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Just got my X5 back, on top of a couple external things they did some software updates that "were recommended"

I have noticed that when I go to the driving modes in the idrive, there is Individual and Eco in a list style view, it used to be 4 modes in a horizontal graphic view.

When i push the the different driving mode buttons on the console there is no visual indication that the mode is changing....!

Anyone else see this? Know what this is?

FYI - I have coded some stuff with Bimmercode....anything in there I may have altered not knowing?
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Just got my X5 back, on top of a couple external things they did some software updates that "were recommended"

I have noticed that when I go to the driving modes in the idrive, there is Individual and Eco in a list style view, it used to be 4 modes in a horizontal graphic view.

When i push the the different driving mode buttons on the console there is no visual indication that the mode is changing....!

Anyone else see this? Know what this is?

FYI - I have coded some stuff with Bimmercode....anything in there I may have altered not knowing?
If you're talking about what I think you're talking about then that setting in the menu is to change the settings for those modes but not to select the driving mode. You still have to do that with the select buttons on the center console.
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Just got my X5 back, on top of a couple external things they did some software updates that "were recommended"

I have noticed that when I go to the driving modes in the idrive, there is Individual and Eco in a list style view, it used to be 4 modes in a horizontal graphic view.

When i push the the different driving mode buttons on the console there is no visual indication that the mode is changing....!

Anyone else see this? Know what this is?

FYI - I have coded some stuff with Bimmercode....anything in there I may have altered not knowing?
If you're talking about what I think you're talking about then that setting in the menu is to change the settings for those modes but not to select the driving mode. You still have to do that with the select buttons on the center console.

Yes. What is interesting is that when I select a mode nothing comes up on the screen, I can see the dash color change a bit but that is it

I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?

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I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?
Yes, M dash layout is missing indication of driving mode. Discussed many times.

I am all for holding BMW 100% accountable for their bugs. But we have to be extremely careful to NEVER blame them for something related to our coding change. I am glad you correlated it, but anyone that codes, you have that complete responsibility.
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I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?
Yes, M dash layout is missing indication of driving mode. Discussed many times.

I am all for holding BMW 100% accountable for their bugs. But we have to be extremely careful to NEVER blame them for something related to our coding change. I am glad you correlated it, but anyone that codes, you have that complete responsibility.
That explains it then.

After the software update it does not come up on the nav screen what mode you moved to?
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I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?
Yes, M dash layout is missing indication of driving mode. Discussed many times.

I am all for holding BMW 100% accountable for their bugs. But we have to be extremely careful to NEVER blame them for something related to our coding change. I am glad you correlated it, but anyone that codes, you have that complete responsibility.
That explains it then.

After the software update it does not come up on the nav screen what mode you moved to?
I have immediately become partial to Alpina dash.

Mine is going in for 11/2019.35 on Tue, so we'll see what that brings. I'll be restoring all coding to stock this weekend to eliminate any bug "friction" between stock and coded and to start 11/2019.35 with a clean slate.
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I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?
Yes, M dash layout is missing indication of driving mode. Discussed many times.

I am all for holding BMW 100% accountable for their bugs. But we have to be extremely careful to NEVER blame them for something related to our coding change. I am glad you correlated it, but anyone that codes, you have that complete responsibility.
That explains it then.

After the software update it does not come up on the nav screen what mode you moved to?
I have immediately become partial to Alpina dash.

Mine is going in for 11/2019.35 on Tue, so we'll see what that brings. I'll be restoring all coding to stock this weekend to eliminate any bug "friction" between stock and coded and to start 11/2019.35 with a clean slate.

Does Alpina show the drive mode?
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Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
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that's why i'd stay with normal bmw layout or alpina. you will also lose the tach in HUD on m layout. i'm wondering if you can code driving modes as well as tach back in on m layout though...
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I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?
Yes, M dash layout is missing indication of driving mode. Discussed many times.

I am all for holding BMW 100% accountable for their bugs. But we have to be extremely careful to NEVER blame them for something related to our coding change. I am glad you correlated it, but anyone that codes, you have that complete responsibility.
That explains it then.

After the software update it does not come up on the nav screen what mode you moved to?
I have immediately become partial to Alpina dash.

Mine is going in for 11/2019.35 on Tue, so we'll see what that brings. I'll be restoring all coding to stock this weekend to eliminate any bug "friction" between stock and coded and to start 11/2019.35 with a clean slate.

Does Alpina show the drive mode?
Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
Awesome - giving it a shot!

Another question, does bimmercode have the ability to make the daytime leds brighter?
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I also changed the instrument cluster to M layout....wonder if that disabled seeing the driving mode?
Yes, M dash layout is missing indication of driving mode. Discussed many times.

I am all for holding BMW 100% accountable for their bugs. But we have to be extremely careful to NEVER blame them for something related to our coding change. I am glad you correlated it, but anyone that codes, you have that complete responsibility.
That explains it then.

After the software update it does not come up on the nav screen what mode you moved to?
I have immediately become partial to Alpina dash.

Mine is going in for 11/2019.35 on Tue, so we'll see what that brings. I'll be restoring all coding to stock this weekend to eliminate any bug "friction" between stock and coded and to start 11/2019.35 with a clean slate.
I wish I was more organized. I don't think I could code everything back to default without recreating cafd files from FA.
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I wish I was more organized. I don't think I could code everything back to default without recreating cafd files from FA.
With the engine running just select all ECU that have cafd (except DME) and do Code.

Then sit back and wait. It will be back at the default for that i-step based on the currently written FA.

Getting back to the previous coding state is another matter. No 'safe' short-cut for that after a major i-step update.
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Mine is going in for 11/2019.35 on Tue, so we'll see what that brings. I'll be restoring all coding to stock this weekend to eliminate any bug "friction" between stock and coded and to start 11/2019.35 with a clean slate.
Restoring to stock is always good practise prior to a dealer visit, but the i-step upgrade will Code each flashed ECU based on the new i-step, written FA, and your car build-level, so your FDL coding will be wiped either way.
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Mine is going in for 11/2019.35 on Tue, so we'll see what that brings. I'll be restoring all coding to stock this weekend to eliminate any bug "friction" between stock and coded and to start 11/2019.35 with a clean slate.
Restoring to stock is always good practise prior to a dealer visit, but the i-step upgrade will Code each flashed ECU based on the new i-step, written FA, and your car build-level, so your FDL coding will be wiped either way.
I don't think that is guaranteed (not every ECU will be updated on each update), but likely. But as I know you do, I'd like to promote Coding Code of Responsibility and Best Practice and restoring to stock before dealer visit or bug reporting is part of that.
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I don't think that is guaranteed (not every ECU will be updated on each update), but likely. But as I know you do, I'd like to promote Coding Code of Responsibility and Best Practice and restoring to stock before dealer visit or bug reporting is part of that.
Yeah, probably worth comparing your SVT pre and post upgrade to determine what's changed (cafd, swfl).

The interesting commonly coded ECU (HU, KOMBI, SAS, BDC, KAFAS) always seem to get flashed, and a later version of cafd are required to code.
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Does Alpina show the drive mode?
Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
So, with the Alpina you lose the tac and speed digits?

When I cycle the BC button to turn them on, they go off 10 seconds later...normal? Something I am doing wrong?
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Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
So, with the Alpina you lose the tac and speed digits?

When I cycle the BC button to turn them on, they go off 10 seconds later...normal? Something I am doing wrong?
Not for me. Not sure what's going on on yours, but you might want to reboot iDrive and then might want to restore stock coding from backup, verify everything, and start again.

Only known non-trivial problem with Alpina dash is speedometer needle miscalibration against the dial on some ISTEP versions including my 3/2019.45 version; some later versions appear to be fine even then. There is also a small blue background come-and-go bug on my version that others don't observe, but it is of completely trivial impact.
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Does Alpina show the drive mode?
Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
So, with the Alpina you lose the tac and speed digits?

When I cycle the BC button to turn them on, they go off 10 seconds later...normal? Something I am doing wrong?
Not for me. Not sure what's going on on yours, but you might want to reboot iDrive and then might want to restore stock coding from backup, verify everything, and start again.

Only known non-trivial problem with Alpina dash is speedometer needle miscalibration against the dial on some ISTEP versions including my 3/2019.45 version; some later versions appear to be fine even then. There is also a small blue background come-and-go bug on my version that others don't observe, but it is of completely trivial impact.

I will give that a try
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Does Alpina show the drive mode?
Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
So, with the Alpina you lose the tac and speed digits?

When I cycle the BC button to turn them on, they go off 10 seconds later...normal? Something I am doing wrong?
Not for me. Not sure what's going on on yours, but you might want to reboot iDrive and then might want to restore stock coding from backup, verify everything, and start again.

Only known non-trivial problem with Alpina dash is speedometer needle miscalibration against the dial on some ISTEP versions including my 3/2019.45 version; some later versions appear to be fine even then. There is also a small blue background come-and-go bug on my version that others don't observe, but it is of completely trivial impact.

I will give that a try
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Does Alpina show the drive mode?
Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
So, with the Alpina you lose the tac and speed digits?

When I cycle the BC button to turn them on, they go off 10 seconds later...normal? Something I am doing wrong?
Not for me. Not sure what's going on on yours, but you might want to reboot iDrive and then might want to restore stock coding from backup, verify everything, and start again.

Only known non-trivial problem with Alpina dash is speedometer needle miscalibration against the dial on some ISTEP versions including my 3/2019.45 version; some later versions appear to be fine even then. There is also a small blue background come-and-go bug on my version that others don't observe, but it is of completely trivial impact.

I will give that a try
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Figured it out. I had the "reduced mode" on. Turn that off and she's good to go!
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Does Alpina show the drive mode?
Yes, one of the reasons I am partial to it :-).
So, with the Alpina you lose the tac and speed digits?

When I cycle the BC button to turn them on, they go off 10 seconds later...normal? Something I am doing wrong?
Not for me. Not sure what's going on on yours, but you might want to reboot iDrive and then might want to restore stock coding from backup, verify everything, and start again.

Only known non-trivial problem with Alpina dash is speedometer needle miscalibration against the dial on some ISTEP versions including my 3/2019.45 version; some later versions appear to be fine even then. There is also a small blue background come-and-go bug on my version that others don't observe, but it is of completely trivial impact.

I will give that a try
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Figured it out. I had the "reduced mode" on. Turn that off and she's good to go!
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