Premature wear on front tires 22"

Ringo2712 · 11-14-2019, 11:54 AM

was wondering if anyone has experienced premature wear on front 22" Continental tires?

My car is only 10K kms and the tires have worn about half of the tread and also show excessive wear on the top of the sidewalls.

Any input is greatly appreciated

VTENGR · 11-14-2019, 01:06 PM

It's going to be hard to gauge whether or not this is excessive. So much of this depends on driving style. If you routinely take turns at 70 km/h, you're going to see those tires wear a lot faster.

With that being said, 10k km at 50% wear does seem pretty excessive. I would guess with UHP summer tires you should get at least 20k miles, or 33k km.

babyghost · 11-14-2019, 06:39 PM

Ringo2712 · 11-15-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by babyghost

will do

Ringo2712 · 11-16-2019, 09:19 AM

Here are some pics

Kief · 11-16-2019, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringo2712

Here are some pics

What psi are you running?
Ever require an alignment?

skullman · 11-16-2019, 09:44 AM

I replaced mine at 16k and they appeared just the same. I did not put Continentals back on though, went with the Pirelli P Zero's. The ride quality and handling is much better. Plus the Pirelli's also have a tire bead that somewhat protects the wheel.

Auricom · 11-16-2019, 10:15 AM

I'd have an alignment check - definitely looks like to much positive camber. It's odd how much the shoulder treads is raised compared to the middle.

randybobandy · 11-16-2019, 10:37 AM

Are those pictures of the same tire or left and right?

Ringo2712 · 11-16-2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by randybobandy

Are those pictures of the same tire or left and right?

same tire but both are the same

Ringo2712 · 11-16-2019, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Auricom

I'd have an alignment check - definitely looks like to much positive camber. It's odd how much the shoulder treads is raised compared to the middle.

Checked it at the dealer two months ago and according to them was OK....will take it this week again to re check it and Ill be there jus to double check.

Still doesn't make any sense that it should be out with only 10K kms and given the fact that I only drive on paved roads and very carefully. Unless it came unaligned from the factory.

But you know, as usual the dealer says the wear is normal.

Will update after I put it on the alignment bench next week.

Ringo2712 · 11-16-2019, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kief

What psi are you running?
Ever require an alignment?

35 front
37 rear

bono · 11-17-2019, 01:15 AM

Of course it could come unaligned from the factory. I would not trust dealer to do / check alignment. BMW specs are very wide. Do your research what the target specs are and go to reputable shop with proper equipment.

babyghost · 11-18-2019, 07:12 PM

That doesn't look right if it's just 10k km. If the pressure is ok then you should check alignment. Do you usually corner aggressively?

AndroidRobot · 11-18-2019, 07:24 PM

I drive pretty damn hard and my tires have 0 abnormal wear. I don't have 22's just the baby 21's I'll take pics when I get back home later this week

Ringo2712 · 11-21-2019, 11:11 AM

UPDATE!

just came from the dealer and put it on the alignment bench and all measurements are OK within limits.

Can anyone with 22's tell me what psi's are you using on the tires.

According to the door plate it should use 32 in the fronts and 34 on the backs with light loads which seems too low to me and that will worsen the wear on the front tires shoulders.

Appreciate any inputs on the tire pressures and how the wear is behaving on the fronts

Kief · 11-21-2019, 11:22 AM

We've been debating the ideal 22" psi for low load (driver/passenger) over in the wheel/tire subforum.

39/45 (albeit full load, up to 100. Our door sticker/manual doesn't provide a psi for low load) is what is recommended for my US-spec 2020 M50i, which I find is too high, but I have yet to lower it. Was thinking of going 36/42

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1669914

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1668176

Ringo2712 · 11-21-2019, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kief

We've been debating the ideal 22" psi for low load (driver/passenger) over in the wheel/tire subforum.

39/45 (albeit full load, up to 100. Our door sticker/manual doesn't provide a psi for low load) is what is recommended for my US-spec 2020 M50i, which I find is too high, but I have yet to lower it. Was thinking of going 36/42

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1669914

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1668176

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'm gonna go with 35/37 which is kind of midway between low and high load recommended on the door sticker cause I think 32/32 is too low

Ringo2712 · 11-21-2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kief

We've been debating the ideal 22" psi for low load (driver/passenger) over in the wheel/tire subforum.

39/45 (albeit full load, up to 100. Our door sticker/manual doesn't provide a psi for low load) is what is recommended for my US-spec 2020 M50i, which I find is too high, but I have yet to lower it. Was thinking of going 36/42

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1669914

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1668176

This is getting more confusing as I keep on reading. having an issue of excessive wear on the fronts shoulders, alignment is OK and the dealer and door sticker say to put 32 on the fronts. I think that is too low and may be the cause for the wear. Don't know what to do

Kief · 11-21-2019, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ringo2712

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kief

What psi are you running?
Ever require an alignment?

35 front
37 rear

I thought you were already running 35/37 and still ended up with that front wear?

Ringo2712 · 11-22-2019, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kief

I thought you were already running 35/37 and still ended up with that front wear?

yes I was but the door sticker and the dealer say 32 in the fronts with light load.

VTENGR · 11-22-2019, 08:19 AM

I can't imagine the difference between running 32 and 35 would cause this extreme wear. When tires are under inflated you see excess wear on the outside treads, but on both sides (inside and outside). Is that the case for you? I always thought this type of wear happens when tires are severely under inflated - like running 25 PSI for a long time.

I'm running 20" Contis on my ML and have them at or close to 40psi - tire shows 50psi max.

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bono Lieutenant 277 Rep 564 Posts Drives: BMW X5d Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Of course it could come unaligned from the factory. I would not trust dealer to do / check alignment. BMW specs are very wide. Do your research what the target specs are and go to reputable shop with proper equipment.
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Ringo2712 Private 20 Rep 62 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 40i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Panama iTrader: (0)	UPDATE! just came from the dealer and put it on the alignment bench and all measurements are OK within limits. Can anyone with 22's tell me what psi's are you using on the tires. According to the door plate it should use 32 in the fronts and 34 on the backs with light loads which seems too low to me and that will worsen the wear on the front tires shoulders. Appreciate any inputs on the tire pressures and how the wear is behaving on the fronts
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VTENGR Lieutenant Colonel 1051 Rep 1,951 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50i Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (1)	I can't imagine the difference between running 32 and 35 would cause this extreme wear. When tires are under inflated you see excess wear on the outside treads, but on both sides (inside and outside). Is that the case for you? I always thought this type of wear happens when tires are severely under inflated - like running 25 PSI for a long time. I'm running 20" Contis on my ML and have them at or close to 40psi - tire shows 50psi max.
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