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      08-07-2020, 06:49 PM   #23
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Thanks yes. I have laser lights in the US and would like them coded for anti dazzle to use them they way they were intended. Just browsing on it it seemed like it was hit or miss? At least that was the impression I got.

Is the process straight forward for someone who knows what they are doing? Then the next trick to find someone who knows what they are doing!;-)
Seems that the latest iDrive update may partially unravel the coding. I take my X5 in next week and am thinking they may update iDrive due to a few abnormal habits the car has exhibited. Right now I am running 11/2019.70 and have had the anti-dazzle working since last September. I’ll let you know what happens.
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Question... adaptive LEDs indicate a cornering light. I've looked pretty closely and don't see any opening for this. Does anyone actually have it?
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Question... adaptive LEDs indicate a cornering light. I've looked pretty closely and don't see any opening for this. Does anyone actually have it?
In the US, the cornering lights are only available on the laser lights. The element they show in the tech docs for the adaptive LED is not correct for the US since.
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Question... adaptive LEDs indicate a cornering light. I've looked pretty closely and don't see any opening for this. Does anyone actually have it?
In the US, the cornering lights are only available on the laser lights. The element they show in the tech docs for the adaptive LED is not correct for the US since.
Ah. Well that sucks, but thanks for clarifying. They were nifty on my 5.
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Question... adaptive LEDs indicate a cornering light. I've looked pretty closely and don't see any opening for this. Does anyone actually have it?
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In the US, the cornering lights are only available on the laser lights. The element they show in the tech docs for the adaptive LED is not correct for the US since.
Ja, I only posted since the OP is from the UK and the tech doc was relevant to his market.

Unfortunately USA gets Adaptive LED w/o corning. Seems like a logistical parts nightmare manage 4 headlight units worldwide.
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The retrofit can be done, swap the lights and code the ecu, i will do it next week, cost of it 4000 euro, if you want to buy it from the dealership 16000 euro.
Can you please tell me how to code led headlight?
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Can you please tell me how to code led headlight?
Read this thread https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1629991
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Thanks for the advice.

Before I phone the dealer, does anyone have any pics of the upgraded 552 Adaptive full LED headlamps with Iconic DRLs?

I've got these spec'd opposed to the laser lights.

Keen to understand if all 4 lights illuminate and what it looks like with the DRL's and indicators if possible
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For a little mroe detail about what the laser lights do check this thread:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1592918
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Thanks for the advice.

Before I doe to the dealer, does anyone have any pics of the upgraded 552 Adaptive full LED headlamps with Iconic DRLs?

I've got these spec'd opposed to the laser lights.

Keen to understand if all 4 lights illuminate and what it looks like with the DRL's and indicators if possible
552 Adaptive full LED headlamps are ONLY manufactured with "U" DRLs:

- Only the outer projector units illuminate
- Inner units are dummy units and do not illuminate
- There isn't a thing as 552 with Icon DRLs
- Photos provided earlier in thread


Icon DRLs are ONLY manufactured with 5AZ Adaptive full LED with Laser Lights
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Would be a go-stopper for me. I love the laser lights. Look better and have use of the corner lights frequently.
Also, it's a matter of principle. You ordered it, you should get it. Up to you if you'd be able to live with the delay if they have to order a later one.
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Thanks for the advice.

Before I doe to the dealer, does anyone have any pics of the upgraded 552 Adaptive full LED headlamps with Iconic DRLs?

I've got these spec'd opposed to the laser lights.

Keen to understand if all 4 lights illuminate and what it looks like with the DRL's and indicators if possible
552 Adaptive full LED headlamps are ONLY manufactured with "U" DRLs:

- Only the outer projector units illuminate
- Inner units are dummy units and do not illuminate
- There isn't a thing as 552 with Icon DRLs
- Photos provided earlier in thread


Icon DRLs are ONLY manufactured with 5AZ Adaptive full LED with Laser Lights
I'm going to politely challenge that if it's ok. My order sheet specifies:

Z0C Visibility Pack
552 BMW Icon Adaptive LED Headlights
5AC High-Beam Assist

Apparently UK units are different from the equivalent US.

Have I got that wrong?
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I'm going to politely challenge that if it's ok. My order sheet specifies:

Z0C Visibility Pack
552 BMW Icon Adaptive LED Headlights
5AC High-Beam Assist

Apparently UK units are different from the equivalent US.

Have I got that wrong?
UK market has 3 headlights options:

1. Base LED headlight with URL (no cornering, no adaptive, no HBA)

2. 552 - Adaptive LED headlight with U DRL (corning, adaptive, includes 5AC HBA) - Visibility Package 650GBP

3. 5AZ - Icon Adaptive LED with Laser lights and DRL - Visibility Package with Alternative Content BMW Laser Light, either 2000GBP (30d, 40d, 40i, 45e) or 1350GBP (M50d or M50i)

You'll need to contact your dealer and option Z0C Visibility Package with Alternative Content 5AZ


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Apparently UK units are different from the equivalent US. Have I got that wrong?
Only difference is 1 missing feature in 552 USA: 552 International unit include cornering lights which are not included in 552 USA units.

Otherwise they are identical in projection and DRL design.
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I'm also UK based.

Original car I ordered had Laserlights but was swiped from under my nose before dealer placed order to move from other dealership due to chit chat.

Ended up with a Adaptive LED lights car. Coming from a G30 with Icons it was Imperative that I had at least adaptive LED's.

I was disappointed by the "lesser" look compared to Laserlights when placing the order but since owning the car they have grown on me.

In my opinion, they actually look better and considering that BMW is quickly moving away from the traditional angel eye look which is more apparent in the Laserlights, it's oddly the "lesser" lights that are more akin to the design language going forwards.

In terms of performance, they are 100% adequate. They do very well around town with cornering and superb on motorway with the auto dip and tunnelling either side of cars ahead of you. Never have I found them insufficient.

It should also be noted that (from what I have read) EU adaptive LED's have far more functionality than US counterparts so be careful when reading post in respect of which market someone is relating their experience from.

Finally, if you have paid for Laserlights (around £700/800 more) i would be expecting the dealer to reimburse you the full cost of the option and not charge for the adaptive LEDs plus throw in a little cherry on top as a bonus. Otherwise I'd be walking away from the deal.
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maybe a dumb question but does having the lights set to "auto" change or make the lasers act any differently?
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maybe a dumb question but does having the lights set to "auto" change or make the lasers act any differently?
Whether you mean Auto for the headlights or Auto for the high beams, either doesn't effect the operation of the lasers. They will kick on when the high beams are on and you are going 37mph or higher.
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I'm also UK based.

Original car I ordered had Laserlights but was swiped from under my nose before dealer placed order to move from other dealership due to chit chat.

Ended up with a Adaptive LED lights car. Coming from a G30 with Icons it was Imperative that I had at least adaptive LED's.

I was disappointed by the "lesser" look compared to Laserlights when placing the order but since owning the car they have grown on me.

In my opinion, they actually look better and considering that BMW is quickly moving away from the traditional angel eye look which is more apparent in the Laserlights, it's oddly the "lesser" lights that are more akin to the design language going forwards.

In terms of performance, they are 100% adequate. They do very well around town with cornering and superb on motorway with the auto dip and tunnelling either side of cars ahead of you. Never have I found them insufficient.

It should also be noted that (from what I have read) EU adaptive LED's have far more functionality than US counterparts so be careful when reading post in respect of which market someone is relating their experience from.

Finally, if you have paid for Laserlights (around £700/800 more) i would be expecting the dealer to reimburse you the full cost of the option and not charge for the adaptive LEDs plus throw in a little cherry on top as a bonus. Otherwise I'd be walking away from the deal.
Yup agree 100% with this. I’m UK based too and the laser lights offered nothing but bragging rights given the adaptive LEDs have great functionality (and look better in the day in my opinion). I’d only have lasers if I was in the US.
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In terms of performance, they are 100% adequate. They do very well around town with cornering and superb on motorway with the auto dip and tunnelling either side of cars ahead of you. Never have I found them insufficient.
Agree.

We get the Adaptive LEDs by default here in Australia, and they are awesome.
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Laser lights are only there to look better from outside (maybe). But from the quality of the light, it is complete waste of money. I had 5 series f10 with adaptive Led lights, and now X5 with lasers. No difference AT ALL. It needs to be very dark, and you need to concentrate if you want to see if the lasers are ON or OFF. If you need to concentrate to see and feel that any system of the car is working, then that system is not good
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I ordered them only for the looks. I don't expect any significant difference in terms of how much of the road I will be able to see at night.
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On normal roads you don't see much difference indeed. Especially in Belgium where we have a lot of lights.

Big difference however in the woods and mountains.

But I only need that once or twice a year. I had a F11 normal adaptive headlight , F15 and G32 with adaptive LED and they all did a good job.

So as many others my choice was cosmetic. I think it really makes a difference (tastes and colors, I know) If you are happy with the look of the LED and it is your thing, Don't buy the lasers and spend it on something else.
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I will make it very simple.....”You need Laser lights” if you are buying a new luxury BMW vehicle.
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