[Kief]

Just don't you boys accidentally ever go and drive an X5M...it's a disease, I tell you!! Last month, I came from a 2018 X5M (my wife's car) to an M50i w/DHP. My wife never took advantage of the beast of the X5M (I'm the car nut!). At first, I test drove an M50i with no-season tires and no DHP and was underwhelmed. Was going to just keep the X5M, but then was able to eventually test drive an M50i with 22" and DHP and thought it would be an excellent compromise for my wife and I.

Honestly, if BMW would increase the 40i hp as in other series with the same engine, add DHP, and M performance exhaust, the 40i would be great for us!

[teefive]

Originally Posted by Kief

Just don't you boys accidentally ever go and drive an X5M...it's a disease, I tell you!! Last month, I came from a 2018 X5M (my wife's car) to an M50i w/DHP. My wife never took advantage of the beast of the X5M (I'm the car nut!). At first, I test drove an M50i with no-season tires and no DHP and was underwhelmed. Was going to just keep the X5M, but then was able to eventually test drive an M50i with 22" and DHP and thought it would be an excellent compromise for my wife and I.

Honestly, if BMW would increase the 40i hp as in other series with the same engine, add DHP, and M performance exhaust, the 40i would be great for us!

I already ordered a Dinantronics Sport for my 40i. Apparently adds about 40hp. Will report back once I get it installed.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Kief

Just don't you boys accidentally ever go and drive an X5M...it's a disease, I tell you!! Last month, I came from a 2018 X5M (my wife's car) to an M50i w/DHP. My wife never took advantage of the beast of the X5M (I'm the car nut!). At first, I test drove an M50i with no-season tires and no DHP and was underwhelmed. Was going to just keep the X5M, but then was able to eventually test drive an M50i with 22" and DHP and thought it would be an excellent compromise for my wife and I.

Honestly, if BMW would increase the 40i hp as in other series with the same engine, add DHP, and M performance exhaust, the 40i would be great for us!

The days of the V8TT are numbered. Pretty much all the competition is doing a 4 and 6 cylinder in their full size SUV’s. BMW still is the drivers car even in the big SUV world. I am a car guy and as long as BMW offered a proper V8TT in a luxury SUV, I am going to buy it.

The exhaust note and low end torque numbers of the V8 are clearly better and worth the up charge for now. One of the common traits most of the 50i owners share that never gets old is just remote starting and listening to the very satisfying exhaust note. It makes your day a little bit better every time you start it up.

[atl_1M]

Must. Not. Read. This. Thread. Just placed an order for a 40i.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by X6M50i

You meant the comment or the ride "seem harsh"? haha

the ride quality is quite good considering everything even on 21" run flats.

my comment was referencing the air suspension not being worth anyone's time in a M50i if you care about handling.

[VTENGR]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

The days of the V8TT are numbered. Pretty much all the competition is doing a 4 and 6 cylinder in their full size SUV’s. BMW still is the drivers car even in the big SUV world. I am a car guy and as long as BMW offered a proper V8TT in a luxury SUV, I am going to buy it.

The exhaust note and low end torque numbers of the V8 are clearly better and worth the up charge for now. One of the common traits most of the 50i owners share that never gets old is just remote starting and listening to the very satisfying exhaust note. It makes your day a little bit better every time you start it up.

This was my selling point to my wife. We tend to keep our cars for a long time. I told her that by the time we're ready for a new car, V8s will be a thing of the past.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by ssiddiq1

Must. Not. Read. This. Thread. Just placed an order for a 40i.

Just to be on the full disclosure side, listen to a cold start up we hear every time the mighty 50i comes to life. .
Yea , it snorts exhaust 12 feet back out of all 4 pipes when it’s cold out like a dragon but don’t let that persuade you.

[ChiTownM]

Well all of you are confirming my suspicion about the M.....if you can swing it, get it right? I was not planning on DHP since I have 2 other sports cars and I would not be the primary driver.....btw it would replace an e70 X5M. I will check how aggressive of a deal I can get on one at the dealer lot vs. ordering. If I order, my next post will be about must haves on the vehicle.

The only other debate right now is staying with the X5 platform or move into the bigger X7 for practical use, we do a lot of road trips and typically have 4 people on board.....

Enjoy and thanks for the feedback and the video.

FWIW I was told that if I were to order any M package it would take longer since there must be a production impasse, not sure how it may affect anybody that has ordered.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

Well all of you are confirming my suspicion about the M.....if you can swing it, get it right? I was not planning on DHP since I have 2 other sports cars and I would not be the primary driver.....btw it would replace an e70 X5M. I will check how aggressive of a deal I can get on one at the dealer lot vs. ordering. If I order, my next post will be about must haves on the vehicle.

The only other debate right now is staying with the X5 platform or move into the bigger X7 for practical use, we do a lot of road trips and typically have 4 people on board.....

Enjoy and thanks for the feedback and the video.

FWIW I was told that if I were to order any M package it would take longer since there must be a production impasse, not sure how it may affect anybody that has ordered.

You need to read my 2200 mile family road trip (PA to Florida) in the winter review. We even did 1100 miles in one day coming home. The X5 is all you need for 4 adults and all their luggage for a two week trip. It’s big enough to feel like a full size SUV but not ltoo big to feel oversized like a 1500 pick-up. The X7 feels a lot bigger and more of what it is where the X5 feels like a athlete. Unless I had to carry a stroller everywhere with two kids, I would never need the additional space of the X7.

[spike5150]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

Well all of you are confirming my suspicion about the M.....if you can swing it, get it right? I was not planning on DHP since I have 2 other sports cars and I would not be the primary driver.....btw it would replace an e70 X5M. I will check how aggressive of a deal I can get on one at the dealer lot vs. ordering. If I order, my next post will be about must haves on the vehicle.

The only other debate right now is staying with the X5 platform or move into the bigger X7 for practical use, we do a lot of road trips and typically have 4 people on board.....

Enjoy and thanks for the feedback and the video.

FWIW I was told that if I were to order any M package it would take longer since there must be a production impasse, not sure how it may affect anybody that has ordered.

If you are coming from an X5M, I think you will regret not getting DHP. It is phenomenal.

[mrjoed2]

Anybody have any specifics what's holding up M50i production?
MY order is in, dealer telling me no new allocations until January.

[mrjoed2]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

The days of the V8TT are numbered. Pretty much all the competition is doing a 4 and 6 cylinder in their full size SUV’s. BMW still is the drivers car even in the big SUV world. I am a car guy and as long as BMW offered a proper V8TT in a luxury SUV, I am going to buy it.

The exhaust note and low end torque numbers of the V8 are clearly better and worth the up charge for now. One of the common traits most of the 50i owners share that never gets old is just remote starting and listening to the very satisfying exhaust note. It makes your day a little bit better every time you start it up.

Not completely true, Mercedes is doing their new GLE/GLS580
which is a TT V8. Will have a electric boost assist system. Less HP than the M50i, but the boost adds temp HP/torque.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by mrjoed2

Not completely true, Mercedes is doing their new GLE/GLS580
which is a TT V8. Will have a electric boost assist system. Less HP than the M50i, but the boost adds temp HP/torque.

Mercedes is doing it wrong, they're not any faster or more efficient (see C&D's test of the GLE 450 I6) yes not a V8 but I'm sure the same will translate over. Their V8 is also 4.0L, smaller displacement will never sound as good, this is why a 5.0 or even 4.4L V8 sound better. Turbos of course drown out the engine a bit but displacement can't be fixed with an exhaust unless you're that one guy in Japan who creats magic sounding ones

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by mrjoed2

Anybody have any specifics what's holding up M50i production?
MY order is in, dealer telling me no new allocations until January.

I was told today by my contact at my dealership that there is a recall with all the current M50i engines (just released and in current production) require a oil flush and NEED a oil change. I guess there is going to be a recall due to contamination? Dealerships are just starting to be notified as of yesterday. This could be the hold up. I didn’t ask about this but he brought it up in general dealership conversation.

[arciga18]

Originally Posted by Ninefourteener

Did this come from a reputable source? Can anyone confirm this?

My production date starts NEXT WEEK (Dec 9 - 13)

Yea The ca knows her stuff.

But basically no new orders for msport is what I understood . If some thing had already been ordered then yeah you are good to go.

[mrjoed2]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

I was told today by my contact at my dealership that there is a recall with all the current M50i engines (just released and in current production) require a oil flush and NEED a oil change. I guess there is going to be a recall due to contamination? Dealerships are just starting to be notified as of yesterday. This could be the hold up. I didn’t ask about this but he brought it up in general dealership conversation.

Thanks, I had read something about it being a oil filter issue, so sounds
all related. Not sure why it would effect future production if they found the problem.

[mrjoed2]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

Mercedes is doing it wrong, they're not any faster or more efficient (see C&D's test of the GLE 450 I6) yes not a V8 but I'm sure the same will translate over. Their V8 is also 4.0L, smaller displacement will never sound as good, this is why a 5.0 or even 4.4L V8 sound better. Turbos of course drown out the engine a bit but displacement can't be fixed with an exhaust unless you're that one guy in Japan who creats magic sounding ones

We will have to wait for reviews of the MB 4.0L V8. I am sure it's going to be a very nice engine. The start/stop on these mild hybrid are supposed to be excellent. Another advance is all belts are gone, no fan, A/C, alternator. Quiet, more compact & no parasitic loss. So will be interesting.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by mrjoed2

We will have to wait for reviews of the MB 4.0L V8. I am sure it's going to be a very nice engine. The start/stop on these mild hybrid are supposed to be excellent. Another advance is all belts are gone, no fan, A/C, alternator. Quiet, more compact & no parasitic loss. So will be interesting.

AMG Engines are nice but I'm not all for hybrid tech because it adds weight and complexity. The Germans aren't good with electronics so I'd be skeptical about MB/Audi/BMW for their first generation of this stuff

[Bigtime78]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

.... The Germans aren't good with electronics....

I will second that comment and add software engineering as well.

[maczrool]

Having driven the 40i for 5k miles I can say it sucks and has no balls. Don’t do it! People say it’s so smooth but if it is, it’s ruined by the harsh downshifts. Kick myself every day for not getting the 50i. Oh well live and learn.

[coolerbythelake]

I know I'm probably in the minority here but I honestly prefer the 40i. I came to BMW after several Lincolns, my last being a Black Label Nautilus. I test drove the XC90, the Aviator, the Q7, and the GLE450 before deciding on the X5. I also drove the 50i and M50i variants before "settling" on the 40i. I use quotes there because I don't believe I settled at all. For me it was the perfect choice and I think what's going to be important is deciding on the type of handling you're after and what you're looking for in the vehicle.

For me the X5 is my daily driver. When I've had a long day of dealing with stupid clients at work I like being able to sit in my car, turn on the massage, enjoy the materials...the leather, the glass controls, the ambient lighting, the alcantara headliner, it's kind of a like my sanctuary. I like being detached from the road and all the noise (God I sound autistic lmao). Price wasn't much of a factor for me. I would've gotten the M50i had that been what I wanted but I felt like the 6 cylinder was smoother. BMW says 5.3 seconds 0-60 on their website but we all know how conservative they are with their ratings and figures. Some of my favorite auto journalists on YouTube are getting 5.0 flat out of the 6. It feels plenty fast for me and even being the base of the engine options it's still faster and performs better than anything else in its class (or at least the vehicles I test drove). I lean more towards being an aggressive driver than not and I've never felt like it's underpowered in the least. Power delivery is near instantaneous and there's no apparent turbo lag to me. I really can't complain at all.

Like I said price wasn't a huge concern for me - my fun money typically goes towards cars - but I felt a little bit better about checking every single box when I ordered the car after choosing the 40i. MSRP was a hair under $92k. Sure it's not going to have all the crackles and pops that you get on the M50i and it has a much more contained "grunt" when you fire her up but I really enjoy my car. For me 523 hp would've been so over kill and just something cool on paper. And taking my 0-60 time from 5 or so seconds down to 4.1 was just kind of meh at that point.

But you know what? At the end of the day, a BMW isn't really a need but more of a want. I could go and buy a Kia that could get me to work but where's the fun in that? If you fall in love with the M50i get it and don't look back. Treat yourself! You're going to love it and it's not like you can take your money with you.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by maczrool

Having driven the 40i for 5k miles I can say it sucks and has no balls. Don’t do it! People say it’s so smooth but if it is, it’s ruined by the harsh downshifts. Kick myself every day for not getting the 50i. Oh well live and learn.

I have a 40i S drive (RWD) as a loaner while my cars getting serviced. The only way to get a decent amount of power is in Sport + and the gear shift in S or just use the paddles in Sport + it's jumpy but nothing like my 50i