[qscpkn]

Originally Posted by bluzbra

That's fantastic! Nice work. Very good deal. Would you mind PM'ing me the dealer info?

bluzbra I just PM you the dealer info, just saw it thanks for all the useful info!

[qscpkn]

Originally Posted by bluzbra

Congrats! I'm assuming you were assigned a VIN right? I would call the BMW NA number (1-800-831-1117) > say "vehicle production status" when prompted > say the last 7 of your VIN. See what date it gives you for your estimated completion date. Typically that date moves up a couple of days, but will give you a good idea of when your car will finish production and be dispatched from the factory.

thanks! I did see a VIN is already assigned

[bluzbra]

Originally Posted by qscpkn

bluzbra I just PM you the dealer info, just saw it thanks for all the useful info!

Thanks! Very small world 😊

[bmwx5er]

Any recent experiences leasing a 40i in WA state? What is a “good” deal off MSRP, pre-incentives in WA for a car already in the lot? Does the finance credit of $2k apply here? Can’t find info on it anywhere! Thanks in advance.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by bmwx5er

Any recent experiences leasing a 40i in WA state? What is a “good” deal off MSRP, pre-incentives in WA for a car already in the lot? Does the finance credit of $2k apply here? Can’t find info on it anywhere! Thanks in advance.

I don't think anyone from WA has posted in awhile. If I remember correctly, discounts were fairly low, in the 3-5% range. The $2k credit does not apply to leasing unless that has changed recently.

[bmwx5er]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I don't think anyone from WA has posted in awhile. If I remember correctly, discounts were fairly low, in the 3-5% range. The $2k credit does not apply to leasing unless that has changed recently.

Thanks, I went to a dealer today and got about 3%!! The dealer didn’t give a breakdown - didn’t want to press as I knew it was a bad deal.

Anyone know about deals in Bay Area, California?

[512systems]

Looking to order an M50i and having trouble getting a dealer in California that will get anywhere close to 10% off MSRP before incentives. Any one have any recommendations feel free to PM...happy to pay finders fee : ) Willing to travel/ship if the deal is good. These dealers are saying they have plenty of 40i allocations but not enough M50i allocations to justify discounting heavily.

[happydanny3]

I just ordered a X6 through my SA here in Georgia. I have bought over 10 cars from him. He is super easy to work with.
MSRP $81,495
9% off MSRP plus rebates

[dtronics]

Any updates on the March lease programs?

[Milangel]

Originally Posted by 512systems

Looking to order an M50i and having trouble getting a dealer in California that will get anywhere close to 10% off MSRP before incentives. Any one have any recommendations feel free to PM...happy to pay finders fee : ) Willing to travel/ship if the deal is good. These dealers are saying they have plenty of 40i allocations but not enough M50i allocations to justify discounting heavily.

Tried the same search across the whole state early this year for an X5 M50i. The best I could get is 8% off MSRP before any incentive for leasing. One can do 9% for financing though.

[tnsatbhs]

Originally Posted by dtronics

Any updates on the March lease programs?

I don't think March programs start until tomorrow.

[doctorttt]

Folks, the delivery of my 2020 G06 is getting closer and it will be my first lease. What do I need to check on the lease agreement? (the numbers, of course, but what else?) Any insights would be appreciated.

[bluzbra]

Any update on March programs? From what I can tell on the BMW USA website, residual value for the sDrive40i went up 2% and is now the same as the xDrive40i. And the lease credit for the sDrive40i dropped $500. Not sure what the base MF is though.

[bmwx5er]

Can someone comment on the attached:

1. The correctness of the numbers. Big discrepancy from leasehackr (at least $100 more per month compared to leasehackr calculations)

2. How bad/good of a deal it is? This is in WA.

Thanks in advance!

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by bmwx5er

Can someone comment on the attached:

1. The correctness of the numbers. Big discrepancy from leasehackr (at least $100 more per month compared to leasehackr calculations)

2. How bad/good of a deal it is? This is in WA.

Thanks in advance!

For Washington that is probably a good discount. What is your tax rate as well as the MF they are quoting you? Also what is the breakdown of the "due at signing" amount?

[bmwx5er]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

For Washington that is probably a good discount. What is your tax rate as well as the MF they are quoting you? Also what is the breakdown of the "due at signing" amount?

MF of 0.00147, tax rate of 10%, and initial payment includes 7 MSDs.

On my first question- does the amount of $1160/mo add up? Leasehackr comes up with something closer to $1000.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by bmwx5er

MF of 0.00147, tax rate of 10%, and initial payment includes 7 MSDs.

On my first question- does the amount of $1160/mo add up? Leasehackr comes up with something closer to $1000.

Just estimating I would say it is pretty close to that given your tax rate but will run the numbers when I get a chance. I ran them earlier using .00142 for the MF and zero tax and it was around $1k a month so 10% tax would put it about $1,100 so they may be a bit higher. I assume the .00147 is pre-MSD, correct?

[bmwx5er]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Just estimating I would say it is pretty close to that given your tax rate but will run the numbers when I get a chance. I ran them earlier using .00142 for the MF and zero tax and it was around $1k a month so 10% tax would put it about $1,100 so they may be a bit higher. I assume the .00147 is pre-MSD, correct?

Yes, I assume 0.00147 pre-MSD. What tool are you using, and can you give a breakdown? Leasehackr calculator shows around $1030 including taxes.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by bmwx5er

Yes, I assume 0.00147 pre-MSD. What tool are you using, and can you give a breakdown? Leasehackr calculator shows around $1030 including taxes.

I'm using Leasehackr also and I come up with a monthly payment of $1,071. Their amount for the MSD's is too low though unless that signing amount does not include your first payment. You should ask them to break down all of the amounts since the numbers are quite a bit off.

Here is the link to the calculations. I don't know whether WA taxes incentives or not but treated it as taxable since most states do. Let me know if you have any questions.

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?ma...Tax_radio=true

[bmwx5er]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I'm using Leasehackr also and I come up with a monthly payment of $1,071. Their amount for the MSD's is too low though unless that signing amount does not include your first payment. You should ask them to break down all of the amounts since the numbers are quite a bit off.

Here is the link to the calculations. I don't know whether WA taxes incentives or not but treated it as taxable since most states do. Let me know if you have any questions.

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?ma...Tax_radio=true

I see that you’re using selling price as $75002, which is the adjusted cap cost - the selling price in the sheet was $72920, different from the adjusted cap cost. I’m new to the leasing world, so just curious on why you used adjusted cap cost? TIA

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by bmwx5er

I see that you’re using selling price as $75002, which is the adjusted cap cost - the selling price in the sheet was $72920, different from the adjusted cap cost. I’m new to the leasing world, so just curious on why you used adjusted cap cost? TIA

The adjusted cap cost is the selling price plus all of the fees that are being rolled into the lease minus any cap cost reduction which in this case would be zero. In the leasehackr calculator only the acquisition fee is able to be rolled into the lease since the dealer and gov't fees always go into upfront fees so if you want to use the selling price as the selling price then you will need to add all of the fees together and put them into the acquisition fee field.

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?ma...Tax_radio=true

Their numbers are definitely not reflecting the deal that is shown on your sheet. There must be some information/fees they are not showing. Their MSD calculations are also not correct since your "due at signing" amount is off. The DAS can't be your monthly payment plus 7 MSDs since the numbers don't add up. They have the DAS as 8,309.73 and your monthly payment as 1,159.73 meaning the MSD amount would be 7,150. That would mean each MSD payment would be 1,021.43 which can't be correct since an MSD payment is always rounded up to the next 50 dollars unless something has changed this year. Here is the MSD rule sheet from last year when the program was reinstated nationwide.

[bmwx5er]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The adjusted cap cost is the selling price plus all of the fees that are being rolled into the lease minus any cap cost reduction which in this case would be zero. In the leasehackr calculator only the acquisition fee is able to be rolled into the lease since the dealer and gov't fees always go into upfront fees so if you want to use the selling price as the selling price then you will need to add all of the fees together and put them into the acquisition fee field.

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?ma...Tax_radio=true

Their numbers are definitely not reflecting the deal that is shown on your sheet. There must be some information/fees they are not showing. Their MSD calculations are also not correct since your "due at signing" amount is off. The DAS can't be your monthly payment plus 7 MSDs since the numbers don't add up. They have the DAS as 8,309.73 and your monthly payment as 1,159.73 meaning the MSD amount would be 7,150. That would mean each MSD payment would be 1,021.43 which can't be correct since an MSD payment is always rounded up to the next 50 dollars unless something has changed this year. Here is the MSD rule sheet from last year when the program was reinstated nationwide.

Thanks, so that’s useful info. They came back with a revised sheet saying they messed up some calculation. Does this look right?