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      02-24-2020, 04:47 PM   #45
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So much tinfoil in here......
Let's come back to this after the democratic convention, you don't seem to beleive what happened to Bernie in 2016, hopefully you will beleive it when it happens yet again. This time it will be even more obvious.
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      02-25-2020, 12:29 AM   #46
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Let's come back to this after the democratic convention, you don't seem to beleive what happened to Bernie in 2016, hopefully you will beleive it when it happens yet again. This time it will be even more obvious.
I'm talking about all of it, not just the bernie.
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      02-25-2020, 06:01 AM   #47
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Economists, accountants, finance and basically anyone with business experience...

Take a look:
How Does Bernie Pay for His Major Plans?
https://berniesanders.com/issues/how...s-major-plans/

Bernie Sanders reveals 'major plans' to be funded by new taxes, massive lawsuits, military cuts.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ber...ll-explanation


"Ten years" ???
"Sue the fossil fuels industry, and then sue some more" ???

Pretty much the whole explanation sounds like one huge YIKES to me, that would throw the world economies into a blender.
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      02-25-2020, 06:10 AM   #48
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      02-25-2020, 09:28 AM   #49
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Economists, accountants, finance and basically anyone with business experience...

Take a look:
How Does Bernie Pay for His Major Plans?
https://berniesanders.com/issues/how...s-major-plans/

Bernie Sanders reveals 'major plans' to be funded by new taxes, massive lawsuits, military cuts.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ber...ll-explanation


"Ten years" ???
"Sue the fossil fuels industry, and then sue some more" ???

Pretty much the whole explanation sounds like one huge YIKES to me, that would throw the world economies into a blender.
Agreed. Not feeling the Bern.

I know the goal is to get him as the nomination so that Trump has an easier shot at beating him. The risk there is that he could actually win.

I know that seems like a long shot, but so did Trump.

Be careful what you wish for.
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      02-25-2020, 09:45 AM   #50
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Id rather take my chances with comrade sanders then another candidate on the left. Bring it Bernie
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      02-25-2020, 10:58 AM   #51
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The risk there is that he could actually win.

I know that seems like a long shot, but so did Trump.

Be careful what you wish for.
I agree. Having said that..I would like to see Amy run. I think at least if she won. The country would be fine.

With Bernie or others..our Mexican Partnership would disappear and immigrants would again stream the boarder.

One other thing..a lot of Chinese snuck through the southern boarder. The media and lefties can't seem to understand that this may well have delayed the cronavuirus coming here.
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      02-25-2020, 11:32 AM   #52
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It is hilarious to watch the Conservatives heads explode with the possible idea that Bernie could be the candidate. They are fearful that Bizarro-Trump 2.0 (Bernie) could possibly win the presidency and there would be massive snap back to the left and they would be living in a world of conservative "tears".

I don't think Bernie is a good choice for the same reasons that Trump wasn't a good choice. Trump has created this Bernie surge. Trump should be worried because he will be made a fool during the debates, assuming he actually participates. I put that at 50/50.
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      02-25-2020, 11:41 AM   #53
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It is hilarious to watch the Conservatives heads explode with the possible idea that Bernie could be the candidate. They are fearful that Bizarro-Trump 2.0 (Bernie) could possibly win the presidency and there would be massive snap back to the left and they would be living in a world of conservative "tears".

I don't think Bernie is a good choice for the same reasons that Trump wasn't a good choice. Trump has created this Bernie surge. Trump should be worried because he will be made a fool during the debates, assuming he actually participates. I put that at 50/50.
I don't think Trump will debate.
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      02-25-2020, 12:02 PM   #54
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I don't think Trump will debate.
If he thinks he will win the election anyway then he shouldn't debate. It's always the guy trailing that wants more face to face time. As far as who would win a debate between Bernie and Trump my guess is it depends on the viewer more than reality.
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It is hilarious to watch the Conservatives heads explode with the possible idea that Bernie could be the candidate.....
Guess it depends where one is...the conservatives I hang with were hoping Bernie would be the Dem nominee in '16 and we've got crossed fingers that he becomes the Democratic Party's chosen one in '20. Going into this, the biggest fear rested on HRC trying again or Biden (until he opened his mouth).
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      02-25-2020, 12:57 PM   #56
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So either DT supporters or the Ruskies may be helping Bernie but not able to prove or substantiate... WTF? Brilliant reporting.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/faceboo...nt-11582576009

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Id rather take my chances with comrade sanders then another candidate on the left. Bring it Bernie
My two cents as an outsider mind you. I'd like to think that most or at least a sufficient number of democrats won't be able to stomach how far left Bernie is and will either pinch their nose and vote for Trump or just stay home. God help you folks and by the effect us if he gets elected. You might be more fucked than us right now.
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      02-25-2020, 01:53 PM   #58
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My two cents as an outsider mind you. I'd like to think that most or at least a sufficient number of democrats won't be able to stomach how far left Bernie is and will either pinch their nose and vote for Trump or just stay home. God help you folks and by the effect us if he gets elected. You might be more fucked than us right now.
Fucked, possibility if by a streak of crazy luck he was actually elected into office but SCOTUS will still be in safe hands and unlikely hed get the senate seats to make a big difference. Even many dems in the house and senate would vote his crazy shit down, they would have to or lose constituents at home.
That said, Id like to think that the vast majority of the U.S. would not be willing to throw away the Republic for some old, bitter America hating soviet wanna be and his often proved and failed political beliefs.
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      02-25-2020, 02:27 PM   #59
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Have you listened to a group of 20 somethings these days?
I posed a link to a twitter feed where university students are asked about socialism.....not one actually knew what it was but they were all in favour of it. You'd actually hope that at a university they could learn a little about it....I know, univeristies are there to indoctrinate the young to socialism......the future looks bleak. You should see what's going on here in Canuckistan right now.
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My kids but I grew them up correctly. Yeah I know what you’re saying but I say that the vast majority of them out there are vapid maroons who don’t know which way is up and many won’t bother pulling away from their laptop games to actually go out and vote and the party know is dividing into different factions and hopefully won’t support the other branch of the party.
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I posed a link to a twitter feed where university students are asked about socialism.....not one actually knew what it was but they were all in favour of it. You'd actually hope that at a university they could learn a little about it....I know, univeristies are there to indoctrinate the young to socialism......the future looks bleak. You should see what's going on here in Canuckistan right now.
You guys already broke the ice and fell in the freezing water with your current socialist in charge and have been heading in that direction for a longtime, we’re not there yet. We have our share of extreme leftists but the mainstream dems( blue dog and other moderates) hopefully aren't ready to take it that far.
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You guys already broke the ice and feel in the freezing water with your current socialist in charge and have been heading in that direction for a longtime, we’re not there yet. We have our share of extreme leftists but the mainstream dems( blue dog and other moderates) hopefully aren't ready to take it that far.
So over the last month, "protesters" have been closing down our rail lines basically paralyzing passenger and freight service, many communities aren't getting chlorine for water purification and propane for heating.

This protest is because an LNG pipeline was approved in northern BC to ship LNG to asia, which would offset coal use and reduce greenhouse gas by significant amounts. This pipeline goes across First Nation territory, who agreed to the project because it would create jobs and tens of millions of dollars in fees to the First Nations annually. 85% of the folks on the territory voted in favour of it, so supporters of the 15% have shut down the country. We are well and truly fucked.

There are Twelve yes 12 protesters who identify as Anarchist shutting down a rail yard in Hamilton Ontario, thousands of commuters are effected, freight to and from the US can't get through as well as the daily trains that run from Toronto to NYC. Let me say that again TWELVE protesters. There are about 50 cops standing around "monitoring". They have been told not to enforce the injection that was burned by the protesters yesterday.......again, well and truly fucked. Feel the Bern.

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....and this just in, Foodora and other food delivery couriers have just won the right to form unions.....so much for take out being affordable anymore.
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I don't think Trump will debate.
Why not how can he lose? Point and laugh and ask how he plans to pay for these make believe plans.
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      02-25-2020, 05:33 PM   #66
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Her surprised moment is pretty weak. I think it's tar n feather time for Bernie by the MSM. He might even get some blows from Warren tonight. Maaaybe.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnBerma...0%2Fframe.html
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