[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by TacoTuesdays

Has it been confirmed anywhere US spec doesn’t have 3rd row?

Yes. The BMW NA press release shows all versions of X5 and X6 seat 5.

[Birddog10]

Does anyone have any idea of the trunk space of the M60i vs M50i?

[Gadgetluva]

Originally Posted by quad_drive

Is it expected the Tesla Model Y will lose the tax credit based on the battery origin requirements come March as well?

Speculation I have seen is that the 3 and Y will lose half the credit, so it will be left with $3750. However, we need the Treasury guidance and updated guidance from IRS to be sure.

[quad_drive]

Originally Posted by jiggie

There won't be a $7500 credit to pass thru on the 50e.

I thought it’s coming out of BMW or the dealer, not IRS. Since IX is too expensive to qualify!

[kubamatusek1]

In my opinion, X5 looks alright i but the x6. I didnt really like the pre lci x6 but holy cow the lci looks so much better. It is a bit less in the face and the lights suit it better.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by Gadgetluva

Not true anymore - the IRS updated guidelines to allow more vehicles to classify for the $80,000 MSRP, which is why now all Tesla Model Ys qualify for the full rebate until March when the Treasury Dept. releases battery guidance per the IRA (purportedly). Previously, many two-row SUVs only qualified for the $50,000 sedan credit.

If you look at the IRS website, you’ll see that the X5 45e fully qualifies currently until March, and that vehicle has no 3rd row.

Thank you for this information. It’s surprising how many people seem to be completely oblivious to the now, apparently out-of-date requirement that SUVs needed to have 3 row seating to qualify for the $80k MSRP limit. I guess we’ll have to see what develops when the revised, revised guidance is announced in March.

[hksr]

So these will be 2024 models, correct?

I presume these will run for a few years before a new gen? So 2026 being the last year?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by M3WC

BMW could offer $7500 pass through on leasing like they currently are with i4 35 and iX 50.

Sec 45W of IRA has no NA built requirement, battery minimums, msrp maximums, or income limits for leasing.

Actually they aren’t offering that. What they do have is regional lease credits and the amount varies with some areas getting zero. This won’t happen with the 50e.

[Gadgetluva]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Thank you for this information. It’s surprising how many people seem to be completely oblivious to the now, apparently out-of-date requirement that SUVs needed to have 3 row seating to qualify for the $80k MSRP limit. I guess we’ll have to see what develops when the revised, revised guidance is announced in March.

It’s been a complete mess, and you can see how these government agencies are having difficulty interpreting the IRA.

I hope they delay the battery guidance indefinitely so that more people can benefit from the tax credit, although I know there are efforts to kill the credit until the battery guidance is issued.

Messy.

[Dawane]

I dont know if this has been adressed but does anyone know why rear axle steering is only available on the M60i models ? On the previous gen it was available on all trims and engines...

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

That is a new one. Amazing how much bad information there is out there.

Perhaps out of date. I’m only now learning the guidance seems to have been temporarily changed while we await the updated guidance next month. This was significant news when it was announced a few months ago. Surprised you only appear to have learned of this now.

[mlurker]

Originally Posted by mobsync

Adaptive cruise is a very important feature to me which I use all the time. From neighborhood streets to the interstate. I've been in many different brands of vehicles with adaptive cruise and I know of none that do not have the gap adjustment buttons on the steering wheel.

Anyone else bothered by the fact that the MY24's won't have this feature so easily accessible?

Audi doesn't have it on the steering wheel

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Actually they aren’t offering that. What they do have is regional lease credits and the amount varies with some areas getting zero.

It is what is happening. $7500 lease credit only exist because of section 45W providing $7500 credit to lessors.

It is not regional, available on all i4 35 and iX 50 across US.

BMW joined a long list of brands now offering $7500 credit on leasing PHEV and EVs. Including Merc, Audi, Porshce, Volvo, Polestar, etc.

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

This won’t happen with the 50e.

In your opinion. BMW have ability to do it if they choose, due to section 45W.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Perhaps out of date. I’m only now learning the guidance seems to have been temporarily changed while we await the updated guidance next month. This was significant news when it was announced a few months ago. Surprised you only appear to have learned of this now.

It never was a requirement, you got bad information.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by M3WC

It is what is happening. $7500 lease credit only exist because of section 45W providing $7500 credit to lessors.

It is not regional, available on all i4 35 and iX 50 across US.

BMW joined a long list of brands now offering $7500 credit on leasing PHEV and EVs. Including Merc, Audi, Porshce, Volvo, Polestar, etc.


In your opinion. BMW have ability to do it if they choose, due to section 45W.

It could have recently changed. As of the other week it was regional.

[tantan911]

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It never was a requirement, you got bad information.

Not just me. Everyone paying attention “got bad information.”

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Not just me. Everyone paying attention “got bad information.”

Could be because it definitely was not true. What you are misunderstanding is that originally the IRS was going to use the DOT’s definition of an SUV. There are multiple ways to qualify as an SUV and one of them was having a third row. Others were weight, height, various angles, etc. The recent change is that the IRS will now use the EPA definition which includes more vehicles.

[mobsync]

Originally Posted by mlurker

Audi doesn't have it on the steering wheel

Yeah, but it's still on the steering column within easy reach. Not buried in some menu on the screen. Big difference.

[mynewx5]

Overall I like the update, but that Ambient light bar looks tacky as hell.

[apw2607]

Originally Posted by Raikkonen

I was thinking the same exact thing…my car currently has it, and I love it.

It did mention rear-wheel steer, which included anti-roll in the DHP pkg., but again, no mention.

It’s sad, because the Cayenne, SQ7, and SQ8 all offer it as well.

I can almost guarantee the X5M will retain it…

The uk configuration is showing the ultimate pack which includes m adaptive pro. Pro includes active steering and anti-roll. I would imagine the USA market it will be still available, although called something else.

[Tallest]

It is cool how BMWs inside now all look identical. Kind of how Audis looked identical in mid 00s and 10s from the outside.

Bravo team BMW. Didnt expect it would be a copy paste between literally every new model you launch.