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Meaning in the UK from April the 50d first year is a massive 1800. With this new engine/changes, does it mean we are able to pay less tax as it's not actually producing the figures advised? Also will this be available in the UK? |
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So, while I see the M50d not being offered in all the countries that had the chance to enjoy it by now, I remain sceptical about the news that 2020 will be the end of it. |
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02-02-2020, 02:26 AM | #47 |
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There is an older iteration of he 50d engine from bmw which had three turbos and different internals but it was never available in G05. If I recall correctly, the only G Series cars that had those engines were the early G11 7 series |
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02-23-2020, 03:39 AM | #52 |
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I’m going through a similar dilemma at the moment after specking our 2020 G05.
However, I’m torn between a 40i, 30d and 40d (I’ll get to that part). I can spec the same car with a 40i and 30d and roughly come out about the same monthlies. The 30d is a great car, no doubt, but I just feel it lacks a bit of punch and pace. I’ve just come from a RR Sport and it’s quick for a huge car. The 30d doesn’t seem as nippy. I looked at 30d remaps but it’s not my preferred route. The 40i appealed to me as it has a bit more bhp for spirited driving, but the mpg I’m likely to achieve for my type of commute will be terrible. I was originally torn between the 40i and 30d, but there’s a new option in the mix...the 40d. As I’m speccing for a June delivery, the engine choices show the 40d as an option for £2500 extra. However, I risk the chance it won’t be here for June, meaning the supplementary Tech Pack on my current build could become an additional £2k as that’s predicated on a pre July delivery date. The build slots are still TBC so it’s hard to know when they are likely to be delivered. Should I roll the dice on the 40d? Settle on the 30d? Or go for the 40i and suck up the petrol costs? Any help, opinion or experiences would be greatly appreciated! Thanks MP |
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02-23-2020, 04:39 AM | #53 |
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The 40d should be good, but its a mild hybrid which has never been seen before so no reviews on how it drives or the economy. I imagine it will be great though, they'd have to really mess up to make that engine bad.
If MPG is a concern, 40d all the way! Adequate on the power & torque front, very good consumption with that mild hybrid too I'm sure. |
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02-23-2020, 09:00 AM | #54 | |
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I have the same dilemma, but on balance I am going for the 40d. It's never certain and things can change, but normally a manufacturer has a similar amount they spend on 'Marketing Programs' they just slice it a bit differently in each quarter. They sometime put more against certain vehicles in some quarters but the current offer £1000 FDA and free tech pack isn't particularly aggressive and more 'normal'. My view is if I order and miss June there is likely to be something similar, not guaranteed I know but I can't imagine would lose the whole lot... Fingers crossed... I am ordering next week.. |
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02-23-2020, 09:43 AM | #55 |
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Coming from a 40d F15 and now in a 40i G05 I much prefer the 40i. Unless you’re doing mega miles or perhaps towing I’d seriously consider the petrol option. It’s a much sweeter and refined delivery and it is seriously quick too with no apparent downside to having lower torque than in the diesel.
On a different note the fake exhaust speaker on the diesel M-Sport’s makes me cringe, I would find it embarrassing to be driving a diesel and having it pretend to sound like a petrol V8! It’s not quite as bad as the one Audi use though that’s the current day interpretation of the 80’s tea tray rear wing on a 1.4 escort! Last edited by six; 02-23-2020 at 11:21 AM.. |
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I do probably 10k miles a year with a real mix of driving. Traffic, town and city, motorway... I've always doubted petrol engines in cars this size just due to the effort the engine needs to exert to move it. Is the 40i really that good? |
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02-23-2020, 11:18 AM | #57 | |
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I do about 12K miles a year and I’m now about 5K on the clock and I couldn’t be more pleased with it. I do a lot of urban driving but also lots of motorway and longer trips and while the fuel economy isn’t as good as the 40d previously I’m more than happy to pay the premium, which is a little offset by lower £per litre of petrol over diesel. Performance wise now it’s run in I’m putting my foot down a fair bit and I’m really impressed, in sport plus and gearbox in sport it’s so responsive I have to restrain myself |
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02-23-2020, 11:22 AM | #58 | ||
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What sort of real world mpg are you getting? What does a tank cost and what sort of miles you getting? It's a bizarre one as I would have the hybrid 45e but the monthlies just don't allow for it. The miles I'll get from electric just won't offset the additional costs I reckon. I'm worried that our government apply drastic measures on diesels, before finally applying these to petrols. That being said, it's hard to see 3 months out, never mind 4 years. |
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The 45e did appeal to me too but I thought I’d give pure ICE another 3-4 year cycle and then I’m pretty sure it will be a PHEV or full EV for me. Oh and you’re right about diesel measures coming in, I travel to and though Bristol often so am super pleased I’ve gone petrol as diesel private cars are being banned other than a few off peak times Last edited by six; 02-23-2020 at 02:08 PM.. |
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Don’t forget that in the US, which is a major X5 market, there is no diesel option. There are tens of thousands of 40i’s out there and no complaints that the engine is weak or unmatched to the chassis. |
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02-23-2020, 02:40 PM | #62 | |
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In comfort mode with a stab of the throttle it will still move, but in a lazy way. Like a luxo barge. But in sport+ with the shifter to the left, its incredibly responsive and reacts immediately. Its like a different car. Of course you have varying levels of 'sport' and 'sport individual' between those 2 extremes. BMW have engineered the car very well IMO. |
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If you were in my position, what would you do? Still go for the 40i? I'm 'slightly' worried about the difference in real world running costs as I expected the 30d to be more efficient than my current RR Sport, but I'm now wondering if the 40i is going to be worse. |
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02-23-2020, 04:10 PM | #64 | |
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For the petrol 23mpg @ £1.26 per litre, its £2,490. So £1,013 difference per year, £84 per calendar month or £19 per week. Now obviously your consumption could vary, but I think for a good mix of motorway, A roads and B roads I doubt you would be too far off these figures in either car. I'm not telling you to get the 40i (even though thats what I would choose if it were me ), but if its what you prefer, I wouldn't let the running costs be the decider when you only do 10k. Decent comparison video here: Last edited by mobilejo; 02-23-2020 at 04:15 PM.. |
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Oh and just give a bit of a thought to urban clean air policy where you live and drive. It’s not that I agree with the new proposed diesel ban in Bristol because I think it shouldn’t be a blanket ban, but the reality is I don’t need to care as I’m in the petrol world and that’s a relief I have some pretty irritated friends who will be effected and are stuck with their cars for a while. |
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