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      02-04-2020, 01:46 PM   #67
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Apparently Communism is cool now?

I have no words. Who in their right mind can really think that Bernie is the way forward? Shall we recap who Bernie considers(ed) friends of his?

1. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro
2. The Soviet Union
3. Communist Cuba
4. Fidel Castro
5. Daniel Ortega
6. Hugo Chavez
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I being a Trump guy think that a Bernie general election would be hilarious... it would be the most polar opposites available... then if he got won, we would all see how the economy would crumble and we could all say ... told you so.
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I being a Trump guy think that a Bernie general election would be hilarious... it would be the most polar opposites available... then if he got won, we would all see how the economy would crumble and we could all say ... told you so.
I prefer the economy not to crumble to prove I was right. I don't need to be right that badly. It would be funny to see ol' Bernie get his ass whupped, though.
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Apparently Communism is cool now?

I have no words. Who in their right mind can really think that Bernie is the way forward? Shall we recap who Bernie considers(ed) friends of his?

1. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro
2. The Soviet Union
3. Communist Cuba
4. Fidel Castro
5. Daniel Ortega
6. Hugo Chavez
That an unapologetic compadre of ANY of those people - let alone ALL of them - can even be in the running in a Presidential election is a testament to how the Progressive/Neo-Marxist takeover of our schools has eradicated critical thinking entirely...and human decency.
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I being a Trump guy think that a Bernie general election would be hilarious... it would be the most polar opposites available... then if he got won, we would all see how the economy would crumble and we could all say ... told you so.
I prefer the economy not to crumble to prove I was right. I don't need to be right that badly. It would be funny to see ol' Bernie get his ass whupped, though.
The economy will take a nose dive; the question is just when... when you are in the lonngest economic upswing; its just a matter of time... if it doesn't happen; then tons of people will soon be priced out of the housing market, the dow as well as other products with an inflationary status.
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I prefer the economy not to crumble to prove I was right. I don't need to be right that badly. It would be funny to see ol' Bernie get his ass whupped, though.
The economy won’t crumble because Bernie will only have limited control of the executive branch. He apparently has no friends in the senate and won’t get any important legislation through, even if there are a few other idiots in the House. I expect the congress will rein in any egregious exec orders, or the courts.

His policies will be anti-growth, so there might be some slowing and muting of the progress we’ve seen, but I don’t see a depression or anything like that.
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If you listen to the younger folks today, Bernie is the pied piper. He was the anointed one before the DNC rigged the system to get crooked Hiliary in and it cost them dearly. If he can secure the nomination people under 25, minorities, the poor, the sick, etc. will turn out in droves. I feel like the DNC knows this too and will attempt to railroad him again because Bernie is corporate Americas worst nightmare, particularly if you are in the insurance industry or arms trade.
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The economy won’t crumble because Bernie will only have limited control of the executive branch. He apparently has no friends in the senate and won’t get any important legislation through, even if there are a few other idiots in the House. I expect the congress will rein in any egregious exec orders, or the courts.

His policies will be anti-growth, so there might be some slowing and muting of the progress we’ve seen, but I don’t see a depression or anything like that.
The stock market will go down 20% if Bernie is elected. That's ok, though, it kinda needs to slow down a bit.
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...sure hope we can get some video of AOC's head exploding
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The Dimocrats are trying to not break rank, and to present a united front. But oh, to be a fly on the wall on some of the texts and emails and phone calls that are going on behind the scenes today. If you made a drinking game of it and took a bump every time someone said "Fuck" you'd be comatose in about a half-hour.
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Meh. While I have no doubts the DNC has their favorite candidate(s), I find it completely plausible that there were issues with a relatively untested phone-based app for reporting caucus results.

Add in the fact that most polling volunteers I've ever seen probably aren't the most tech-savvy demographic out there...

Allegedly they have a paper trail audit system, so we shall see.
Agreed. It was mostly a tongue in cheek comment. Do I think the DNC conspired to F with the results in Iowa because their main dude wasn't doing well? No, not really. I dont think the nearly bankrupt DNC has that kind of power.
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The Dimocrats are trying to not break rank, and to present a united front. But oh, to be a fly on the wall on some of the texts and emails and phone calls that are going on behind the scenes today. If you made a drinking game of it and took a bump every time someone said "Fuck" you'd be comatose in about a half-hour.
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Agreed. It was mostly a tongue in cheek comment. Do I think the DNC conspired to F with the results in Iowa because their main dude wasn't doing well? No, not really. I dont think the nearly bankrupt DNC has that kind of power.
You would hope that they'd at least come up with a slightly more clandestine method, if nothing else.



We should be getting some indication in another 45 mins, though - unless they've revised the timeline in Iowa.
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If you listen to the younger folks today, Bernie is the pied piper. He was the anointed one before the DNC rigged the system to get crooked Hiliary in and it cost them dearly. If he can secure the nomination people under 25, minorities, the poor, the sick, etc. will turn out in droves. I feel like the DNC knows this too and will attempt to railroad him again because Bernie is corporate Americas worst nightmare, particularly if you are in the insurance industry or arms trade.
He's a nightmare for anyone gainfully employed.
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I'll say one things for Iowans: you'd have a really tough time finding a more ethical and honest bunch. Lots of financial service companies have workforces there, for that very reason. The point being, I don't think they could pull off any wide-scale fuckery unless it's behind-the-scenes data hocus-pocus. If you were to try pull a bunch of the natives into some scam, somebody would squeal. They're a state with 7 pigs for every human, after all.
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I don't know what is going on yet. The reporting has been all over the place. Rather than jump to conclusions I will wait.

I am more annoyed that the process is what it is. But soon we will move on to states that run actual primaries and not this shit show.

I think ranked choice is the best option for a primary. Anything short of that is disappointing. The year is 2020, time we act like it.

A phone app? Really? What the F man.
Its never fun till there's a conspiracy allegation!


This whole incident reminds me of the ACA rollout. Has that been mentioned?
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