portion of middle america and the working class during the election. Couple that with Obama focusing on the same during his presidency, and you had a large population of people that felt they werent being looked after, and trump capitalized on that. And the cherry on top was putting up an unelectable to many candidate in Hillary and you had a trainwreck waiting to happen.

Unfortunately, the left is going back to this same gameplan to win the 2020 election.
Deplorables and flyover states.
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Deplorables and flyover states.
It's simple priority arithmetic.

(identity politics + virtue signalling) < jobs
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Can you say Manufacturing?

Two excerpts from a Forbes article in March 2019. Is Forbes an acceptable source?

President Obama notably said in June 2016 that manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.”

While overall employment numbers are comparable, the difference in manufacturing is profound. In the last 26 months of Obama’s presidency, manufacturing employment grew by 96,000 or 0.8%. In Trump’s first 26 months, manufacturers added 479,000 jobs, or 3.9%, 399% more jobs than Obama’s record.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#62a02c5220a6
Looks like manufacting has been gaining steadily.......since 1-10-2010.
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES3000000001

And what is Trump's magic wand?
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Looks like manufacting has been gaining steadily.......since 1-10-2010.
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES3000000001

And what is Trump's magic wand?
Did you read the article? Did you read the excerpts?
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Did you read the article? Did you read the excerpts?
I did. Did you see the chart I posted?
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I'm sure things would have been so much better with Hillary as POTUS. Give me a break.......

Trump is a good business man, and skilled at negotiating. And although he's greasy, he's not as greesy as the majority of ALL politicians out there.

Term limits....we need them.
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