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      05-01-2021, 05:50 PM   #23
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No emotions here gents! Just gathering info, it's wifey's car, so I didn't dig that deep into research as far as chassis codes, etc. She was adamant on an M, so I knew the least powerful of the X5s that wear the M badge is the 50i
But it's really not an M at all. It's just marketing.
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Oh how I wish the F95/F96 forum would secede from the main G05/G06 forum already (and G07 combined into G05/G06). It was a major error by admins to combine the two. Having to see this elitist drivel and the blind-leading-the-blind "technical" discussions that have long been ironed out in the experienced main forum is irritating to say the least. And unfortunately I do have to see this due to how I read Bimmerpost through the app using New Posts feature. A thread or forum ignore feature would work too, but doesn't exist. Grr.
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Oh how I wish the F95/F96 forum would secede from the main G05/G06 forum already (and G07 combined into G05/G06). It was a major error by admins to combine the two. Having to see this elitist drivel and the blind-leading-the-blind "technical" discussions that have long been ironed out in the experienced main forum is irritating to say the least. And unfortunately I do have to see this due to how I read Bimmerpost through the app using New Posts feature. A thread or forum ignore feature would work too, but doesn't exist. Grr.
Is there a summary of the platform differences (F95/6 vs G05/6) somewhere?
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Is there a summary of the platform differences (F95/6 vs G05/6) somewhere?
Not sure I under stand the question. All platforms are the same its the components that make up the vehicle.

3 series all share same platform but you have many models or versions each with their own recipe of parts. This is same with 4 series and the X5 or X3 ect...

Example would be X5 40i carries the inline 6. M50i is TT V8 N code motor and the X5M/Comp TT V8 S code motor. You can do the same for suspension driveline ect.... the list goes on.

Things like this is why you see others letting people know you are post on the wrong forum when its not the shared model. Simple makes it easy to get wrong part number or advice because others are asking about the wrong version of the platform. Some take it a bit far and others simple helping OP's reach the correct location. Its the story end of time just like an oil thread of which is best to use.. LoL
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Not sure I under stand the question. All platforms are the same its the components that make up the vehicle.

3 series all share same platform
an M3 since the E92 is more/less a ground-up different vehicle (engine, transmission, cooling, suspension, frame, body panels, et al) than a 3-series, thus the different platform designation (and plant!)

So what's up with the X5? Just a different engine & suspension? i.e., are the G05 and F95 truly different vehicles like the M3, or just the same platform with upgraded components?

As an example, the engines sound similar:

• M50i: N63B44T3 4.4 L V8 twin-turbo
523 hp @ 5,500–6,000 rpm; 553 lb⋅ft @ 1,800–4,600 rpm

• X5M: S63B44T4 4.4 L V8 twin-turbo
591 hp @ 6,000 rpm (comp +26hp); 553 lb⋅ft @ 1,800–5,860 rpm

So different engine, though on paper not hugely different (maybe only tuning!!) - in an M3 the caveat would be *and with 7 coolers so it can run all day in 100℉ ... and that's a HUGE performance difference even for the same HP, which it isn't.

So trying to get a sense of what the X5M is bringing to the table over the M50i ... is it the S63 + suspension or are there other mechanical advantages / differences?
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an M3 since the E92 is more/less a ground-up different vehicle (engine, transmission, cooling, suspension, frame, body panels, et al) than a 3-series, thus the different platform designation (and plant!)

So what's up with the X5? Just a different engine & suspension? i.e., are the G05 and F95 truly different vehicles like the M3, or just the same platform with upgraded components?

As an example, the engines sound similar:

• M50i: N63B44T3 4.4 L V8 twin-turbo
523 hp @ 5,500–6,000 rpm; 553 lb⋅ft @ 1,800–4,600 rpm

• X5M: S63B44T4 4.4 L V8 twin-turbo
591 hp @ 6,000 rpm (comp +26hp); 553 lb⋅ft @ 1,800–5,860 rpm

So different engine, though on paper not hugely different (maybe only tuning!!) - in an M3 the caveat would be *and with 7 coolers so it can run all day in 100℉ ... and that's a HUGE performance difference even for the same HP, which it isn't.

So trying to get a sense of what the X5M is bringing to the table over the M50i ... is it the S63 + suspension or are there other mechanical advantages / differences?

I see what you are asking. Yeah I don't have a list for sure but what you are stating about the M3 yes the X5M is in the same boat here. Added cooling for sure, tunes yes, engine components are not shared ect. But a compare list no I don't have that. I would guess one could go to an OEM parts web page and create one if they wanted to know for sure. Just open to windows and compare section by section.
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Let's not forget the different exhaust hardware, additional chassis bracing and cooler seats
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...and brakes, engine mounts, M modes
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So different engine, though on paper not hugely different (maybe only tuning!!) -
Yes in the same way a b58 and s58 only difference is tuning
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Hey All, yes I realize it's not full blown M and it's the entry level M50i. Also, the 5.0 was a typo. Thanks for the concern though! Full blown M w/ 600hp I think is way too much for wifey, who is a very fast driver. I am concerned as it is w/ the 530hp, but wifey gets what wifey wants!

If I am in the wrong forum apologies, but doesn't this belong here? I only see the regular X5 forum other than this one, so am I missing something? IMO, it's an M, not an X5 M sport w/ bolt ons. I've owned plenty a full blown M, since my first back in '99, w/ my E36 M3. Nowadays, Motorsport has really expanded it's realm. Such as in the "M" 5 series line, which starts w/ an M550i, M5, M5C and finally the M5CS.
Switch the order to the X5M!!! I think thats the one you want.
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Hey All, yes I realize it's not full blown M and it's the entry level M50i. Also, the 5.0 was a typo. Thanks for the concern though! Full blown M w/ 600hp I think is way too much for wifey, who is a very fast driver. I am concerned as it is w/ the 530hp, but wifey gets what wifey wants!

If I am in the wrong forum apologies, but doesn't this belong here? I only see the regular X5 forum other than this one, so am I missing something? IMO, it's an M, not an X5 M sport w/ bolt ons. I've owned plenty a full blown M, since my first back in '99, w/ my E36 M3. Nowadays, Motorsport has really expanded it's realm. Such as in the "M" 5 series line, which starts w/ an M550i, M5, M5C and finally the M5CS.
Hate to break it to you, but...
But as OP stated, what wifey wants, wifey gets = whipped with a ball and chain. That comment alone should get this post permanently deleted.
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Oh how I wish the F95/F96 forum would secede from the main G05/G06 forum already (and G07 combined into G05/G06). It was a major error by admins to combine the two. Having to see this elitist drivel and the blind-leading-the-blind "technical" discussions that have long been ironed out in the experienced main forum is irritating to say the least. And unfortunately I do have to see this due to how I read Bimmerpost through the app using New Posts feature. A thread or forum ignore feature would work too, but doesn't exist. Grr.
Is there a summary of the platform differences (F95/6 vs G05/6) somewhere?
Nice to see you in here.

I found this thread via a Google search: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1777765

Are you thinking about picking up a F95? It's worth the price of admission👍
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