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Last month, I had to make a choice when my lease ended on my 2021 40i xDrive. I was eyeing the 2024 model, but then I found out it didn't have an air suspension option anymore on the 40i, which was a no go for me. So, I checked out the 50e model instead and, honestly, it's pretty awesome. It's got more power, runs smoother, and getting into the whole Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV) thing has turned out to be a really cool hobby. I'm really digging the 50e and I don't think I'll go back to a regular gas car again.
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I love having 40 miles of range every morning, and the acceleration is very close to ///M models! |
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When doing a launch like that, it's best to be in Sport, which automatically kicks on the ICE. The acceleration is intoxicating. But even if you're driving along and step on it, the ICE comes on pretty seamlessly to provide all 483hp. It appears to happen much more quickly than an all-ICE car, which needs to downshift and then spool up to meet the demand of the accelerator input. And for 0-30...it feels like a BEV, with instant torque. |
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Also I noticed that in sport mode the exhaust is much louder than my old 2021 40i. The electric only mode actually still packs a big punch 0-30 and is more than adequate for day to day. |
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12-09-2023, 03:40 PM | #96 |
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The significant, instant torque added by the fairly large EV motor on the PHEV does make a difference. While BMW engines build torque fairly quickly and at lower RPM than many out there, it is not instant like the EV motor's. On the 45e, the power:weight ratio between the 40i and 45e were essentially the same, the 40i to 50e, the 50e has the advantage.
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12-10-2023, 12:02 AM | #97 |
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I disabled the iconic sounds and that killed the enhanced engine note in sport mode.
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12-10-2023, 07:15 AM | #99 |
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A new 40i or 50e with 0-60 in the low to mid 4s is going to feel like a Z06 to a guy who is driving a slug RX 350 or Genesis that is 2 or 3 seconds slower in a the 60 sprint.
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12-10-2023, 02:46 PM | #102 |
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Good call and spot on. Yeah, C5 Z06 was my first and it was right about 4 seconds flat 0-60 and low 12s 1/4 mile which was smokin fast 20 years ago. Great no BS 2 seat sports car.
Got my sights now on a C8 Eray non plug in hybrid which is good for mid 2s and mid 10s, a monster and no need to plug it in which works for me in a high rise condo. |
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12-12-2023, 09:38 PM | #103 | |
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12-13-2023, 01:29 AM | #104 |
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Waiting for the draggy results or YouTube video's too.
BMW rates 0-60 in 4.6, without runout. So 4.3 should be doable. Carand driver got 4.7 to 60 out of the 45e, and its 7/10ths slower to 60 so four flat might be obtainable in perfect conditions. |
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It's intoxicating for sure and I absolutely love that this car can both be a silent and comfortable EV but will also be a lot of fun in a straight line with a quite sporty sounding I6. AutotopNL on YT tested the 50e @ 4.66 0-100kph, don't know what that is in 0-60mph though. Considering it's 0.14s faster than what BMW stated a 4.3 seems reasonable 0-60 but 4s flat definitely seem too quick. It also did ~13s 100-200kph or 62-124mph, which is quite an important figure in Germany. Both are about as fast as the first X5M. For reference AutotopNL also timed the X3M Comp. LCI @ 3.8s 0-100 and @ 9.5s 100-200 which is more than 900lbs lighter and the pre-LCI was doing 4.1s 0-100 and 10.0s 100-200. So you can tell that the electric motor especially helps at lower speeds and I could imagine that for the elasticity measurements from like 50-70mph in a high gear the 50e would beat quite a lot of cars that are otherwise faster like 0-100 or 100-200. Last edited by SwissBeemer; 12-13-2023 at 07:31 AM.. |
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The electric assists in these current vehicles has changed their character on numerous levels.
The mild hybrid with its 147 lb ft of torque on the current M60i is very noticeable when it is called upon at lower rpms especially from a standing start compared to the prior M50i which is quite strong even without the stragegically applied hybrid bump. The 6,000 lb X7 M50i can rip off 0-60 in 4.2-4.3 under good conditions while the new S68 M60i with mild hybrid assist has been shown to drop that metric to 3.8 seconds by Car and Driver. This is a huge improvement when you are already starting from the low 4s which is extremely fast for a 3 ton vehicle. The 600 lb lighter X5/X6 M60i will obviously roll that same 0-60 in less time. The line between the 50e and the M60i is not close or blurry in this most commonly reported acceleration metric. Last edited by cobramite; 12-13-2023 at 08:06 AM.. |
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12-13-2023, 08:28 AM | #108 |
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Probably a good number of the people who elect to spend 17 grand more to adopt the M60i.
Quite a number of people on this board discussing this very subject over time if you haven't noticed. Does everyone who owns any of these vehicles care about this stuff, obviously not and it would appear that is true in your case. Some of us don't eat sushi or buckwheat but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with that stuff. Last edited by cobramite; 12-13-2023 at 08:36 AM.. |
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Likely a very small minority of owners but there is nothing wrong with that. We all have something that draws us to the vehicles we obtain, it could be style, color, badge, speed, etc. It is nice to be able to choose what we want even if it is because it has a feature that we will never fully use or just something to have for bragging rights/makes you feel better.
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