[gadgetfreak2024]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I think the LCI has changed the situation and no longer allows both to be active. What I always do is run nav in BMW and keep Waze running (no route) on CarPlay to get the traffic notifications. I would imagine that still can be done on the LCI.

Got it. Yes, I think that is likely possible. Will try again later with Waze in passive (e.g., not actively navigating) mode on the CarPlay screen.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by gadgetfreak2024

So I just actually tried to use the native nav and Waze on my iPhone via CarPlay simultaneously and my 50e would NOT allow it. The second Waze became active, the native nav would deactivate — and vice versa. This is using CarPlay wirelessly. I tried this twice and could not get both to operate simultaneously.

What is the trick others are using on iOS to get this to work? I wonder if it's something in my Bluetooth settings between the phone and the car?

must be different in LCI then. curious, when running Waze alone, are there directions displayed in the HUD or instrument cluster? (curious if it’s now supported in the LCI. If so, then the limitations described above for Waze+BMW NAVI on Android phones would apply to the iPhone that’s connected via CP.) awaiting your reply…

[apw2607]

No, they both can't be active for route guidance. Only one can be at any one time. It was always like that .. even with pre idrive 7.

All hes saying (i think) and the way i use Waze, is to use the BMW navigation for route guidance, but simply display the Waze map (with no guidance programmed) to see hazards, traffic and police.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by apw2607

No, they both can't be active for route guidance. Only one can be at any one time. It was always like that .. even with pre idrive 7.

All hes saying (i think) and the way i use Waze, is to use the BMW navigation for route guidance, but simply display the Waze map (with no guidance programmed) to see hazards, traffic and police.

dbull2 please verify this is indeed the way you’re set up while your iPhone is connected via CarPlay: BMW active navigation + Waze map (NO active navigation). the devil is in the details with something like this, so it’s important to be exacting (hmmm I’ve heard this word before…)

[realdah]

Originally Posted by dbull2

When I travel, I set up my destination in BMW navigation, start the trip, the use Waze map in car play. That way I get the navigation direction in the head up display and warnings from Waze for police, hazards etc.. Best of both worlds

Wow, thanks, interesting to know that we can do like this... I will try myself next time too.

[gadgetfreak2024]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

must be different in LCI then. curious, when running Waze alone, are there directions displayed in the HUD or instrument cluster? (curious if it’s now supported in the LCI. If so, then the limitations described above for Waze+BMW NAVI on Android phones would apply to the iPhone that’s connected via CP.) awaiting your reply…

My experience has been that Waze does NOT show up in the instrument cluster or the native iDrive screen. It only shows up on the CarPlay interface. [Can't speak to Android]

[E91toG05]

The native bmw app has much better heads up display integration…

[apw2607]

Originally Posted by gadgetfreak2024

My experience has been that Waze does NOT show up in the instrument cluster or the native iDrive screen. It only shows up on the CarPlay interface. [Can't speak to Android]

Thats right. When used like this, the Waze map will only be shown in the carplay interface which on on the main screen.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by apw2607

No, they both can't be active for route guidance. Only one can be at any one time. It was always like that .. even with pre idrive 7.

All hes saying (i think) and the way i use Waze, is to use the BMW navigation for route guidance, but simply display the Waze map (with no guidance programmed) to see hazards, traffic and police.

I tested this on iD7 using an iPhone and was not able to get Waze to have an active route and BMW have one at the same time. Perhaps it is/was version dependent as to whether that bug was present.

[Guy Fleegman]

With regard to Android at least, nZtiZia and others explained it consistent with my experience. iDrive won't accomodate two navigation apps concurrently. Waze and Google Maps aren't built-in native applications -- they're displayed via a link to your phone. If I have a route working on Waze and try to open the native nav, the display reads something like "Navigation is active on [my phone]."

If I close Android Auto, thus disconnecting my phone from the car, I can use the native nav and open Waze for traffic info, alternative routes, etc. but they will only display on my phone.

As for the HUD or cockpit dashboard, I get very limited mapping with Waze or Google Maps. Just upcoming turns and sometimes associated lane information. The iDrive display is comprehensive.

[zsap]

From my experience in the EU, BMW navigation sucks.

1) One of the bridges in my city was closed for 2 or 3 years, but BMW was navigating me through it - and yes, I have it updated

2) It selects the worst choice of roads when I was planning my recent trip - so I defined the destination in the BMW to allow adaptive mode, but I was really using Google Maps to navigate

[MystroX5]

I only use factory GPS for all my cross country road trips. Very accurate easy to send destinations from my phone to BMW and traffic warnings have been very accurate. Heads up display also spot on and I really never have to look at anything else.

[chefwong]

I really should give the OE nav a try but just been spoiled by Waze. In former earlier years, I've diverted Wazes direction a few times and it was right about taking alternate routes when traffic dictated it....taking X route would add 20-35 more minutes due to current conditions.

[Jongp3]

I made the switch to the builtin Navigation a few weeks ago. I will never go back to CarPlay in this car.
I was a heavy Waze user and also what most consider an "Apple Fanboy" if that says anything.
If you are good with Spotify, just use the built in app. It starts playing music almost instantly.

[CeEl]

On a side note: Apple Maps will also warn of speed checks and hazards. It’s just not as popular as Waze and therefore not every speed check may be in there.

But it also has fewer false positives: if Apple Maps warns me, there is usually a speed check or a driver pulled over within a couple of miles of the warning. At least in my experience.

Edit: Waze won’t warn me of police if it thinks I am too fast. Apple Maps will warn me regardless of how fast it thinks I am going.

[apw2607]

Maybe there has being a misunderstanding. There can only be route guidance active on either BMW Nav or a Carplay navigation app (such as Waze, apple maps, or google maps) at once.

But what you can do to take advantage of some of the additional features in Carplay navigation apps, is to first set the BMW navigation route guidance to be active. Then switch the main iDrive screen to display the carplay navigation app such as Waze. Although there won't be active guidance set inside Waze, it will still show you where you are on the Waze map and warn you if there are hazards such as police or crash, etc.

That way you can have the best of both worlds. The car HUD and cluster will show you the BMW NAV active guidance info. The main iDrive screen will show you the Waze map with hazards.

[dbull2]

Originally Posted by Guy Fleegman

How can you use BMW nav and Waze/Google Maps at the same time? My display only allows one or the other. If my (Android Auto) phone is connected, it won't even let me bring Waze up on my phone to check for alternate routes, traffic, etc.

One other minor downside to BMW navigation is when selecting a designation on MyBMW app, it's hard to look for alternate routes before sending to the car.

I am using apple car play. I don't use navigation with Waze. Only used for traffic alerts. All navigation is done by bwm nav I use the trip function with about 6 destinations when I travel. Also use adaptive mode. I have a 2019 x5. Hope that helps.

[dbull2]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

dbull2 please verify this is indeed the way you’re set up while your iPhone is connected via CarPlay: BMW active navigation + Waze map (NO active navigation). the devil is in the details with something like this, so it’s important to be exacting (hmmm I’ve heard this word before…)

you're correct. BMW navigation, waze no navigation.

[mopaman]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

I only use factory GPS for all my cross country road trips. Very accurate easy to send destinations from my phone to BMW and traffic warnings have been very accurate. Heads up display also spot on and I really never have to look at anything else.

I agree with this. Sending destinations is a great feature. I also prefer the BMW nav because it has much fewer interruptions and audio alerts than maps. If there is no immediate major change in route, it is mostly silent. Maps is always telling you to “stay on the route” and giving multiple audio alerts leading up to a simple turn.

[E91toG05]

People still leave the voice/audio on for nav? With so many screens, I turn that all off (for CarPlay and BMW).

[nZtiZia]

I usually turn off voice guidance as well

[thereef510]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

"I asked BMWGenius to explain Adaptive Driving Mode in more detail, including whether or not it switches between comfort and sport depending on the situation. Here's what they said.
The Adaptive Driving Mode is a unique driving mode, separate from COMFORT, ECO PRO, and SPORT. While driving in Adaptive Driving Mode, the vehicle does not switch to COMFORT or SPORT mode automatically. However, characters of COMFORT or SPORT will be implemented, depending on the situation.

The vehicle is considering many factor to determine the optimal drive feel. Along with acceleration, steering, and speed, the vehicle is also factoring in driving conditions, braking, cornering speed, input from the xDrive system and Navigation data.

When the Navigation system has an active guidance, the Navigation data is used to anticipate curves, crossroads and type of street or road that you are driving on. For example, it can select the optimum transmission gear in advance, potentially enhancing efficiency.​

"ADAPTIVE" reacts to the current driving style. The affected control units can change their parameters on the basis of the detected driving style. This system will not use previous driving tendencies to change settings for the current trip.​""

So ever since Ive had it, I've been driving in adaptive mode, regardless of whether the navigation was on or off. it 'felt' more responsive to me in this mode, but am I to understand that it doesnt really have much value if the navigation system isnt also active?