[Stein]

Mine has got all three now, originally just the airbag one.

There is an open technical improvement to this vehicle. Please book an appointment online for your vehicle here by selecting "Service as needed", or contact your local BMW service partner here for more information. Callback codes: STOP024882, 0065230400, STOP024880

[walketed]

Originally Posted by pixelate

Just re-checked my in-transit M60i build and there's a 2nd code on it now.

0065230400, STOP024880

The STOP024880 code was there when I first checked after seeing some thread here. The 0065230400 must have been added in the last couple of days.

One is for the tank leaks and the other is iDrive 8.5

The problem is that there's no solution for the tank leak yet.

[roamio]

I'm just curious what is it - "Diagnostic Module for Tank Leaks"? Is it some kind of sensor in gas tank?

[aaaaaaaaaz]

Originally Posted by roamio

I'm just curious what is it - "Diagnostic Module for Tank Leaks"? Is it some kind of sensor in gas tank?

Could be sensor, or more likely software/ algorithm analysing the signal and trigger alert

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

I remember back in 11/2020, there was a stop sale tank ventilation notice that was out for the 2021 X5M and X6M's. My factory ordered X5M arrived at the dealer a day later and the S/A mentioned the stop sale order. But it was just a S/W update performed during the PDI and I picked the car up the next day.
Hopefully it's a similar situation for many of you this time.

For 2020 tank ventilation issue, it was not just software. The vent valve of the gas tank needs to be replaced. ICE car's gas tank is also sealed and when the ICE is off. When ICE is on, vent open to let fume out to intake, and get burn. As far as I know, that vent valve cannot open when the ICE is on, so pressure in tank cannot be released

[aaaaaaaaaz]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

For 2020 tank ventilation issue, it was not just software. The vent valve of the gas tank needs to be replaced. ICE car's gas tank is also sealed and when the ICE is off. When ICE is on, vent open to let fume out to intake, and get burn. As far as I know, that vent valve cannot open when the ICE is on, so pressure in tank cannot be released

Can you share the exact name of the issue back then - was it on the tank itself or diagnostic module?

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by alanzyy

Can you share the exact name of the issue back then - was it on the tank itself or diagnostic module?

let me dig a bit. I saw that long time ago

[joeruby1]

Have a X5 M60i and dealer said there is a stop sale with no firther details to provide: 240128 - STOP SALE. Anyone with details on this one?

[nicosusername]

My XM has been sitting at the port for a month now, just to find out today that it's been affected by this recall (STOP024882), and from what I've been reading - sounds like it's not gonna be sent to the dealer any time soon. Subscribing to this thread for any updates.

[CAtoMA]

Maybe someone has answered this but I am not sure. If I am to read "STOP024882 Recall: Diagnostic Module for Tank Leaks" at face value, I interpret it as a part (or software, or both) that exists to detect tank leaks.

I have this code. Given that my X5 50e is brand new and I am not losing gas by any indication (tank mysteriously depleting overnight, no puddles, etc.), I don't see the issue with driving the car? I'd expect leaks later into the car's life, statistically speaking, and any leak now would be extremely rare, so detecting something that isn't happening is a... non-issue.

Is this the right way to think about it?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by CAtoMA

Maybe someone has answered this but I am not sure. If I am to read "STOP024882 Recall: Diagnostic Module for Tank Leaks" at face value, I interpret it as a part (or software, or both) that exists to detect tank leaks.

I have this code. Given that my X5 50e is brand new and I am not losing gas by any indication (tank mysteriously depleting overnight, no puddles, etc.), I don't see the issue with driving the car? I'd expect leaks later into the car's life, statistically speaking, and any leak now would be extremely rare, so detecting something that isn't happening is a... non-issue.

Is this the right way to think about it?

You will be contacted by BMW to bring it in for service but until then it seems like driving it is not an issue.

[CAtoMA]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

You will be contacted by BMW to bring it in for service but until then it seems like driving it is not an issue.

This much has been clear, but what is not clear is the *reason* for driving it being a non-issue, which was the basis for the question.

There seems to be a logical disconnect between "stop sale" and "okay to drive," though that could be due to basic liability worries in the infinitesimally small chance the newly sold car did have a fuel leak (and BMW knew about the defect).

If I am understanding the issue correctly based on the limited info, seems like this is much ado about nothing.

Makes me wonder how we all survived before sensors to tell us if our tanks were leaking /s.

[jad03060]

FWIW, to sell a new vehicle, it must meet all of the federally mandated requirements. I do not know if that applies to the leak detection defect, but if it does, is a valid reason to not deliver a new vehicle until it is brought into compliance...now, if it has already been delivered, they're still required to fix it, but depending on the safety impacts, they may not request you park it until it's fixed. It seems most of this is about liability and compliance. Nobody likes their new toys delayed, or taken away from them, and businesses don't stay in business if they can't satisfy their customers, so one has to believe people are working on a resolution.

[LDT]

Originally Posted by CAtoMA

This much has been clear, but what is not clear is the *reason* for driving it being a non-issue, which was the basis for the question.

There seems to be a logical disconnect between "stop sale" and "okay to drive," though that could be due to basic liability worries in the infinitesimally small chance the newly sold car did have a fuel leak (and BMW knew about the defect).

If I am understanding the issue correctly based on the limited info, seems like this is much ado about nothing.

Makes me wonder how we all survived before sensors to tell us if our tanks were leaking /s.

Bottom line….effing computers!

[walketed]

Originally Posted by LDT

Bottom line….effing computers!

Computers are not the problem... effing programmers!

[clshiX550e]

This is the full BMW Bulletin on STOP DELIVERY of all NEW / used of noted models within the specified timeframe.

There is potential failure of diagnostic module for tank leak - all specified NEW cars in the timeframe must undergo inspection before release to customers. I was supposed to pick up today but was notified in time to wait for inspection results by mid week of 07/17.

Fingers crossed - not impacted as a result. Will update next week!

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by clshiX550e

This is the full BMW Bulletin on STOP DELIVERY of all NEW / used of noted models within the specified timeframe.

There is potential fuel tank leak - all specified NEW cars in the timeframe must undergo inspection before release to customers. I was supposed to pick up today but was notified in time to wait for inspection results by mid week of 07/17.

Fingers crossed - not impacted as a result. Will update next week!

Thanks for the info but the problem is not that there is a potential tank leak but rather that the DMTL may not be operating properly.

[clshiX550e]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Thanks for the info but the problem is not that there is a potential tank leak but rather that the DMTL may not be operating properly.

TY! Clarified in my original post. Unclear if there’s definitively a failure of DMTL or subject to inspection to find out, as the notice is worded in the last paragraph “until the vehicle is repaired”

[eelnoraa]

I think this make sense. For x5, it isn’t unique to 50e, and 40i tank and 50e tank are different, so unlikely both tanks leaks. More likely some kind of sensor related issue.

[clshiX550e]

While it sucks a brand new car (85k) to have such a issue, I’m also curious about how big of a technical deal is this potential malfunction of DMTL? Any technician out there who can provide your insight????? How complex is it to repair or replace????

[TurtleBoy]

I'm not a technician but my understanding is that it is part of the emissions control system and it going bad will have no effect on performance.

It should be a fairly simple job to replace it, there are numerous DIY videos, not for a G05 though.

[jad03060]

As an aside, way back when I owned an Audi A6. It was a new generation model, first year. It had a fuel tank level sensor issue...it took two replacements of successively 'improved' versions before they figured out how to make one that would work with the US fuel. The issue was that US fuel versus what was allowed in Germany and most of Europe, allowed a higher sulfur content. That caused the sensors to fail due to corrosion. They ended up having to use gold contacts on the thing to make it work after multiple redesigns.

Then, throw in that the supply chain issues still aren't fully resolved, it can be hard to source reliable parts with timely delivery.