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      02-08-2020, 02:06 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by cvstar9M3 View Post
Originally Posted by JeffB-M3 View Post
I don't have ownership experience but found myself in the same boat about a year ago. Drove a RRS with the V6 and it is a special vehicle to drive. Quick steering, comfortable, reasonably sporty, good interior room. I must have done 20-30 hours reading message boards, reviews, and talking to folks I know that have them. There are a few folks that have had excellent experience but there are others that have had their car in the shop for 35 days within the first year of ownership. My opinion: If you have a RR dealer close by that has a good reputation and you don't mind the hassle of it being in the shop -- all while under some variety of a warranty which should include a loaner vehicle -- then go for it. Their CPO warranty is pretty darn good. I didn't pull the trigger on a RRS because the closest dealers are about an hour away. Would have been too much hassle if I wasn't one of the lucky ones that got the RRS with excellent reliability.
Thanks. Why do you like about their CPO? It's 7 years from start of service or 100k miles right?
In my mind that's a pretty good length of time for a CPO warranty. Many manufacturers just add a year to the base warranty with a bump in mileage. But maybe I'm out of touch...
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      02-13-2020, 04:41 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by joshuastein55 View Post
Is it really bias though? He loves the car, but its not like he was forcing the car to break often, it just did.

Regarding independent mechanics, while we enthusiasts may use them, most of the general public will use dealers, thus the costs in the video reflect what most regular owners would pay if those things were to break.
Yes, I would say it was biased because there are significantly less expensive ways to repair the car, but as the goal was to get clicks for his video, he set it up to make the repairs as expensive as possible. Doug Demuro would not have been taking his RR to the dealer for repairs if he was paying out of pocket.

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How Can anyone say there reliability is over exaggerated.
Because I own one and it simply hasn't been my experience that my Rover is any less reliable than any other Euro vehicle. I have a friend with 90k miles on a '15 RRS that hasn't had any major problems. Another friend has a current-gen Disco and has had no problems. My mechanic has an LR3 and an LR4 and has said they're his most reliable cars.

Again, I've had two BMW SUVs that required $50k in repairs to go less than 50k miles total, so it's hilarious to me when someone tells me that I should be worried about my Land Rover.

*My LR3 has been one of the most reliable vehicles I've ever owned.*

Do some research and any person can tell you that they are HORRIBLY unreliable. They consistently rank at the bottom of the list ranking them against every car brand. They are an over priced money/status symbol that has a lot of features that can be had with many other car brands with better reliability. The reason they are still in business is because its a status symbol. 95% of every range rover is a luxury SUV that will never get used in a manner thats its capable of or what it was designed to do. Personally I have 2 friends that have leased land rovers in the last 5 years. Both people filed claims due to being broken in the shops multiple times in the first 3 months after driving a brand new car off the lot. Personally I would stay away. There track record has never been good warranty or not. Its still the frustration of having a broken car.
And Porsche is consistently ranked as one of the most reliable vehicles, yet I still had to pay to have the engine replaced that one time.

I don't care if anyone else buys a RR or not, but the idea that I should be more comfortable buying a BMW with an N63 V8 over a modern RR is funny to me, regardless of what the 'ratings' say.
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      03-06-2020, 06:03 PM   #25
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so... I have driven like 5-6 RRS, both v6s and v8s SC, and I'm definitely going for the V8 at this point. I'm hoping to pull the trigger by May.
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Originally Posted by tooloud10 View Post
Because I own one and it simply hasn't been my experience that my Rover is any less reliable than any other Euro vehicle. I have a friend with 90k miles on a '15 RRS that hasn't had any major problems. Another friend has a current-gen Disco and has had no problems. My mechanic has an LR3 and an LR4 and has said they're his most reliable cars.
You must be the only person to feel this way and have these experiences. The issue isn't so much the presence of big problems, it's ANY problem that requires service. If I have to bring my vehicle to the dealer/shop every 3 months for a simple sensors or switches, that's just as annoying as something that requires substantial work to fix. My impression of LR/RR is that typically it's the stupid stuff that the company can't do right.

I looked into the LR Disco and a Grand Cherokee last year. It was fairly obvious when I spent 30 mins in either forum that the LR was just not the safe bet. Not to say that the GC was perfect or problem free, but the problems I saw weren't things that seemed outrageous or frequent. There are a couple of weak spots in GCs like everything, but nothing like the extensive problems I saw on the forums for the Disco. No thanks.

That's not to say that there aren't LR/RR vehicles that are generally trouble free. It comes down to risk assessment. How likely is it that my LR/RR is going to see the shop more than I am comfortable with? Frankly, the odds point to being much more problematic than I am comfortable with. I mean, I could luck out and have a great vehicle. That just seems less likely to happen.

I lucked out with my corrado and M3, both notoriously problematic vehicles, so maybe I should have gone with the Disco.
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