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Given that it is a known issue in regards to bad cameras and the driver assistance reduced message it is amazing they didn’t replace that. If you still have that message ask them to replace it. You may also want to contact BMWNA and make sure they are aware of your situation as well as look into/start the lemon law process.
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I only raised the "production candidate" possibility because I've worked in the world of firmware for more years than I care to admit, and on a few occasions I've approved limited release of firmware that was technically production candidate status. In those cases, the code was simply awaiting higher-level sign off to promote the same 1s and 0s to production status, and that approver was away due to travel, vacation, etc. Exceptions like that can happen, but they're rare for sure.
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A couple of side comments: I was in the middle of the S54 engine self-destruction fiasco during the first couple of years of E46M3 production. BMW was highly non-transparent about the defect and while they clearly found and fixed the root cause a couple of years later and did extend engine warranty to 6 years to compensate, they never admitted to any issue. At the time, the same party I am having discussions with right now about G05X5 couldn't get any straight answers out of BMW; nor could any other mere mortal. This time around, BMW seems to be supporting their ecosystem and is being strangely more transparent. You still have to ask and you do have to ask a bit forcefully, but there IS info available. I don't know if it's random or pattern, but I like it and hope it does become a pattern of transparency. PS: gpitts, I am also an engineer and know exactly what you've been describing.
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Oh, one more thing: the reason given for why the update is being made available early is that it is a direct result of escalated cases in all markets. So this thread, the discussions with dealers, regulatory agency reports, etc. are clearly significant contributors to the approach that BMW is taking. Customer power :-).
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Cold Temp Steering Issue ?
Has the cold temperature steering issue been resolved ?
If so what was the fix ? Can anybody point me in the direction any technical backup that explains the remedy ? I ski 45+ days a year in Vermont. Cold temperature steering problems are a deal killer for me. Considering ordering 2020 X5 in the next few weeks or waiting till after ski season to take delivery if cold weather steering is still an issue. |
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Has anyone confirmed resolution on this issue? If you have.... what are the magic words to communicate the issue/fix to the service dept. 2019 BMW X5 40i standard suspension. Blizzak DM-V2 snow tires. Single digit temps in Colorado and I am now experiencing something very similar. Warm car (garage) no issues.... Cold Car front end feels like it is floating/ not planted/ twitchy. Very disconcerting on snowy roads.
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Hate to bump an old post, but a search led me right to this thread.
The X7 has the same issues. Took delivery in June, and recently temperatures dropped to below 20F. Almost immediately I felt the same things: - Steering feels like its making minute "adjustments" on its own, but requires constant driver intervention to stay straight - The steering feels loose when in the neutral position, and the excess play requires constant corrections like its windy. But it isn't. - The steering feels excessively loose in the neutral position, and heavier when turned in either direction. Has anybody who has had the software updates been able to confirm that it fixed the issue? |
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I’m on 07/2019.70 and it isn’t fixed. The car forces you to hug the center double yellow basically to the point where the tires are touching the line. It doesn’t like the middle of the lane. Also, any small, incremental adjustment seems very jerky and exaggerated. |
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My car is on 03/2019.30 and the dealer told me the need to replicate the issue or they can’t apply new software. Just need a cold enough day. OTA updates are one reason I wanted the X5, too bad they don’t work.
I also have intermittent CarPlay connectivity issues too. I noticed I have this recall: NHTSA Recall Number19V684 It says the remedy for this recall involves updating the software for the rear camera. Would this require applying newer software than 03/2019.xx to resolve or is it just for a single module? Last edited by edofloat; 11-20-2019 at 08:29 AM.. |
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Are you having these issues with the driver's assistance on? I find that I am constantly fighting the car since it wants to stay closer to the shoulder than I would like. I still have flukes where the car wants to drive all over. Just this morning it decided to go into the opposite lane. I doubt there's anything wrong with the car, and maybe just some sort of weird lines?
Anyway, the only weird thing I noticed that mine does with the cold happened a last week. It was around 25 degrees F and the car had been sitting for about 3 hours after a 30 min drive. It was in the sun, so the dash and all was warmer. When I got back in and the wheel and seat went into position, the steering column made a horrible grinding sound. Never had they happen before, and couldn't replicate it. Not sure if this may contribute as well. No obstructions or debris either. I had the recall and update completed back in October, and it the camera always pops up. The only oddities I've noticed are the R to D and rear/front camera handoff. It popped up on the front camera once or twice when switching gears. Also, not sure how perfect the alignment should be on all the cameras with the 360 view. The lines in a parking spot are slightly off, but not to any crazy degree like I've seen others post. |
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My car has zero steering feedback when it is acting up, it feels like you could blow on the steering wheel to move it. Flipping back and forth to sport a few time seems to get it to stop doing that. If you are using the assistant systems it feels like it ping pongs back and forth ever so slightly. It feels nervous, not steady. The issue only happens when the car has been sitting and is cold. Each time it has been less than 10 degrees F. My garage is fairly warm, this has been happening after it sits outside all day. It also can happen in the morning when it was -1 F air temp here last week. |
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Our has this issue and the dealer could not duplicate last winter.They turn off all the steering intervention and told us to put it in sport if it happens. Got updated to 3/2019.45 in spring. We had it happen last week when it was 12 degrees f. Normally happens when it sits outside all day while at work and below 10 degrees. Will take it in for update in about 1000 miles sometime next month to get tires rotated if a update fixes it.Probably will have to wait till Jan or Feb for it to get cold enough again.
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