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      12-29-2020, 08:17 PM   #23
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Just curious why you locked the doors? I thought I read you were parked in a garage. I’m assuming it’s your home’s garage...is that incorrect and you’re parked in a public garage used by others?

Not that I think it would stop the car from charging...but when you lock the car, you have systems initiated...like the alarm siren system which would also include tilt sensors. So the car has at least those systems powered up vs if you left the vehicle unlocked. Just a thought.
He is probably like many of us that have to set up to lock automatically when we walk away. My car is always locked in my home garage due to that.
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      12-29-2020, 08:51 PM   #24
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I think I have a clue, at least a hint of a clue. Trying it now, will update how it goes, so far it's looking positive.

What I am trying now -
Connected the cables under the hood terminals, ran the charger cable through a side slot out of the hood, and gently lowered the hood, did not close it completely. DID NOT LOCK THE VEHICLE.

The charging status is at stage three with no check control message "yet".

What I had observed in my previous attempts was - the check control message would appear the moment charging status will get to stage 3.

What I was doing in my previous failed attempts -
Attempt 1 - Connected the terminals under the hood, left the hood open, LOCKED THE VEHICLE.

Attempt 2 - Connected the cables under the hood, run the charger cable through a side slot out of the hood, and closed the hood completely. LOCKED THE VEHICLE.


Apparently, mild hybrid vehicles, like mine, need to be charged with the hood open (page 394 of the user manual). I had tried with the hood open earlier but was locking the vehicle and that was somehow triggering conflict.
I have the same charger. after not charging or driving the car for about 1.5 weeks, I plugged in my charger. I can't remember how long it stayed on 3, but I do know it was much longer than day. I always leave my hood open, so I don't think that was your issue. I'm thinking it may just be that your battery's charge was really low.
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      12-29-2020, 10:45 PM   #25
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Yes, it's a garage in my house and completely protected. However, my reasons to lock are laughable - I like the lock chirp and the whole light flash/mirror fold and that got me into locking. Then, recently I set up my digital key and also integrated the key to my Apple watch, and I love operating it with my watch.

For my decision to lock during the charging process, I thought that if I do not lock the vehicle then it will be in a semi-ready state and will keep consuming more battery. I did not realize that in lock state it will try to initialize some of the systems and may conflict with the trunk open position.
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      12-29-2020, 10:48 PM   #26
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I have the same charger. after not charging or driving the car for about 1.5 weeks, I plugged in my charger. I can't remember how long it stayed on 3, but I do know it was much longer than day. I always leave my hood open, so I don't think that was your issue. I'm thinking it may just be that your battery's charge was really low.
Possibly, however, in just a little over two weeks of minimal use, how low the battery could be. I am still kinda confused about this whole situation. I am planning to leave it connected for about 30 hours, as the charger manual states. If the charging stage, if the charging stage does not change then I will run out of options.
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      12-29-2020, 11:29 PM   #27
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Qsilver7 TurtleBoy

Yes, it's a garage in my house and completely protected. However, my reasons to lock are laughable - I like the lock chirp and the whole light flash/mirror fold and that got me into locking. Then, recently I set up my digital key and also integrated the key to my Apple watch, and I love operating it with my watch.

For my decision to lock during the charging process, I thought that if I do not lock the vehicle then it will be in a semi-ready state and will keep consuming more battery. I did not realize that in lock state it will try to initialize some of the systems and may conflict with the trunk open position.
...thanks, curiosity is satisfied.
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      12-30-2020, 07:34 AM   #28
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Leave the charger on for some time. Of course there is the possibility that your charger is defective.
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      12-30-2020, 09:28 AM   #29
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Exceeded the 24-hour mark, and it's still at stage 3. I will leave it on for 30 hours, if the stage does not change then will unplug. The charger guide says max 30 hours for stage three.
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      12-30-2020, 09:51 AM   #30
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I've both CTEK and NOCO and my CTEK always have issues.
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      12-30-2020, 09:53 AM   #31
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I am guessing your charger might be bad. I was having the same issue. I bought a new CTEK MXS 5.0 and set it up for agm charge. Charger ran for about 7 hours total and turned green. No errors on car. Returned the other ctek charger.
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      12-30-2020, 01:11 PM   #32
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Exceeded the 24-hour mark, and it's still at stage 3. I will leave it on for 30 hours, if the stage does not change then will unplug. The charger guide says max 30 hours for stage three.
You don't happen to have a multimeter to check the voltage at the charging terminals?
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      12-30-2020, 01:31 PM   #33
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I am guessing your charger might be bad. I was having the same issue. I bought a new CTEK MXS 5.0 and set it up for agm charge. Charger ran for about 7 hours total and turned green. No errors on car. Returned the other ctek charger.
I think so too. I just now ordered a CTEK MXS 5.0, exp[ected to be delivered this evening. Will attempt tonight using the new charger.
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      12-30-2020, 01:32 PM   #34
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You don't happen to have a multimeter to check the voltage at the charging terminals?
No, I don't. You think I should get one just to check the charging condition?
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No, I don't. You think I should get one just to check the charging condition?
It might not help you, but it would be interesting to see if the battery looks near full or not.. :-)
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      12-30-2020, 06:06 PM   #36
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A multimeter is a handy tool, but only if you know or learn how to use it safely and how to interpret the results. Otherwise, it can lead you astray and potentially be dangerous, depending on what you're measuring, and how you're doing it. A decent one doesn't have to cost a whole lot, but high quality ones with lots of useful extra features (like acv or dcv current measuring) can start to be, and may not be worth it for the average user.
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      12-30-2020, 10:39 PM   #37
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2021 X5, The same message “battery management” comes out when charging with CTEK MXS 5.0. All the doors closed except hood. The charger is still in stage 3 after 8hours, will take a look tmr morning if it will complete the charging process.
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2021 X5, The same message “battery management” comes out when charging with CTEK MXS 5.0. All the doors closed except hood. The charger is still in stage 3 after 8hours, will take a look tmr morning if it will complete the charging process.

aha, same behavior as mine using BMW charger.
I got a CTEK 5.0 and have connected on Car - AGM mode. The charging stage switched to three within minutes. I will see how it progresses. This is kinda becoming a weird situation.
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A multimeter is a handy tool, but only if you know or learn how to use it safely and how to interpret the results. Otherwise, it can lead you astray and potentially be dangerous, depending on what you're measuring, and how you're doing it. A decent one doesn't have to cost a whole lot, but high quality ones with lots of useful extra features (like acv or dcv current measuring) can start to be, and may not be worth it for the average user.
Can you recommend one? And also any tips on how to use it?
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aha, same behavior as mine using BMW charger.
I got a CTEK 5.0 and have connected on Car - AGM mode. The charging stage switched to three within minutes. I will see how it progresses. This is kinda becoming a weird situation.
I checkd my CTEK MXS5.0 this morning, it's still on stage 3 after 20hours, weird. Anyone here has no any issues when chargering 2021 x5 with CTEK 5.0?
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Can you recommend one? And also any tips on how to use it?
If you just want to check voltages and resistances, many of them out there are okay. As to a reliable brand, Fluke is top notch. That doesn't mean they are the least expensive. On any one you buy, you'd want it to be rated for at least CAT III and use banana plugs to attach to the meter as those are less likely to slide out, exposing you to potential contact with the power. This is a basic, Fluke meter https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-101-Mul...453929&sr=8-22

If you want to measure current, then they get more expensive. There are two ways to measure current, by inductance (no actual contact) or by putting the meter in series with the load, and it depends on whether you're trying to measure ac or dc current, as not all can do both.

The common lead is your reference. If you're measuring a battery, and you put the common lead on the + side and the other lead on the - side, you'd measure negative 1.5vdc or so if it was say an AA battery. If you put the common lead on the negative side, and the other on the plus, you'd read positive 1.5vdc...so, knowing where your reference point is can change the meaning of the readout you get. trying to read DCV when you have the meter set to ACV, you'd read zero, or close to it. Some manuals are better than others, and there are a lot of YouTube videos and tutorials you can view. It's easy to be mislead with a reading if you don't understand what's going on. At least most of the better meters are autoranging, so you won't damage them or get unusable answers with an overload in most anything you'd try to measure on a vehicle.
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I keep the hood fully open while have my charger on for overnight charging. No issue whatsoever.....Usually starts at stage 3 and after overnight, it comes to stage 7

Mine is CTEK MXS5.0
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I keep the hood fully open while have my charger on for overnight charging. No issue whatsoever.....Usually starts at stage 3 and after overnight, it comes to stage 7

Mine is CTEK MXS5.0
2021 x5 has 48volt system, no one knows if this's the reason

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I keep the hood fully open while have my charger on for overnight charging. No issue whatsoever.....Usually starts at stage 3 and after overnight, it comes to stage 7

Mine is CTEK MXS5.0
2021 x5 has 48volt system, no one konws if this's the reason
True, mine is V8, so no 48V mild hybrid
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