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      02-13-2021, 11:32 PM   #199
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I just dont like the overall shape of the trunk, so bulky, I really like the design of the current X3 and X5.
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For me, if I end up going the electric route (not anytime soon though), I would go for Ford. They do have a better product.

😳😳Never thought I would say that about a Ford 😂
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What design language is this called?
"Questionable" I think is the polite word.
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For me, if I end up going the electric route (not anytime soon though), I would go for Ford. They do have a better product.

😳😳Never thought I would say that about a Ford 😂
Interesting option. I almost forgot about it. Seems like it's been launched forever without me seeing a single car in the flesh.

Looking like forwards to the top performance model.
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Interesting option. I almost forgot about it. Seems like it's been launched forever without me seeing a single car in the flesh.

Looking like forwards to the top performance model.
I saw my first one on the road last week, looked to be in some sort of matte grey color. It's not a bad looking car to be honest.
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For me, if I end up going the electric route (not anytime soon though), I would go for Ford. They do have a better product.

😳😳Never thought I would say that about a Ford 😂
Interesting option. I almost forgot about it. Seems like it's been launched forever without me seeing a single car in the flesh.

Looking like forwards to the top performance model.
They just arrived at dealers this week. My local dealer just got two on Friday, they look pretty good in person.
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Can we just stop talking about the grill? It's getting tired and everyone knows you don't like it. Besides if you're in the market for a new BMW you'll still buy it because it's all about that new car status, keeping up with the Jones's.
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Can we just stop talking about the grill? It's getting tired and everyone knows you don't like it. Besides if you're in the market for a new BMW you'll still buy it because it's all about that new car status, keeping up with the Jones's.
Can we just stop talking about people talking about the grille?

The difference is one discussion is about a BMW product (the intent of this forum I think), while the other is criticizing forum members opinions. Which is more appropriate?

Take a break if discussions of BMWs gets tired.
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I'm very pleased to see BMW and the other large manufacturers getting into the electric car market. While Tesla may have a jump on the competition their interiors are just plain boring. They really don't know how to build cars yet, they're learning as they go.
They have their work cut out. My wife test drove the Audi e-tron, Jag I-Pace, Model Y and even a BMW X3, since we already have an X5 and she actually preferred the MY interior and exterior.

Now having both at home, I have to admit, the only thing missing in the MY is a HUD and they will eat the competition. The interior is rock solid (unlike the Model S of yore). There are no creaks -unlike my X5.

I think the BMW looks great from the back and it does have a little bit of the Lexus RX styling so could be focusing on the Chinese market. The grill is too big IMHO.
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Can we just stop talking about the grill? It's getting tired and everyone knows you don't like it. Besides if you're in the market for a new BMW you'll still buy it because it's all about that new car status, keeping up with the Jones's.
Can we just stop talking about people talking about the grille?

The difference is one discussion is about a BMW product (the intent of this forum I think), while the other is criticizing forum members opinions. Which is more appropriate?

Take a break if discussions of BMWs gets tired.
Are you gonna be ok? Forums are not limited to a single discussion, that's the intent, I think. Opinions and getting tired of the same old opinions are all relative. Are you knew to the Internet and how forums work? I'm sorry you don't like the grill and I'm sorry BMW shit on their legacy by a design change because people like you define a car by the shape of radiator cooling vents.
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Is that a BMW or a GMC Terrain? Great front end but side profile is awful. Hope they change the production units!
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Can we just stop talking about the grill? It's getting tired and everyone knows you don't like it. Besides if you're in the market for a new BMW you'll still buy it because it's all about that new car status, keeping up with the Jones's.
Can we just stop talking about people talking about the grille?

The difference is one discussion is about a BMW product (the intent of this forum I think), while the other is criticizing forum members opinions. Which is more appropriate?

Take a break if discussions of BMWs gets tired.
Are you gonna be ok? Forums are not limited to a single discussion, that's the intent, I think. Opinions and getting tired of the same old opinions are all relative. Are you knew to the Internet and how forums work? I'm sorry you don't like the grill and I'm sorry BMW shit on their legacy by a design change because people like you define a car by the shape of radiator cooling vents.
Glad we're in agreement.
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I'm very pleased to see BMW and the other large manufacturers getting into the electric car market. While Tesla may have a jump on the competition their interiors are just plain boring. They really don't know how to build cars yet, they're learning as they go.
They have their work cut out. My wife test drove the Audi e-tron, Jag I-Pace, Model Y and even a BMW X3, since we already have an X5 and she actually preferred the MY interior and exterior.

Now having both at home, I have to admit, the only thing missing in the MY is a HUD and they will eat the competition. The interior is rock solid (unlike the Model S of yore). There are no creaks -unlike my X5.

I think the BMW looks great from the back and it does have a little bit of the Lexus RX styling so could be focusing on the Chinese market. The grill is too big IMHO.
model y better than all those cars interior and exterior .
My friend has a 2016 model s and it's dire sounds like a rickety taxi inside. G05 x5 is a class act.
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I'm very pleased to see BMW and the other large manufacturers getting into the electric car market. While Tesla may have a jump on the competition their interiors are just plain boring. They really don't know how to build cars yet, they're learning as they go.
They have their work cut out. My wife test drove the Audi e-tron, Jag I-Pace, Model Y and even a BMW X3, since we already have an X5 and she actually preferred the MY interior and exterior.

Now having both at home, I have to admit, the only thing missing in the MY is a HUD and they will eat the competition. The interior is rock solid (unlike the Model S of yore). There are no creaks -unlike my X5.

I think the BMW looks great from the back and it does have a little bit of the Lexus RX styling so could be focusing on the Chinese market. The grill is too big IMHO.
model y better than all those cars interior and exterior .
My friend has a 2016 model s and it's dire sounds like a rickety taxi inside. G05 x5 is a class act.
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I'm very pleased to see BMW and the other large manufacturers getting into the electric car market. While Tesla may have a jump on the competition their interiors are just plain boring. They really don't know how to build cars yet, they're learning as they go.
They have their work cut out. My wife test drove the Audi e-tron, Jag I-Pace, Model Y and even a BMW X3, since we already have an X5 and she actually preferred the MY interior and exterior.

Now having both at home, I have to admit, the only thing missing in the MY is a HUD and they will eat the competition. The interior is rock solid (unlike the Model S of yore). There are no creaks -unlike my X5.

I think the BMW looks great from the back and it does have a little bit of the Lexus RX styling so could be focusing on the Chinese market. The grill is too big IMHO.
model y better than all those cars interior and exterior .
My friend has a 2016 model s and it's dire sounds like a rickety taxi inside. G05 x5 is a class act.
What car is your friend planning to get next? Ever wondered by Tesla resale values are so much higher than BMW? I'll definitely consider the iX as my next upgrade along with what is out there. However, based on my recent comparisons, a lot of the criticisms against Tesla's build quality have been addressed. The Model Y (long range) is an incredible all around vehicle. The build quality is at par with my X5 in every way possible. There is no denying that. The iX needs to be great. The Ford Mach-e is also shaping up to be a formidable competitor.

BMW's biggest competitive advantage IMHO is their fine tuned leasing program. If you want to lease, BMW makes it really easy.
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I'm very pleased to see BMW and the other large manufacturers getting into the electric car market. While Tesla may have a jump on the competition their interiors are just plain boring. They really don't know how to build cars yet, they're learning as they go.
They have their work cut out. My wife test drove the Audi e-tron, Jag I-Pace, Model Y and even a BMW X3, since we already have an X5 and she actually preferred the MY interior and exterior.

Now having both at home, I have to admit, the only thing missing in the MY is a HUD and they will eat the competition. The interior is rock solid (unlike the Model S of yore). There are no creaks -unlike my X5.

I think the BMW looks great from the back and it does have a little bit of the Lexus RX styling so could be focusing on the Chinese market. The grill is too big IMHO.
model y better than all those cars interior and exterior .
My friend has a 2016 model s and it's dire sounds like a rickety taxi inside. G05 x5 is a class act.
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I'm very pleased to see BMW and the other large manufacturers getting into the electric car market. While Tesla may have a jump on the competition their interiors are just plain boring. They really don't know how to build cars yet, they're learning as they go.
They have their work cut out. My wife test drove the Audi e-tron, Jag I-Pace, Model Y and even a BMW X3, since we already have an X5 and she actually preferred the MY interior and exterior.

Now having both at home, I have to admit, the only thing missing in the MY is a HUD and they will eat the competition. The interior is rock solid (unlike the Model S of yore). There are no creaks -unlike my X5.

I think the BMW looks great from the back and it does have a little bit of the Lexus RX styling so could be focusing on the Chinese market. The grill is too big IMHO.
model y better than all those cars interior and exterior .
My friend has a 2016 model s and it's dire sounds like a rickety taxi inside. G05 x5 is a class act.
What car is your friend planning to get next? Ever wondered by Tesla resale values are so much higher than BMW? I'll definitely consider the iX as my next upgrade along with what is out there. However, based on my recent comparisons, a lot of the criticisms against Tesla's build quality have been addressed. The Model Y (long range) is an incredible all around vehicle. The build quality is at par with my X5 in every way possible. There is no denying that. The iX needs to be great. The Ford Mach-e is also shaping up to be a formidable competitor.

BMW's biggest competitive advantage IMHO is their fine tuned leasing program. If you want to lease, BMW makes it really easy.
he bought the model s for 76k 4 years ago and residual in 4 years was 38k. I would argue not much difference in residuals as a 76k bmw would be discounted to 60-65k and then offer a residual of 30k on a 2.9%apr in leasing.
Anyway to answer your question he is planning to buy out his model as he bought it as his toy as he is an IT guy and has hardly done any miles on it.
(ps in £ not in $ and tbh model y not scheduled to come to Britain till 2022).
BTW if the interior quality of a 76k model s is nowhere when compared to a g05 x5, its real leather fgs and my g05 doesn't have a single squeak or rattle and highway road noise is non existent.
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Can they ditch the beaver teeth grill already. I really don't think I can buy a vehicle with such an ugly front end. Audi seems to be able to make it work, but the Lexus grills are hideous also. Wish they would go back to the wider but short kidneys.
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Can they ditch the beaver teeth grill already. I really don't think I can buy a vehicle with such an ugly front end. Audi seems to be able to make it work, but the Lexus grills are hideous also. Wish they would go back to the wider but short kidneys.
Yep - not to be negative but I cant buy a BMW with that front end styling. I am trying hard to like the new M3 but I can't.
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