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      09-23-2016, 04:29 PM   #45
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Been using an Oculus Rift since the beginning of summer. I sold all of my displays. It's the most amazing driving experience short of being on track in a real car.

Here's my current setup:



The main TV is used to set everything up and mirrors what I see in the rift. Next step for me will be doing 3dof motion. Hopefully before the end of the year.


This setup...is so dope!!!!!


But on a serious note: Is the fan there so that you can feel the wind in your hair while driving??? Cuz if so.....you are my hero.
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This setup...is so dope!!!!!


But on a serious note: Is the fan there so that you can feel the wind in your hair while driving??? Cuz if so.....you are my hero.
No the oculus headset is very warm so your whole face gets really hot. I have 2 fans pointing at my face and it does a good job keeping me cool.
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Been using an Oculus Rift since the beginning of summer. I sold all of my displays. It's the most amazing driving experience short of being on track in a real car.
I'm definitely intrigued by your Oculus Rift setup, very cool! Are you just running Assetto Corsa or do other sims support Rift? Then any recommendations on PC hardware?

Oculus has some announcements today, hoping a price-drop is one of them.
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I'm definitely intrigued by your Oculus Rift setup, very cool! Are you just running Assetto Corsa or do other sims support Rift? Then any recommendations on PC hardware?

Oculus has some announcements today, hoping a price-drop is one of them.
I've bought and spent time in almost all the current gen sims and nothing comes close to Assetto Corsa for me. I don't bother driving in anything else.

If you want to run the oculus for sim racing, you really want a higher end PC with a 980gtx minimum, but preferably a 1080. Being able to run a steady 90fps and a high pixel density is key. High frames because stutters break the immersion and can make you feel sick. High pixel density because the headset resolutions are just barely acceptable to see the next corner down the track. If you have to run a lower pixel density it's almost impossible to judge upcoming corners.
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I've bought and spent time in almost all the current gen sims and nothing comes close to Assetto Corsa for me. I don't bother driving in anything else.

If you want to run the oculus for sim racing, you really want a higher end PC with a 980gtx minimum, but preferably a 1080. Being able to run a steady 90fps and a high pixel density is key. High frames because stutters break the immersion and can make you feel sick. High pixel density because the headset resolutions are just barely acceptable to see the next corner down the track. If you have to run a lower pixel density it's almost impossible to judge upcoming corners.
All great to know, thanks for the info! Seriously thinking about piecing together a setup in the not too distant future. One more question, do you know if COTA is accurate on Assetto Corsa?
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All great to know, thanks for the info! Seriously thinking about piecing together a setup in the not too distant future. One more question, do you know if COTA is accurate on Assetto Corsa?
There's no official COTA in ac so not sure if there's a fan made one and how accurate it would be. Honestly if it isn't laser scanned, then I wouldn't call it accurate for the purposes of really learning the nuances of a track to help you get faster at the real one. All of iracing tracks are laser scanned so that might be your best choice if they have COTA. I know they have most of the major US tracks so lots of pro racers use it to learn tracks they haven't been to yet.
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Any updates on your setup radiantm3 ?

Its fall now and i'm craving some track action. I'm thinking of putting in $1500-2000 into a racing sim rig. What's the ideal combo now (excluding PC/VR).
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yes please tech us you ways, I also want to convince the boss to put two in our waiting room...
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Any updates on your setup radiantm3 ?

Its fall now and i'm craving some track action. I'm thinking of putting in $1500-2000 into a racing sim rig. What's the ideal combo now (excluding PC/VR).
I haven't made any changes to my setup. I'm waiting for new direct drive wheels from Fanatec. I did decide I don't want to bother with a motion setup at this time.

As far as what to get, it's tough because there are so many options out there for different budgets. The most important part for me is having a good wheel and pedals in a sturdy cockpit that has a proper driving position. My only experience is with Fanatec wheels at this point (I went from cheap logitech wheels to various fanatec wheels). The club sport wheel and pedals are very good. I know people who buy thrustmaster wheels and love them, but seems like even those guys buy the fanatec club sport pedals.

There are dozens of cockpits out there and I haven't done research on them in awhile so best to just check online reviews about seating position and sturdiness.

Then you just need a decently spec'd PC especially if you just plan to run on a single screen. I always recommend a 120hz/144hz gaming monitor as they let you run sims really smoothly which helps a lot. TV's tend to have screen tearing or latency, both which really affect your ability to drive well. But its the cheapest route for a large display so just make sure you use a tv that has a "game mode" which turns off all the tv effects that create latency in the video output. With just a slight latency, you won't be able to catch a slide and not be able to figure out why. You'll just feel like you suck at driving sims.
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I haven't made any changes to my setup. I'm waiting for new direct drive wheels from Fanatec. I did decide I don't want to bother with a motion setup at this time.

As far as what to get, it's tough because there are so many options out there for different budgets. The most important part for me is having a good wheel and pedals in a sturdy cockpit that has a proper driving position. My only experience is with Fanatec wheels at this point (I went from cheap logitech wheels to various fanatec wheels). The club sport wheel and pedals are very good. I know people who buy thrustmaster wheels and love them, but seems like even those guys buy the fanatec club sport pedals.

There are dozens of cockpits out there and I haven't done research on them in awhile so best to just check online reviews about seating position and sturdiness.

Then you just need a decently spec'd PC especially if you just plan to run on a single screen. I always recommend a 120hz/144hz gaming monitor as they let you run sims really smoothly which helps a lot. TV's tend to have screen tearing or latency, both which really affect your ability to drive well. But its the cheapest route for a large display so just make sure you use a tv that has a "game mode" which turns off all the tv effects that create latency in the video output. With just a slight latency, you won't be able to catch a slide and not be able to figure out why. You'll just feel like you suck at driving sims.
Thanks bud.

I already have a pretty well spec'd pc that runs my HTC vive and mountains of VR porn. I don't plan to sim with screens as the good ones are expensive and require at least a 3 mon setup for better immersion. I'd rather spend that money on the rig.

I'm thinking if I should go with the Fanatec CSL Elite line or jump straight to the ClubSport line with the V3 inverted pedals. Its about $1k difference.

Since I game on PS4 as well, I was wondering if I should just get the CSL Elite Wheel (PS4), with the CS SQ shifter, and the CS V3 pedals to save some money.

That extra $1k I'll be saving from going with the CS base/bmw wheel, and V3 inverted pedals would allow a bit more money to go into the cockpit. Btw, what cockpit would you recommend? Still RSeat?
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Thanks bud.

I already have a pretty well spec'd pc that runs my HTC vive and mountains of VR porn. I don't plan to sim with screens as the good ones are expensive and require at least a 3 mon setup for better immersion. I'd rather spend that money on the rig.

I'm thinking if I should go with the Fanatec CSL Elite line or jump straight to the ClubSport line with the V3 inverted pedals. Its about $1k difference.

Since I game on PS4 as well, I was wondering if I should just get the CSL Elite Wheel (PS4), with the CS SQ shifter, and the CS V3 pedals to save some money.

That extra $1k I'll be saving from going with the CS base/bmw wheel, and V3 inverted pedals would allow a bit more money to go into the cockpit. Btw, what cockpit would you recommend? Still RSeat?
The CSL Elite might be the way to go if you want to play GT Sport as well and save some cash. The Clubsport line is better, but there's always a balance. I really want to play GT Sport so I might have to buy a separate CSL wheel just to play it.

It's hard for me to strongly recommend any cockpit since I haven't tried very many. The best thing to do is read reviews on some of the popular sim blogs and go from there. I tend to pick cockpits that aren't only functional, but look nice as well which is why I like the RSeat. I have used the first gen R Seat and the pedal mount isn't that strong. It will start to bend if you use a high quality pedal like the club sport V3. Friends say the 2nd gen RSeat solves that, but I haven't tried it yet. There's a lot out there: http://www.isrtv.com/category/sim-racing-chassis/
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I got the Obutto Ozone but I'm setting it up once I move into my new place. Friend of mine has it and recommended it. Good entry price

radiantm3 are you still using VR? I played with my rift and its an amazing experience but i keep seeing the lines of resolution which kinda bothers me. On the new rig I will just have a single monitor to start my games and then run VR exclusively.
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I got the Obutto Ozone but I'm setting it up once I move into my new place. Friend of mine has it and recommended it. Good entry price

radiantm3 are you still using VR? I played with my rift and its an amazing experience but i keep seeing the lines of resolution which kinda bothers me. On the new rig I will just have a single monitor to start my games and then run VR exclusively.
Yea I can’t go back to monitors. Being able to see true depth of field makes a huge difference for me. Depending on what game you are playing you may need to increase the pixel density to truly utilize the max resolution of the headset. In AC you have to edit a config file to increase the density. Makes it a lot more crisp and easier to see upcoming corners further away.
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Nice setup, OP! I was torn between the Fanatec rig and the Humanracing chassis at one point, but since I want to add motion, the HR was the best bet. I've never used mine for anything but iRacing, until last year I went ahead with Assetto Corsa (great Sim, more fun imo, but less serious and competitive than iRacing). Recently joined the "Race Room Italia" club, too and it's fantastic so far.

Here's my current setup, waiting for next wave of the Rift to make the jump to VR, but will still run the screens for longer races I think, especially 2 hours endurance races, I think it'll be a lot more comfortable..

Human Racing GT full motion rig chassis (no motion, yet..a cool $10k more) full fiberglass shell with aluminum core to translate vibes and forces better throughout.
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A lot of great info here. Thanks everyone.

Decided to go with the following:
Fanatec CS Shifter SQ
Fanatec CS Pedals V3
Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel (PS4) available Nov 8
Simetik K2 Cockpit (no seat) + shifter bracket

Seems like the Simetik K2 is a solid rig at a very reasonable price. I was looking at the RSeat N1 (no seat) but I read reviews that it was starting to break apart somewhere. Price is close to double as well. I've got a great full carbon Ferrari bucket off a Ferrari challenge race car that will go great with the setup. Problem is, I think I might go with a motion setup in the future and I'm not sure if the Simetik K2 can fit something like a Next Level Racing motion platform V3 that I know the Rseat N1 has a way around it.

I've been contemplating the CSL Elite wheel (PS4) or getting the CS wheel base V2.5 and adding on a BMW wheel but that seems like a huge price difference. Being that this is my first rig and first attempt into a dedicated sim racing setup, I think I should take it easy and not go balls out yet. I just want to get the full experience with VR and full rig. If I love it, I'll wait for the direct drive from Fanatec.

Any suggestions guys?
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A lot of great info here. Thanks everyone.

Decided to go with the following:
Fanatec CS Shifter SQ
Fanatec CS Pedals V3
Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel (PS4) available Nov 8
Simetik K2 Cockpit (no seat) + shifter bracket

Seems like the Simetik K2 is a solid rig at a very reasonable price. I was looking at the RSeat N1 (no seat) but I read reviews that it was starting to break apart somewhere. Price is close to double as well. I've got a great full carbon Ferrari bucket off a Ferrari challenge race car that will go great with the setup. Problem is, I think I might go with a motion setup in the future and I'm not sure if the Simetik K2 can fit something like a Next Level Racing motion platform V3 that I know the Rseat N1 has a way around it.

I've been contemplating the CSL Elite wheel (PS4) or getting the CS wheel base V2.5 and adding on a BMW wheel but that seems like a huge price difference. Being that this is my first rig and first attempt into a dedicated sim racing setup, I think I should take it easy and not go balls out yet. I just want to get the full experience with VR and full rig. If I love it, I'll wait for the direct drive from Fanatec.

Any suggestions guys?
I'm taking baby steps. I got a G29 brand new for $200 ($350 normally) and my rig used for $400. I've been playing almost daily for the past 5-6 months and enjoying it a lot with just a wheel stand from amazon ($200).

Moving to a new and bigger place nov/dec and then I will setup my full rig. After that i'll see what my next move is. What I paid for my setup so far is basically what I can sell it for. I need a powerful pc for work so I don't consider that in the sim purchase for me. (Currently I7-7700k, GTX 1080)
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Damn, some of you have really clean set ups. I only have a G29 and use my 34" ultrawide screen as my display, but I rarely game. I found out I'm not too keen on virtual racing and much prefer the real thing. Trying to see if I should get back into it now that PC2 and F7 is out.
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A lot of great info here. Thanks everyone.

Decided to go with the following:
Fanatec CS Shifter SQ
Fanatec CS Pedals V3
Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel (PS4) available Nov 8
Simetik K2 Cockpit (no seat) + shifter bracket

Seems like the Simetik K2 is a solid rig at a very reasonable price. I was looking at the RSeat N1 (no seat) but I read reviews that it was starting to break apart somewhere. Price is close to double as well. I've got a great full carbon Ferrari bucket off a Ferrari challenge race car that will go great with the setup. Problem is, I think I might go with a motion setup in the future and I'm not sure if the Simetik K2 can fit something like a Next Level Racing motion platform V3 that I know the Rseat N1 has a way around it.

I've been contemplating the CSL Elite wheel (PS4) or getting the CS wheel base V2.5 and adding on a BMW wheel but that seems like a huge price difference. Being that this is my first rig and first attempt into a dedicated sim racing setup, I think I should take it easy and not go balls out yet. I just want to get the full experience with VR and full rig. If I love it, I'll wait for the direct drive from Fanatec.

Any suggestions guys?
I've had the CSR Elite, which was basically a V1, then went to V1, now V2.5 and honestly, the feedback quality has improved, 10 fold.. I can race far more consistantly for 1-2 hour races, as well, the feedback is incredible once it's dialed in, you really feel feel the difference in performance.

If I were to cut costs anywhere, I'd say hold off on the shifter, and get a set of v2.5 pedals or even used, they really don't go bad, just the load sensors.. But don't skimp out on the wheel base, it's everything, second to a monitor setup or VR.. Just my $.02 And if you were wanting Direct Drive, you should look at SimExperience, great company to deal with. I have their SimVibe setup and it works flawlessly.


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Damn, some of you have really clean set ups. I only have a G29 and use my 34" ultrawide screen as my display, but I rarely game. I found out I'm not too keen on virtual racing and much prefer the real thing. Trying to see if I should get back into it now that PC2 and F7 is out.
Like you, I'm a track junkie. Full track build happening on my 2er this winter (KW clubsport 3 ways, F&R sways/adk links, full bushing replacement, 18x9sq., Megan Racing 4 link rear end, all that jazz)

Problem with those "games" is that they don't regulate points or have effective safety ratings to keep you in similar skill levels as your competitors, like how it's done in iRacing, so it gets very frustrating when you can't finish a race due to "those guys" who like to just try and win every race, thus making it hard to be keen to get back on and try again. If you were to get into Sim Racing, for the "simulation" factor, iRacing, AC (pc), Race Room and rFactor2 are the only REAL sims out there, in my opinion..

iRacing has license classes, real sanctioned Mazda Cup (rookie class and advanced), NASCAR, IMSA, Porsche Cup, TDI Jetta Cup, Blancpain Sprint/Endurance series, and of course, Formula 1 in the MP4-30. And the track detail is best in class, bumps/cracks etc.. I know it's an expensive route, but it has the best physics engine of any sim software, and is the only way to get into higher levels of competition racing, online. You'll find some real world race drivers in there quite often, which is pretty neat. And they lap FAST, wow.. I'm only "B" licensed and I've been chipping away at things on a very part time basis for 3+ years. It's difficult to become an "A" licensed driver, but I will soon be there and will be able to compete in the pro races, with really good (clean) racers who respect each other. Racing incidents will happen, still
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^ I've yet to experience anything like that. I tend to get bored of games really quickly so I just don't know if I want to invest in something that I know I won't play for too long. I wish I can try out some of these things in person before diving head first myself. Unfortunately, I don't know anybody who's into sim racing with a legit set up local to me.
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^ I've yet to experience anything like that. I tend to get bored of games really quickly so I just don't know if I want to invest in something that I know I won't play for too long. I wish I can try out some of these things in person before diving head first myself. Unfortunately, I don't know anybody who's into sim racing with a legit set up local to me.
Yea I was in the same boat, fell into it via youtube vids and a lot of research in the insidesimracing.com forums. I also get sick of games, but this is a serious platform, with serious members, no online gamer BS. It's also very realistic, and will absolutely make you a faster driver at the track, especially if you can practice on iRacing on a real home track. Mosport, for me (now Canadian Tire Motorsports Park) was my home track, which when I drove on that track in the sim for the first time, I could feel all of the real bumps and dips that I remember from my days spent, there. Or now Laguna Seca since I moved to the west coast, which I have yet to drive in real life, but have 100's of hours of sim racing experience on that track. I'm confident next year that I can put down a respectable time when I head down for an HPDE event.

From the videos out there, you can see how competitive it is, and how well it's put together. Graphics, physics, and platform is the best out there at the moment. All you really need is a PC rig, Rift, Wheel base and pedals and you're set to start off. Race seat rigs are great and all, but starts to add up $$ quickly. I was going to use my office chair and desk at first, but bit the bullet instead. No regrets, though

Vid of said realism, with a real world pro driver testing in a sim race on iRacing for the first time. Once you try it, console racing seems very "game" like

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Dylan86 - Just curious, how much did your set up (minus PC, Rift, and displays) cost you?
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Damn, some of you have really clean set ups. I only have a G29 and use my 34" ultrawide screen as my display, but I rarely game. I found out I'm not too keen on virtual racing and much prefer the real thing. Trying to see if I should get back into it now that PC2 and F7 is out.
Racing sims always felt like "video games" until I bought a quality wheel/pedal setup. It makes a HUGE difference. Those Logitech wheels are better than a controller, but they feel like complete toys compared to mid-high end wheels. I spend a LOT of time on track in real life and still spend a lot of time in sims because aside from G forces, and fear of crashing in real life, driving feel is almost identical (especially in VR). Of course the real thing is always going to be better, but most of my free time is after hours when my kids are sleeping and I can't get to the track at those times.
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