Who has AC issues on their V8 X5's?

hkleyman · 06-15-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

checked it all....atleast 10x. No matter what setting the AC only blows warm/hot air out 100% of the time.

I was just told by my dealer that there is 400+ national back order for the AC Compressor and the earliest the system shows they can get one in is end of July! BMW is going to have a a lot of buy back on there hands....

I was having a similar problem with my 2019 50i but it seemed to work itself out. I did have to have the 4 zone system serviced as the rear left pair of vents / zone would blow opposite of what the rest would. (Literally hot air if the car was cooling). Also disappointed that enabling the rear zone takes air pressure away from the front.

mugsix · 06-15-2020, 11:49 AM

I had my compressor replaced last summer. It's been great since then. It just took a while to get the dealer to accept that it was a real problem and not my "lack of understanding" of BMW climate control. It was INCREDIBLY frustrating!

Ultimately they watched the temperature at the AC vent and noticed that it was fluctuating greatly. Back in July, the dealer said it was the first compressor replacement they had seen on the G05...

Link to the thread I started back then:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1627534

adamcb · 06-15-2020, 12:43 PM

In my new 2020 X5 M5.0i, I have noticed a large discrepancy in the air temperature coming from the middle vents and those coming from the side vent (i.e. to the left of the steering wheel and next to the door).

Is this a result of me not fiddling with the slider that is embedded two layers deep in the iDrive? Should that slider adjust air from just the middle vent or both driver-side vents? I can't remember if the manual hot/cold slider on all of my previous BMWs adjusted air temperature coming out of all of the events...

Appreciate it,

Adam

Gator2177 · 06-15-2020, 09:28 PM

First time poster, 6 month lurker. Same thing happened to me. New x5M50i, two months after I picked it up a/c blows hot air. Compressor is dead. Part is now on back order until at least July. Dealer is trying to take care of me but bottom line is I’m out of my new special order ride until at least July. Is anybody concerned that replacing the compressor could lead to long term issues with the car or selling the car down the road?

mitch57 · 06-15-2020, 10:03 PM

I wonder why there are so many issues with X5 M50i and not with the 40i and the X7 models. I did a quick realoem parts search and it appears they use the same AC Compressor.

I'm not seeing reports of this being a problem with the X7 unless I'm missing it.

Alan l. · 06-15-2020, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitch57

I wonder why there are so many issues with X5 M50i and not with the 40i and the X7 models. I did a quick realoem parts search and it appears they use the same AC Compressor.

I'm not seeing reports of this being a problem with the X7 unless I'm missing it.

According to realoem the G05 X5 40i has a different part number for the AC Compressor. Basically all of bmw's N63 variant engines uses one compressor and the B58 uses another which is why it seems to only affect the V8 guys. Both compressors are made by "RP" which i've never heard of.

BMW 6 cylinder AC Compressor - Part #64529890655 or 64529890656
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=64_2449

BMW 8 cylinder AC Compressor - Part #64526822848
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=64_2171

I've dug around all over the place and every dealer is saying the same thing about the V8 AC compressors being on back order and there are ZERO for sale in the US or Europe. ETA mid July....

mitch57 · 06-16-2020, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

According to realoem the G05 X5 40i has a different part number for the AC Compressor. Basically all of bmw's N63 variant engines uses one compressor and the B58 uses another which is why it seems to only affect the V8 guys. Both compressors are made by "RP" which i've never heard of.

BMW 6 cylinder AC Compressor - Part #64529890655 or 64529890656
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=64_2449

BMW 8 cylinder AC Compressor - Part #64526822848
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=64_2171

I've dug around all over the place and every dealer is saying the same thing about the V8 AC compressors being on back order and there are ZERO for sale in the US or Europe. ETA mid July....

That begs the question as to why the different engines have different AC compressors. You would think the only difference would be in the placement of the compressor and possibly different installation brackets and install configurations.

Obviously there's some major difference in the design between the two which has caused one to fail consistently. Lets hope BMW starts looking for another parts supplier with that type of failure rate.

Kief · 06-16-2020, 03:20 AM

Apparently 8ers are having same issue

AC Issues ?? https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1723226

Frenetic · 06-16-2020, 05:54 AM

Well, I think my AC is on the fritz as well. It’s not cool, it’s not consistent and it explains why the blower is almost always on full blast as it’s just not cooling enough.

At first I thought it was maybe just me and BMW’s quirky setup, but after reading these threads, I’m more and more convinced that there’s something legitimately wrong with my car, which only 200 miles on it...

However, I’m kind of hesitant to bring it right away. I know there’s likely a gigantic backlog of the necessary parts because most parts manufacturers manage their volumes on the thinnest of margins/quantities, coupled with the fact that Covid-19 has likely slowed production to a crawl, all while trying to satisfy what is now normal car production levels on top of what is—by all accounts—a widespread, systemic issue with existing inventory already in use.

Moreover, I’m curious if the root-cause problem has been properly addressed, or are they simply putting in the same compressors that may have the same problems...

Alan l. · 06-16-2020, 10:10 AM

8 series guys are def. experiencing the same thing.

I would hope that since there is a bulletin about this issue now from BMW they are well aware there is a major issue with their supplier for these AC compressors and they are going to resolve it with the next batch of them coming to the US. Maybe thats why there are none for sale in the US at the moment its because theres a stop sale on them? Not sure about other states but if they can't fix your car for the same issue for over 30 days legally you can make BMW buy back the car and that is the last thing they want to do financially.

What i would like to know is how many more new cars being built now still have the defective compressors.

Alan

Frenetic · 06-16-2020, 10:39 AM

Can you post or link to that bulletin here?

Alan l. · 06-16-2020, 10:56 AM

I was told its in the dealers system but i can ask tomorrow when I am there.

Frenetic · 06-16-2020, 11:20 AM

Thanks.

RJJJ · 06-19-2020, 08:48 PM

Took delivery of my X6 M50i this January. Found out the AC is unable to blow cold air in March, took one month to fix at dealer and the whole ac system including compressor was replaced. What a shame on BMW for a brand new car has a broken ac

desirusso · 06-19-2020, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

8 series guys are def. experiencing the same thing.

I would hope that since there is a bulletin about this issue now from BMW they are well aware there is a major issue with their supplier for these AC compressors and they are going to resolve it with the next batch of them coming to the US. Maybe thats why there are none for sale in the US at the moment its because theres a stop sale on them? Not sure about other states but if they can't fix your car for the same issue for over 30 days legally you can make BMW buy back the car and that is the last thing they want to do financially.

What i would like to know is how many more new cars being built now still have the defective compressors.

Alan

I was already approved for a buyback because of this issue.... 2nd X5 in 6 months for bmw to buy back from me.... I'm a little concerned.... problem is there's no other car that can compare to this car... so I'm settling by turning it in and leaving the brand... but at the same time not excited with the issues experiencing here either

Bigtime78 · 06-20-2020, 01:11 AM

Yeah I’m noticing the same thing on my M50i. Thought it was just me. My wife has an M850i and does not have this issue. Friend has a 40i from ‘19 and doesn't have this issue.

I had a scenario today when it was cool out and the AC was blasting and then later in the day when it got warm and muggy out, no AC. So....

I emailed the owner of my dealership since he and I have identical models to see if he has noticed the same on his. Regardless I’m going to be booking service and of course when I do it will work fine for that one time when they test it.

Spfrank1 · 08-05-2020, 03:10 PM

I had issues with my 2020 X5M Competition’s A/C and had it looked at. They said settings were set to hot.. A couple days later I had the same issue. Turned it off and on and it worked. Went on a 4 hour trip in 97 degree weather and it went out completely. They are replacing the compressor .... said its a problem with all V8s. Part is back ordered in the states and is being shipped from Germany with 73 others.. Dealer said they 3 just that day with same issue.

My wife pointed out every Prius on the 4 hour trip and reminded me for $100,000 less they had Air Conditioning......

Alan l. · 08-05-2020, 03:49 PM

^^ Sorry to hear.

I've had my fair share of "did you forget the AC option in your 100K+ BMW?" comments.......

check out my other thread here. So far the AC has been working perfectly since they replaced all of my parts.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1729657

Alan

Kief · 08-05-2020, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spfrank1

My wife pointed out every Prius on the 4 hour trip and reminded me for $100,000 less they had Air Conditioning......

LOL, this would be my wife

And she really would be happier in a Prius

RJC-1 · 08-10-2020, 12:25 AM

Has anyone been successful at obtaining the TSB so we can see the production rage affected?

Unit · 08-10-2020, 03:55 AM

Think I’m going to have to get mine looked at because whilst it works it only really seems to stay on the coolest setting when I have the a/c max button pressed.

nvsocr7 · 08-13-2020, 09:41 PM

m50i, delivered 10/2019, AC issues recreated at the dealer, they think it's the compressor as well. there's an m5 with the same compressor number with the same problem. they have to contact BMW to confirm they can order the part, dealer still has the car, looks like they are starting to become aware of it.

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mugsix New Member 12 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2022 x5 M50i Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	I had my compressor replaced last summer. It's been great since then. It just took a while to get the dealer to accept that it was a real problem and not my "lack of understanding" of BMW climate control. It was INCREDIBLY frustrating! Ultimately they watched the temperature at the AC vent and noticed that it was fluctuating greatly. Back in July, the dealer said it was the first compressor replacement they had seen on the G05... Link to the thread I started back then: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1627534 __________________ __________________________ 2022 BMW X5 M50i
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adamcb Enlisted Member 9 Rep 45 Posts Drives: '20 X5 M5.0, '12 335is Cabrio Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX USA iTrader: (0)	In my new 2020 X5 M5.0i, I have noticed a large discrepancy in the air temperature coming from the middle vents and those coming from the side vent (i.e. to the left of the steering wheel and next to the door). Is this a result of me not fiddling with the slider that is embedded two layers deep in the iDrive? Should that slider adjust air from just the middle vent or both driver-side vents? I can't remember if the manual hot/cold slider on all of my previous BMWs adjusted air temperature coming out of all of the events... Appreciate it, Adam
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Gator2177 Registered 2 Rep 4 Posts Drives: X5 M50i Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	First time poster, 6 month lurker. Same thing happened to me. New x5M50i, two months after I picked it up a/c blows hot air. Compressor is dead. Part is now on back order until at least July. Dealer is trying to take care of me but bottom line is I’m out of my new special order ride until at least July. Is anybody concerned that replacing the compressor could lead to long term issues with the car or selling the car down the road?
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mitch57 Lieutenant Colonel 805 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X7 xDrive40i Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest iTrader: (0)	I wonder why there are so many issues with X5 M50i and not with the 40i and the X7 models. I did a quick realoem parts search and it appears they use the same AC Compressor. I'm not seeing reports of this being a problem with the X7 unless I'm missing it.
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Kief Major General 4433 Rep 5,728 Posts Drives: '24 iX50; '23 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika iTrader: (26)	Apparently 8ers are having same issue AC Issues ?? https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1723226 __________________ __________________ '24-I20 iX 50; '23-G26 i4 M50; '22-G82 M4Cx;20-G05 M50i; '20-F82 M4CS; '18-F80 M3CS; '18-F80 M3CS; '18-F85 X5M; '18-G01 X3M40i; '18-F80 M3ZCP; '17-F80 M3ZCP; '15-F15 X5; '15-F82 M4; '12-E92 335is; '11-E70 X5d; '11-E89 Z435is;'09-E89 Z435i; '08-E92 335i; '06-E90 330i; '05-E83 X3; '04-E83 X3; '03-E46 325Ci* *retired
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Frenetic PANIC! 482 Rep 823 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Costco iTrader: (0)	Well, I think my AC is on the fritz as well. It’s not cool, it’s not consistent and it explains why the blower is almost always on full blast as it’s just not cooling enough. At first I thought it was maybe just me and BMW’s quirky setup, but after reading these threads, I’m more and more convinced that there’s something legitimately wrong with my car, which only 200 miles on it... However, I’m kind of hesitant to bring it right away. I know there’s likely a gigantic backlog of the necessary parts because most parts manufacturers manage their volumes on the thinnest of margins/quantities, coupled with the fact that Covid-19 has likely slowed production to a crawl, all while trying to satisfy what is now normal car production levels on top of what is—by all accounts—a widespread, systemic issue with existing inventory already in use. Moreover, I’m curious if the root-cause problem has been properly addressed, or are they simply putting in the same compressors that may have the same problems...
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Alan l. Major General 5437 Rep 8,808 Posts Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United States iTrader: (9)	8 series guys are def. experiencing the same thing. I would hope that since there is a bulletin about this issue now from BMW they are well aware there is a major issue with their supplier for these AC compressors and they are going to resolve it with the next batch of them coming to the US. Maybe thats why there are none for sale in the US at the moment its because theres a stop sale on them? Not sure about other states but if they can't fix your car for the same issue for over 30 days legally you can make BMW buy back the car and that is the last thing they want to do financially. What i would like to know is how many more new cars being built now still have the defective compressors. Alan __________________
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Frenetic PANIC! 482 Rep 823 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Costco iTrader: (0)	Can you post or link to that bulletin here?
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RJJJ Private First Class 42 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X6 M50i Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Took delivery of my X6 M50i this January. Found out the AC is unable to blow cold air in March, took one month to fix at dealer and the whole ac system including compressor was replaced. What a shame on BMW for a brand new car has a broken ac
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Bigtime78 Private 20 Rep 52 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: May 2019 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Yeah I’m noticing the same thing on my M50i. Thought it was just me. My wife has an M850i and does not have this issue. Friend has a 40i from ‘19 and doesn't have this issue. I had a scenario today when it was cool out and the AC was blasting and then later in the day when it got warm and muggy out, no AC. So.... I emailed the owner of my dealership since he and I have identical models to see if he has noticed the same on his. Regardless I’m going to be booking service and of course when I do it will work fine for that one time when they test it.
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Spfrank1 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X5M Competition Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Central Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	I had issues with my 2020 X5M Competition’s A/C and had it looked at. They said settings were set to hot.. A couple days later I had the same issue. Turned it off and on and it worked. Went on a 4 hour trip in 97 degree weather and it went out completely. They are replacing the compressor .... said its a problem with all V8s. Part is back ordered in the states and is being shipped from Germany with 73 others.. Dealer said they 3 just that day with same issue. My wife pointed out every Prius on the 4 hour trip and reminded me for $100,000 less they had Air Conditioning...... Last edited by Spfrank1; 08-05-2020 at 03:30 PM..
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Alan l. Major General 5437 Rep 8,808 Posts Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United States iTrader: (9)	^^ Sorry to hear. I've had my fair share of "did you forget the AC option in your 100K+ BMW?" comments....... check out my other thread here. So far the AC has been working perfectly since they replaced all of my parts. https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1729657 Alan __________________
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Unit Lieutenant 219 Rep 457 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50i Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Think I’m going to have to get mine looked at because whilst it works it only really seems to stay on the coolest setting when I have the a/c max button pressed.
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nvsocr7 Private First Class 55 Rep 120 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Midwest iTrader: (0)	m50i, delivered 10/2019, AC issues recreated at the dealer, they think it's the compressor as well. there's an m5 with the same compressor number with the same problem. they have to contact BMW to confirm they can order the part, dealer still has the car, looks like they are starting to become aware of it.
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