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      02-24-2019, 04:29 PM   #23
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I just want the model numbering to be consistent with what the announced. Placing the moniker 'coupe' on a 4 door car contradicts the definition of 'coupe'.
Everyone is doing 4 (or 5) door coupés these days whether you like it or not.
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      02-24-2019, 04:33 PM   #24
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BMW build what the market is asking for... market, not us as enthusiast. That's why gran coupes, SUV, fwd, 3 cylinder etc.

Why so much hate? BMW has enough cars for everyone, just pick the right one and enjoy.
And who cares if it's called M3 or M4 or F80 or F82...?
I agree, seems to be much ado about nothing...........
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      02-25-2019, 09:14 AM   #25
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Why is it called ovaltine? Its not oval right? It should be called roundtine.
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Personally I don't care much about the 1xx-2xx-3xx-4xx thingy...
On the other hand I don't really appreciate the fact that the xx part of the number somehow indicates the power rather than the engine. I mean, the 2 liter could be a 320, 325, 330 and so on

I'm one of those that really likes the 4 GC for it's trunk versatility since I really don't like wagons.
As silly as it sounds, I also like much more the design when compared to the 3 series from which it comes from.
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      02-25-2019, 01:01 PM   #27
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Personally I don't care much about the 1xx-2xx-3xx-4xx thingy...
On the other hand I don't really appreciate the fact that the xx part of the number somehow indicates the power rather than the engine. I mean, the 2 liter could be a 320, 325, 330 and so on
Yes but how to differentiate them if all are called 320i?
Also it's not exactly a new thing. I had a 1999 316i compact with a 1,9 liter engine, for example.
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Why is it called ovaltine? Its not oval right? It should be called roundtine.
Right? And grape nuts have neither grapes nor nuts in them! Wtf??
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Yes but how to differentiate them if all are called 320i?
Also it's not exactly a new thing. I had a 1999 316i compact with a 1,9 liter engine, for example.
You are right... but it still confuses me

At the end of the day I prefer to have no badges for a cleaner look so that it probably doesn't matter much

I hope they keep the GC.
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Pretty self-explanatory. The sheep that make up the populace prefer CUVs/SUVs as sitting up "higher" gives them more confidence behind the wheel. Americans in general have always wanted big cars that are like a couch on wheels. Manufacturers can command higher prices on such vehicles.

Personally, these vehicles make me feel like I'm going to tip over when I [routinely] take corners extremely fast. The BMW and Porsche offerings are about as "fun" as they are going to get.

Also, the Gran Coupes can command premium pricing. People like me would rather be driving something sleek and "different" like those than your run-of-the-mill three-box sedan.
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Why does BMW have SUVs in so many different shapes in sizes?

Also what happened to even numbers being coupes and odds being sedan? We don't need a 2 series 4 door gran coupe.
Because SUVs sell, and it’s what Customers prefer over sedans.

Not limited to just BMW as most manufacturers (foreign and domestic) are increasing size and style of SUVs while reducing, if not discontinuing sedan models. Just look at Ford.
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      02-26-2019, 06:23 PM   #32
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??? yeah, I know. I guess there’s a point in there somewhere. Mine was responding to “what happened to even numbers being coupes and odds being sedan” and pointing out that before all the other numbers the three was either a coupe or sedan.
Actually the original 3 was a two door. I had on in 1979. The 4 door came much later unfortunately.
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Actually the original 3 was a two door. I had on in 1979. The 4 door came much later unfortunately.
I agree. I had an old E21 320i two door coupe.
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It was much better then:

3 series -> 2 doors
5 series -> 4 doors
6 series -> 2 door boulevard cruiser
7 series -> 4 door pretentious big car. Especially the L versions.
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It was much better then:

3 series -> 2 doors
5 series -> 4 doors
6 series -> 2 door boulevard cruiser
7 series -> 4 door pretentious big car. Especially the L versions.

I remember that... and Mercedes

C, E, S, CL
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I remember that... and Mercedes

C, E, S, CL
Both generations of CL65....yum!
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