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I'm glad this post came up. I've been very disappointed with my headlight performance - 4 weeks into ownership of an M50D - It has the adaptive LED lights and they aren't a patch on the lights I had in my Volvo XC90
I think, unfortunately they have been dumbed down for the US market. Maybe it’s possible to recode...
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I'm glad this post came up. I've been very disappointed with my headlight performance - 4 weeks into ownership of an M50D - It has the adaptive LED lights and they aren't a patch on the lights I had in my Volvo XC90
I think, unfortunately they have been dumbed down for the US market. Maybe it’s possible to recode...
If the two of you are discussing turning anti-dazzle back on in US, then yes, that can be coded, search the forum.
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If the two of you are discussing turning anti-dazzle back on in US, then yes, that can be coded, search the forum.
I'm pretty new to this so be patient...I don't know if anti-dazzle is synonymous with the Euro spec lazer-light program or not. I was reading where the US spec'd cars had limits on light output which effected the lazer light output as well.
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I'm glad this post came up. I've been very disappointed with my headlight performance - 4 weeks into ownership of an M50D - It has the adaptive LED lights and they aren't a patch on the lights I had in my Volvo XC90
In low beam the adaptive LEDs are brighter and project further than the Laser Lights. That is a big reason they are rated poor by the IIHS due to the glare they create.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...019#headlights
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So strange they wouldn't use the same 552 lights on the G05 that they do on the G01. I'm not in marketing so I suppose charging more money for the upgraded light with full functionality makes sense from a business stand point. The upgrade from G01 to G05 should just include the better headlights in my opinion.
But you're comparing a fully optioned out g01 to a base g05 head lights.
Then BMW shouldn't call the base lights on the G05 Adaptive LED. My G01 stickered at $67k, it isn't unreasonable to assume the G05, with a higher base price would have the same LEDs from the M40i as their standard lights (it was also pointed out the lights from the X3 M40i and the X5 40i are the same model number, but they detune them for the G05). It was maybe a dumb idea on BMWs part to have the worse lights standard, since they have gotten poor ratings from the IIHS, and a lot of people care about those safety ratings.
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If the two of you are discussing turning anti-dazzle back on in US, then yes, that can be coded, search the forum.
I'm pretty new to this so be patient...I don't know if anti-dazzle is synonymous with the Euro spec lazer-light program or not. I was reading where the US spec'd cars had limits on light output which effected the lazer light output as well.
I don't know for a fact, but I *believe* that anti-dazzle decode removal (ie coding anti-dazzle back on) on the US/Canada neutered laser lights is NOT the same thing as getting the neutered laser lights to proper Euro spec. I have not yet seen a discussion about coding to Euro spec. Nonetheless, anti-dazzle is an awesome system, works very well, and should really be part of every laser lights equipped G05 X5, so that coding is still worth it.
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In low beam the adaptive LEDs are brighter and project further than the Laser Lights. That is a big reason they are rated poor by the IIHS due to the glare they create.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...019#headlights
Say what

What about in ‘High Beam”? Same story? One of the main reasons for ordering an G05 was for the lights. Getting older and drive long trips on secondary roads a lot, so if the Laser Light option was a bad idea, then I may have to cancel out.


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I don't know for a fact, but I *believe* that anti-dazzle decode removal (ie coding anti-dazzle back on) on the US/Canada neutered laser lights is NOT the same thing as getting the neutered laser lights to proper Euro spec. I have not yet seen a discussion about coding to Euro spec. Nonetheless, anti-dazzle is an awesome system, works very well, and should really be part of every laser lights equipped G05 X5, so that coding is still worth it.
Agreed, I’m good with AD feature, I just want the full ROW LED/Laser output in high beam.
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In low beam the adaptive LEDs are brighter and project further than the Laser Lights. That is a big reason they are rated poor by the IIHS due to the glare they create.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...019#headlights

Not to be the uncaring BMW owner but I really care more about MY ability to see so with that priority, the base LED lights are good according to the testing. If only glare to oncoming cars is the reason they have been given a poor rating then I say “who cares”. We have seen this over the decades with HID’s and how low they are aimed. At least we are talking about a contained focused lake beam.

If we live in “realville” and put this in perspective, there are alot more pickups with crappy aftermarket lights aimed right in everyone’s face without and projector cut-offs for me to worry about the BMW LED focused headlights slightly being too high for oncoming drivers.

The half angle eyes is more of a issue for cosmetic reasons for me if I didn’t get the Laser lights.
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What about in ‘High Beam”? Same story? One of the main reasons for ordering an G05 was for the lights. Getting older and drive long trips on secondary roads a lot, so if the Laser Light option was a bad idea, then I may have to cancel out.
I think maybe you are misunderstanding the test results. The Laser Lights are superior to the Adaptive LEDs in both low and high beam (IIHS did not test the laser function of the high beams). If you look at the testing charts, the projection for the adaptive LEDs is beyond the optimal point hence the glare and poor rating.
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I think maybe you are misunderstanding the test results. The Laser Lights are superior to the Adaptive LEDs in both low and high beam (IIHS did not test the laser function of the high beams). If you look at the testing charts, the projection for the adaptive LEDs is beyond the optimal point hence the glare and poor rating.

To put this in perspective, the Laser lights are superior to all other lighting systems. I have owned them all and it’s not even a contest how superior the new Laser lights are even in their reduced NA functionality. Every other adaptive LED lighting system is a contest for best 2nd place.
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I'm glad this post came up. I've been very disappointed with my headlight performance - 4 weeks into ownership of an M50D - It has the adaptive LED lights and they aren't a patch on the lights I had in my Volvo XC90
I think, unfortunately they have been dumbed down for the US market. Maybe it’s possible to recode...
not only for US market. for all. there fake lens.
only one way to fix it, install there non OEM LED bulb.
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I don't know for a fact, but I *believe* that anti-dazzle decode removal (ie coding anti-dazzle back on) on the US/Canada neutered laser lights is NOT the same thing as getting the neutered laser lights to proper Euro spec. I have not yet seen a discussion about coding to Euro spec. Nonetheless, anti-dazzle is an awesome system, works very well, and should really be part of every laser lights equipped G05 X5, so that coding is still worth it.
I think you're right. For the Laser high beams there's two components at play:
1) The anti-dazzle - being able to avoid blinding uncoming traffic with high beams still on.
2) range - Euro spec is 600m and NA spec is 300m (don't quote me on those ranges but they're close).

The anti-dazzle coding only addresses the first component and not the second.
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Question on LED Headlights...

In my X5, I noted that only one (outside one) of the headlamps turn on each side (Left & Right). When i asked the dealer he said the inside LED headlights (i.e the ones next to the kidney grills) are dummy and there is no bulb in there.

Having 2 headlights with corona rings around them is the BMW design. Am already not liking the fact that the non laser versions have only the lower half of the corona rings, and now they are saying one of the headlamps is a dummy one.
Same story. After MB headlights that one just sucks. Called to BMW Russia for remedy and got the recepie - buy laser version. Nice, huh!?)
I wonder, after all those ads and hype about Laser headlight performance pushing customers to buy X5, with all those confusing terms, like Adaptive and/or LED headlights vs Laser version, can it be considered as intentional confusion of the customers? Especially taking into account the fact that g05 has worse headlight as X5 previouse model? Can it be the case to file for BMW?
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Maybe a random question on the thread.
But is it possible to have the turn indicator on the laser lights to have on while DRL are on ?
Would be really cool/aggresive if it is possible.
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I don't know for a fact, but I *believe* that anti-dazzle decode removal (ie coding anti-dazzle back on) on the US/Canada neutered laser lights is NOT the same thing as getting the neutered laser lights to proper Euro spec. I have not yet seen a discussion about coding to Euro spec. Nonetheless, anti-dazzle is an awesome system, works very well, and should really be part of every laser lights equipped G05 X5, so that coding is still worth it.
Lex do you know if the anti-dazzle coding can be done via Bimmercode?
I have a MX+ adapter on the way & would love to do it.
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I don't know for a fact, but I *believe* that anti-dazzle decode removal (ie coding anti-dazzle back on) on the US/Canada neutered laser lights is NOT the same thing as getting the neutered laser lights to proper Euro spec. I have not yet seen a discussion about coding to Euro spec. Nonetheless, anti-dazzle is an awesome system, works very well, and should really be part of every laser lights equipped G05 X5, so that coding is still worth it.
Lex do you know if the anti-dazzle coding can be done via Bimmercode?
I have a MX+ adapter on the way & would love to do it.
I would assert no without even checking too carefully. This is because when you VO* code it, you code 5 ECUs (which is a lot) and therefore the number of FDL parameters are likely large. The ECUs are BDC_BODY3, HU_MGU, FLM2 [43], FLM2 [44], KAFAS4 and at least 3 of those are currently not supported in Bimmercode.

However, VO is the simplest type of coding you can do with ESys and doesn't require acquiring a launcher which is where most people run into trouble. All you need is a Windows PC, Ethernet to OBDII cable (eBay or Amazon), ESys (easy/free download), psdzdata lite (easy/free download).

* VO coding = change car overall config (called FA) + code multiple ECUs (or even entire car) in full, not by individual FDL parameters
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