[Cityman]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

? Ventilated seats are standard on the M60i.

Thanks. I was unaware of that.

[spoodle]

Originally Posted by Jason60051

I’m in the same predicament…I’m torn between a 50e and m60. I’ve read things about the LCI version of both. Check engine light etc with the 50e and with the m60i I am reading the auto start/stop can be annoying not being able to turn it off completely (not necessarily a deal breaker).

I have disabled the auto start stop on 3 previous cars under the hood. That’s how much I hate it. I barely notice it on the M60i and it is a total non issue for me. I’ll be interested to see what happens in summer though when it’s a 100 degrees outside because if it turns the AC off at stoplights I will be unhappy. I do understand there is an automatic something that kicks in and doesn’t activate the ASS if the temperature differential is too high.

[spoodle]

Originally Posted by Cityman

I test drove a 40i and then 50e, and immediately liked the 50e better. A week later I drove the M60, but not very far. Honestly, I couldn’t tell that much difference between 50e and 60, but the test drive was admittedly too short. 50e has ventilated seats and for some reason 60 does not. Being from Texas, all my vehicles have that. Regarding pre-conditioning, does this would work well for air conditioning if it’s sitting in the hot sun and I want to cool it off before jumping in? Since it doesn’t have remote start, I’m sure hoping the pre-conditioning will cool the car in the summer if there’s enough battery charge. Letting your ICE idle with the AC on is not efficient anyway, so I was thinking the battery cooled AC would get cold immediately, even while parked.

My M60i has ventilated seats.

[roamio]

Originally Posted by RNorb

The M60i has optional air suspension and standard 20" tires.

Both options help with ride quality

[spoodle]

I optioned my M60i with adaptive M suspension professional and I’m so glad I did. Even on 22s the ride is plenty soft for me with the benefit of excellent handling and low body roll.

I’ve had a PHEV before and have a level 2 charger. It was nice to make rare stops at the gas station. I passed on the 50e. The price difference between the 50e and 60 wasn’t enough for me and I get no tax credit. Then seeing the issues popping up sealed the deal. I love the M60i and would say it’s about the most perfect SUV I’ve ever had. No issues with ASS or no buttons. I set up shortcuts in idrive and use hey bmw voice commands all the time and all is good.

[barbE]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

They're very different vehicles. The 50e is quick, but that isn't it's focus, more like a byproduct. The M60i is intended as a sporty ride, focusing on ha dling and grip more than the 50e does.

They're kind of aimed at different people. The 50e is the one that an accountant would pick. The M60i is the one for the guy who had a sports car but that sports car landed him with kids to cart around.

IMO, treat yo self the the M60i. Probably have better resale too, since V8s aren't getting more common and there will be a newer, better PHEV in a few years.

Laughed out loud at this. Some accountants prefer the M60i over the 50e. So maybe 4 out of 5 accountants prefer the 50e…haha I agree with treating yourself to the M60i.

[spoodle]

Originally Posted by barbE

Laughed out loud at this. Some accountants prefer the M60i over the 50e. So maybe 4 out of 5 accountants prefer the 50e…haha I agree with treating yourself to the M60i.

I’m an accountant and a woman and I love my M60i

[barbE]

Originally Posted by spoodle

I’m an accountant and a woman and I love my M60i

Yes!! Same here!

[jad03060]

For practical purposes, the 50e is a better choice. Forums tend to gather people who have problems and not necessarily representative of the norm. Only you can decide if the 60i is better for you than a 50e. Driving them each back-to-back should be attempted. With start stop, the 60i can get annoying when the compressor stops...the 50e has an electrically powered compressor so that isn't an issue. And, you can precondition it in a closed garage safely. That operation also will run longer than remote start on the 60i (30-minutes versus 15).

[barbE]

I was initially going to build and order a G06 40i, PHEV not an option but wasn’t a consideration anyway. Kept having a nagging feeling I’d regret it if I didn’t get the M60i and after having it for four months, I am glad AF I have it.

[Cityman]

Originally Posted by barbE

I was initially going to build and order a G06 40i, PHEV not an option but wasn’t a consideration anyway. Kept having a nagging feeling I’d regret it if I didn’t get the M60i and after having it for four months, I am glad AF I have it.

Do you mind the A.S.S.?

[barbE]

The A.S.S. took a couple weeks to get used to but it doesn’t bother me at all now. This is the first vehicle I’ve owned that has it. In sport mode it is disabled automatically, so that is a workaround. Ive also noticed that when I take my foot off the brake it cancels s the A.S.S. (I don’t care for auto hold at all and have that turned off).

[apw2607]

Since I’ve bought a 50e I highly recommend it so long as you get a charger installed at home. I just crossed 5000 miles and had no drive train or CEL issues. I’ve never once filled the car up at a gas station to full. I’ve give it 20 bucks here and there but never done a full fill.

80% of my driving so far has being on electric, which surprised me.

But this is the best thing of all. You get insane performance but I’m not having the expense and time to keep filling the bloody thing up. Unless you intend to take the car to a private road or track, it’s got more than enough grunt to get you into trouble,

I dunno, but for the slightly improved performance in the v8 over the 50e it just doesn’t make sense to me. But horses for courses.

[Cityman]

Originally Posted by apw2607

Since I’ve bought a 50e I highly recommend it so long as you get a charger installed at home. I just crossed 5000 miles and had no drive train or CEL issues. I’ve never once filled the car up at a gas station to full. I’ve give it 20 bucks here and there but never done a full fill.

80% of my driving so far has being on electric, which surprised me.

But this is the best thing of all. You get insane performance but I’m not having the expense and time to keep filling the bloody thing up. Unless you intend to take the car to a private road or track, it’s got more than enough grunt to get you into trouble,

I dunno, but for the slightly improved performance in the v8 over the 50e it just doesn’t make sense to me. But horses for courses.

I definitely plan to have the level 2 charger installed in the garage. No question.

[X5MC4ME]

I started down this road months ago…and it led me to an X5M Comp. That said I’m used to sports cars so the ride compromise wasn’t a huge deal to me. If it was I would have gone m60. It’s 90% of the acceleration and 60% of the handling IMO. Comfort is 70% better IMO than X5MC. The 50e was very good as an all around car but just never seemed sporty to me (I’d say 40% of the acceleration and 50% of the handling compared to X5MC). All the cars I test drove had the sports suspension upgrades FWIW.

Hope that helps. They are all great cars.

X

[WagonFan]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

M60i all the time, if you would like a more spirited driving, the additional weight of the 50e limits cornering capability and driving fun.

Both are heavy and >5000 lbs. Are the additional 200 lbs really limiting capability and fun?

[eluded]

agreed, but half the people on this forums have issues with the 50e. It has TONS of bugs. BMW has even bought back some of these cars which is unheard of.

Originally Posted by jad03060

For practical purposes, the 50e is a better choice. Forums tend to gather people who have problems and not necessarily representative of the norm.

[JoeAyalaM]

200 lbs does not seem like much, but it can be felt when taking a curve at speed.

I guess the 50e is also a great option, but does it also have the exact same suspension as the M60i ? Rear wheel steering and all?

[JoeAyalaM]

Originally Posted by Cityman

I definitely plan to have the level 2 charger installed in the garage. No question.

So have you decided to go for the 50e?

If so, it's also great, enjoy it. 👍

[Cityman]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

So have you decided to go for the 50e?

If so, it's also great, enjoy it. 👍

I have not cancelled my order yet. Still leaning toward the 50e. Of the x5 options, this seems to be a sweet spot.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

200 lbs does not seem like much, but it can be felt when taking a curve at speed.

I guess the 50e is also a great option, but does it also have the exact same suspension as the M60i ? Rear wheel steering and all?

My understanding for 50e (looking at the configuration tool online) is no M Suspension, the Dynamic Handling Package isn't available, and the M brakes are an optional upgrade.

So 50e is a regular X5 with more weight and electric thrust. M60i is a performance X5 with a V8 and 48V mild hybrid thrust, with the availability of optional dynamic Handling, and having the sportier steel suspension standard.

It's worth noting that M60i offers a lot of luxury options you can't get on 50e.

[Cityman]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

My understanding for 50e (looking at the configuration tool online) is no M Suspension, the Dynamic Handling Package isn't available, and the M brakes are an optional upgrade.

So 50e is a regular X5 with more weight and electric thrust. M60i is a performance X5 with a V8 and 48V mild hybrid thrust, with the availability of optional dynamic Handling, and having the sportier steel suspension standard.

It's worth noting that M60i offers a lot of luxury options you can't get on 50e.

What are some of the luxury items that the M60i has over the 50e? I’m still trying to compare apples to apples (which is sometimes difficult with BMW) with what I’ve spec’d out and besides about a $10,000 or so difference, I think the main things are the v8 of course, and beefed up suspension system. 50e has air suspension standard, though. I went with the 20” wheels and squared up tire configuration too, but not to save money. I thought it would enhance ride quality.