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      08-12-2020, 09:47 AM   #67
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I love the air suspension in my 45e. Best drive I ever had comparing to previous owned X5 and X6. And yes it's necessary in the third world banana republic I live in.
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      08-12-2020, 12:35 PM   #68
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I love the air suspension in my 45e. Best drive I ever had comparing to previous owned X5 and X6. And yes it's necessary in the third world banana republic I live in.
I just returned home. First time I did Reims Brussels by Charleroi (speaking of third world). I was very happy with the AS. Worst highway I encountered during my trip through the south of France and the Alps.
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      08-12-2020, 01:24 PM   #69
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I love the air suspension in my 45e. Best drive I ever had comparing to previous owned X5 and X6. And yes it's necessary in the third world banana republic I live in.
I just returned home. First time I did Reims Brussels by Charleroi (speaking of third world). I was very happy with the AS. Worst highway I encountered during my trip through the south of France and the Alps.
In the area where I live lost a truck on a bridge his trailer due to the massive pot holes in the road. Trailer went downhill crashing into the car behind and killing a woman. Of course the trailer was also not properly connected. The next day the potholes were filled. Experts from the government said the reason was the trailer was not properly connected. Not the crappy road. If there were no massive potholes the woman would still be alive, properly connected or not.

It's just legalized murder by the government. I would like to see the figures of fatalities that are the result of the crappy roads in Belgistan. Also bikers and bicyclists.
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      08-17-2020, 06:01 PM   #70
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Mine is the 40i Xdrive with M adaptive, when we tested the cars, my wife didn't like the soft of the air susp, she just don't like anything feel soft, you know it. Even for now, when she drove the x5, she always clicked the sport button to select the firm suspension setting as what she did when she drove my M3.
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      08-18-2020, 02:09 AM   #71
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Air suspension - feels like a Mercedes Benz

Adaptive suspension - feels like a BMW
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      08-18-2020, 06:03 AM   #72
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Air suspension - feels like a Mercedes Benz

Adaptive suspension - feels like a BMW
BMW's 2-axle air suspension is also adaptive with benefits of ride level control. 2VR Sport Level ride height is lower than Adaptive M Suspension ride height.

Comparing the two suspension is apples to oranges - air springs/struts versus steel springs/struts.

If you want sportier ride, get the Adaptive M. You are giving up some of the sportier ride for the flexibility to control ride level in various road and weather conditions and terrains but can gain some of the loss back by lower the ride height to Sport level.

9.4.5. 2–axle Air Suspension (SA 2VR)
Due to the two-axle ride level control, there are no adverse effects whatsoever on comfort.

The driving characteristics can be modified in the usual manner via the Driving Experience Control.

Includes a level change rocker button which allows the customer to set 5 different ride heights in total
from –40 mm to +40 mm.
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      08-18-2020, 07:32 AM   #73
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"Air suspension - feels like a Mercedes Benz

Adaptive suspension - feels like a BMW "

Not true. The best combo short of DHP (which uses air suspension btw) is the air suspension with Integral Active Steering. That is the sportiest combo you can achieve short of DHP and is FAR more versatile and comfortable than M suspension.
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      08-18-2020, 07:35 AM   #74
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"Air suspension - feels like a Mercedes Benz

Adaptive suspension - feels like a BMW "

Not true. The best combo short of DHP (which uses air suspension btw) is the air suspension with Integrated Active Steering. That is the sportiest combo you can achieve short of DHP and is FAR more versatile and comfortable than M suspension.
What's integrated active steering?
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      08-18-2020, 07:44 AM   #75
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What's integrated active steering?
System that was available on the G05 in all models until they just deleted it for 2021 (although it is also part of DHP). It turns both the front and rear wheels in different situations.
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      08-18-2020, 07:49 AM   #76
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System that was available on the G05 in all models until they just deleted it for 2021 (although it is also part of DHP). It turns both the front and rear wheels in different situations.
Ooooh, you meant the integral active steering. For a minute there I thought I've missed another option from the list when I was spec'ing my car
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      08-18-2020, 07:51 AM   #77
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What's integrated active steering?
Integral Active Steering (aka IAS as the common forum folk usually call it...or HSR as BMW refers to it)...is an optional rear wheel steering system. Here's a link to the TIS that describes how it functions: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...rol/1VnYao5rwH
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Integral Active Steering (aka IAS as the common forum folk usually call it...or HSR as BMW refers to it)...is an optional rear wheel steering system. Here's a link to the TIS that describes how it functions: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...rol/1VnYao5rwH
Yeah, I'm aware what it is. I just got confused because of the term wrong term being used (integrated instead of integral)
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      08-18-2020, 10:44 AM   #80
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System that was available on the G05 in all models until they just deleted it for 2021 (although it is also part of DHP). It turns both the front and rear wheels in different situations.
It is still available on the M50i when you get air suspension.
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      08-18-2020, 11:18 AM   #81
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System that was available on the G05 in all models until they just deleted it for 2021 (although it is also part of DHP). It turns both the front and rear wheels in different situations.
It is still available on the M50i when you get air suspension.
Yes still avail for M50. Adding air suspension also gives you integral steering
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I opted in for the adaptive M suspension professional (2VW) and think it's absolutely brilliant. Was a pricey option to add to the M50d but in hindsight, well worth it. Soft in comfort and absolutely stiff in Sports PLUS.
did you had a chance to compare your Adaptive Pro with an air suspension ?
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      03-14-2022, 01:51 PM   #83
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My M package with adaptive suspension is fabulous in "comfort" mode.

Not a fan of air suspension. Very expensive to repair/replace.
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Thanks, Great explanation.

With the limited stock there's not any M50 available to drive with AS so would have to drive a 40i but they do have a M50 with DHP, so may drive it to see if it will be to harsh of ride for wife.

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Test drove the M50i today DHP and changed our build from air suspension to DHP. Thanks for the insight.
what made you chose DHP over AS ?
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Thanks, Great explanation.

With the limited stock there's not any M50 available to drive with AS so would have to drive a 40i but they do have a M50 with DHP, so may drive it to see if it will be to harsh of ride for wife.

Appreciate the responses


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Test drove the M50i today DHP and changed our build from air suspension to DHP. Thanks for the insight.
what made you chose DHP over AS ?
I preferred the M adaptive suspension plus it lower the car some to reduce gap. Also feedback receive was air suspension could feel floaty to some. We have had the car for year and half and don't regret it. The handles exceptionally well in corners with zero lean.

DHP is only way to go. It truly changes how the car responds.
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I preferred the M adaptive suspension plus it lower the car some to reduce gap.
The Adaptive M does not lower the vehicle at all. That suspension is exactly the same as the xLine suspension except for the tuning.
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I preferred the M adaptive suspension plus it lower the car some to reduce gap.
The Adaptive M does not lower the vehicle at all. That suspension is exactly the same as the xLine suspension except for the tuning.
My apologies you are correct for standard height. I was referring to driving, it will lower it when you get above certain speed to improve handling by lowering the chassis
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My apologies you are correct for standard height. I was referring to driving, it will lower it when you get above certain speed to improve handling by lowering the chassis
That is not correct, the M Adaptive suspension does not lower with speed. It is the Air suspension that will lower above a certain speed, I think 86 mph.
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