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      02-02-2023, 12:36 PM   #89
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Actually that is not the case, it is a brand new engine. As BMWBlog put it "However, there are literally no carryover parts from the S63 engine to the S68. It’s an entirely new engine, with only its displacement and hot-vee design remaining similar."
https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/04/15/bmw-s68-m-division

Great article I’m all for new technology
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Unless I lived within a mile or two of a good dealer, I personally wouldn’t touch a brand new engine/LCI vehicle in year 1 if I could in any way avoid it (especially with modern electronics). Let someone else work out the inevitable kinks.

Being first on the block/standing in line overnight for that IPhone just isn’t my style.
Get the second year or third year let somebody else work. The problem is out.
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Your first BMW and you are jumping on one of the first LCI models? It is likely that there will be issues with the first LCI cars after they retool to build LCI model.
I have an 11/2018 build 2019 X5 and it has been an extremely reliable vehicle. Being that it was an entirely new platform (G05) I’ve been quite pleased after 4+ years of owner ship. I’m sure the LCI should be as reliable.
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I have an 11/2018 build 2019 X5 and it has been an extremely reliable vehicle. Being that it was an entirely new platform (G05) I’ve been quite pleased after 4+ years of owner ship. I’m sure the LCI should be as reliable.
I am an owner of a 2020 M50i and it currently sits in the shop after being bricked by an over air software update. Current estimates are that it will be sitting until parts, Body Domain Controller (BDC), are received after being on backorder, which is an estimated 6-8 weeks from MFG to BMW Service! That said, I would trust this LCI much more than a complete redesign as I believe there are known issues and potential problems that will be resolved in this iteration. I speculate that beneath the minor facelift of an LCI, issues customers have faced are worked out prior to the mid-cycle re-release of a given model. Can't say I'm not jealous of the OP who started this thread noting being first with a local dealer allocation of the M60i! I may be getting in line myself for the LCI M60i or just upgrade to the X5M!!!
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I am an owner of a 2020 M50i and it currently sits in the shop after being bricked by an over air software update. Current estimates are that it will be sitting until parts, Body Domain Controller (BDC), are received after being on backorder, which is an estimated 6-8 weeks from MFG to BMW Service! That said, I would trust this LCI much more than a complete redesign as I believe there are known issues and potential problems that will be resolved in this iteration. I speculate that beneath the minor facelift of an LCI, issues customers have faced are worked out prior to the mid-cycle re-release of a given model. Can't say I'm not jealous of the OP who started this thread noting being first with a local dealer allocation of the M60i! I may be getting in line myself for the LCI M60i or just upgrade to the X5M!!!
Myself, I would wait at least a year if possible. Completely (same but different) new setup being a MHEV now. YMMV
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Assuming the big reveal takes place tomorrow; Does anyone have any guess as to when the build sheets will become available for the M60i?
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Assuming the big reveal takes place tomorrow; Does anyone have any guess as to when the build sheets will become available for the M60i?
Should be around the time the allocation are issued, end of Feb/early March.
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i wouldn't sweat it. isn't that what warranties are for?
It's not nice having your baby in the shop - especially if you are making lease payments for an M60i and getting a crappy loaner
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Still waiting for the X5 launch. Any idea to what extent will BMW raise the price for the base models?
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Still waiting for the X5 launch. Any idea to what extent will BMW raise the price for the base models?
Guessing $3-5k. They didn't get the mid-year increase other models did so that will likely add to the price.
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where will be the new 2024 X5 be launching? on official website? can't wait to see interior...My 2023 45e will be starting production soon so trying my best to not change my mind lol
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where will be the new 2024 X5 be launching? on official website? can't wait to see interior...My 2023 45e will be starting production soon so trying my best to not change my mind lol
I’m sure they will put the info up after the launch which may stream. The interior will be exactly like the X7 but it will of course say X5.
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Where can we go to watch the (possible) stream event?
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I have not seen any information on it. It could just be they call the press into a room and do the unveiling without a lot of hype/coverage.
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I have not seen any information on it. It could just be they call the press into a room and do the unveiling without a lot of hype/coverage.
do you remember how they did it for the x7 lci?
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do you remember how they did it for the x7 lci?
If I remember correctly there was no streaming. The information was released/embargo lifted.
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If I remember correctly there was no streaming. The information was released/embargo lifted.
sorry to keep bugging, I dont follow this too closely... only now since i have a vested interested in possibly getting a 50e

when they lifted the embargo, did they release pictures, specs, options and pricing at the same time? Should we expect some of this stuff to be released at a later date?

ie mazda released some CX-90 specs last week, but didnt release pricing till a week later.
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sorry to keep bugging, I dont follow this too closely... only now since i have a vested interested in possibly getting a 50e

when they lifted the embargo, did they release pictures, specs, options and pricing at the same time? Should we expect some of this stuff to be released at a later date?

ie mazda released some CX-90 specs last week, but didnt release pricing till a week later.
You aren't bugging me. You will get some pictures and some information about some of the features and options. You will likely get a general idea of pricing for the US but specific pricing, features, options etc will probably come later in the month or beginning of next month.
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Well, we got some news today:

X5 M60i xDrive $89,300 + $995 destination and handling

At the top of their respective model ranges, the new BMW X5 M60i xDrive and BMW X6 M60i xDrive feature unique design details. Features including double bars and an M logo for the BMW kidney grille, M exterior mirror caps in high-gloss black, and exhaust tailpipe trim in a quad-pipe style speak to the high performance attributes of the 8-cylinder models.

M Sport brakes with a choice of red or blue calipers, and an M Sport exhaust system

New paint colors include Marina Bay Blue metallic for the X5 M60i xDrive. Blue Ridge Mountain metallic, Brooklyn Grey metallic, Skyscraper Grey metallic and Frozen Pure Grey metallic are new additions to the color range.

The fully digital BMW Curved Display is at the heart of the interior redesign for the new BMW X5 and new BMW X6. It is made up of a 12.3-inch information display behind the steering wheel and a control display with a screen diagonal of 14.9 inches – both located behind a single glass surface. The touch control functionality of the BMW control display has brought about a significant reduction in the number of buttons and controls in favor of digital control for various functions.

Sensafin surfacing for the dashboard and a highly functional light bar.

The newly designed dashboard serves as the perfect stage for the BMW Curved Display. Its horizontal structure emphasises the width of the cabin, while the surfacing in standard leather-like Sensafin deepens the premium character of the interior. The central air vents in the new BMW X5 and new BMW X6 are extremely slim and integrated into the instrument panel almost out of sight.

Another new interior feature is the ambient light bar with crystalline surface structure and crisp LED backlighting integrated below the trim element in the front passenger area. Interior light distribution, brightness, and choice of 15 colors can be configured via the iDrive menu. The ambient lighting system’s range of functions also includes the Welcome Light Carpet – which projects an unique graphic on the ground alongside the vehicle when the doors are unlocked or opened – and pulsating light signals that appear on the inner panelling of an open door when the engine is running.

Control panel in the center console with new toggle gear selector.

Additional touch-sensitive surfaces are found on the new version of the control panel on the center console. It is home to the iDrive controller, engine start/stop button, and the buttons activating the electric parking brake, and the settings for the optional air suspension. Also found here are the Driving Experience Control buttons and the newly designed toggle gear selector.

Exclusive glass applications for the selector toggle, the start/stop button, and the iDrive controller are included with the optional Executive Package.

Latest-generation 48V mild hybrid technology for the internal combustion engines.

Electrification in the form of 48V mild hybrid technology enhances the effortless power delivery in the ICE variants of the new BMW X5 and BMW X6, while also increasing their efficiency. The 6 and 8-cylinder combustion engines are combined with an 8-speed Steptronic Sport transmission with an integrated electric motor. The electric motor generates an output boost of up to 12 hp and 147 lb-ft of torque, helping the engine to deliver a smooth, dynamic drive along with high efficiency. The electric motor has the additional effect of enabling smoother operation of both the Automatic Start/Stop function and the coasting function active when the ECO PRO mode is selected.

The energy required for the electric power boost is stored in a 48V battery located in the engine compartment. It is charged during overrun and braking by means of adaptive recuperation and also feeds the regenerated energy to the vehicle’s electrical system.

New V8 for the M60i models.

The BMW X5 M60i xDrive and X6 M60i xDrive models are both powered by a newly developed TwinPower Turbo V8 engine. The 4.4-liter power unit can trace its genes back to engines used in motorsport, and utilizes the thermodynamic benefits of a cross-bank exhaust manifold, bank-symmetrical turbochargers, and external engine oil cooling. In addition, a reinforced crankshaft drive, further developed turbocharging with a blow-off valve, a new oil pump, and a weight-minimized oil sump all play a role in increasing the engine’s efficiency. The engine is paired with 48V mild hybrid technology to produce superior response and power delivery under acceleration.

In both models, the S68 engine produces 523 hp and peak torque of 553 lb-ft. It propels the new X5 M60i xDrive and new X6 M60i xDrive from 0 to 60 mph in just 4.2 seconds in preliminary testing.

Optional chassis systems in newly structured packages.

The Adaptive M Suspension fitted as standard on the X5 M60i, X6 xDrive40i, and X6 M60i models and optional on X5 sDrive40i, X5 xDrive40i, results in a noticeably more direct connection to the road. Electronically controlled dampers refine handling dynamics as well as primary ride comfort. Electromagnetically adjustable hydraulic valves allow the compression and rebound settings to be adapted in unison to suit the driving situation. The dampers respond adaptively both to road surface conditions and to driving style. The driver can use the Driving Experience Control switch to choose between a comfort-focused mode and a stiffer damper setting for a sportier response.

The optional adaptive two-axle air suspension (standard on X5 xDrive50e) with automatic self-levelling employs an electrically driven compressor with pressure reservoir to maintain the optimum ride height at all speeds, regardless of how much load is being carried. The result is comfortable, assured handling. The ride height is automatically lowered by 10 millimeters at speeds above 86 mph.

Integral Active Steering for greater agility, comfort and maneuverability.

Integral Active Steering is now standard on M60i versions of the new BMW X5 and BMW X6 and has a beneficial effect on the vehicles’ agility, driving comfort, and maneuverability.

With Integral Active Steering, the rear wheels are turned in either the same direction as or the opposite direction to the front wheels, depending on road speed. This results in highly dynamic cornering abilities and assured lane changes at high speeds. Furthermore, the rear wheels can now be turned by up to three degrees until the vehicle is nearly stopped, reducing its turning circle when maneuvering into and out of parking spaces.

All 2024 X5s and X6s are fitted as standard with 20-inch wheels mounted on all-season runflat tires. Performance runflat tires are available in a 21-inch size, and performance non-runflat tires are available in a 22-inch size. Customers can choose from a selection of standard, M, and BMW Individual alloy wheels in 20, 21, and 22-inch sizes.

Driving Assistant Professional Package now offers Highway Assistant.

The new Highway Assistant, part of the optional Driving Assistance Professional Package, ushers in a new dimension of assisted driving in the 2024 BMW X5 and X6, bringing with it new levels of convenience and stress-free travel over long distances. It allows the driver to take their hands off the steering wheel when driving on limited access highways at speeds up to 85 mph. Drivers must, however, always maintain focus on the road ahead and be prepared to assume responsibility for steering.

Assisted View in the instrument cluster gives the driver an overview of the activated systems and their functionality. The central area of the information display is reserved for a three-dimensional mock-up of the vehicle and its surroundings. Here, the driver can see an image of the cars, trucks and motorcycles detected by the cameras and sensors in the driver’s current lane, along with those in any adjacent lanes.

Parking Assistant Professional: enter and exit spaces by smartphone.

Drivers can also benefit from greater assistance when parking and maneuvering. The standard Reversing Assistant offers the option of automated reversing in confined spaces or situations where the driver does not have a clear view, such as multi-story parking garages or narrow curving driveways. The vehicle can store the steering movements for any section the vehicle has just driven forward through at no more than 22 mph. The system is then able to reverse the vehicle for distances of up to 50 meters by steering it back along the same route.

On models fitted with the optional Parking Assistant Professional, the Reversing Assistant is able to store steering movements for distances of up to 200 meters and then reproduce them in reverse. Furthermore, drivers now have the ability to control maneuvers into and out of especially tight parking spaces from outside the vehicle using the My BMW App on their smartphone (available for Apple iPhones with operating system iOS 16.2 or later).

In addition, the Maneuver Assistant now included in the Parking Assistant Professional package is able to store far more complex maneuvers using GPS data and the trajectory data from steering movements, and perform them as an automated routine. As many as ten maneuvers at different locations, covering a distance of up to 200 meters each and a combined total of 600 meters, can be recorded. When the vehicle arrives at a memorized starting point, the Maneuver Assistant will be able to carry out all the tasks required to complete the maneuver, controlling the accelerator, brakes and steering, as well as changing gear to move forward or reverse. If necessary, the vehicle can switch between the two directions of travel repeatedly while carrying out all the gear changes and steering inputs, for example when negotiating its way through a parking garage with little space and sharp corners. While the automated maneuver is in progress, the driver can focus on monitoring the vehicle’s surroundings.

Drivers have the choice of controlling both the automated parking functionality and the Maneuver Assistant’s actions either from inside the vehicle or remotely using their iPhone. It is also possible to switch between the two modes, meaning that once an automated parking or other maneuver has begun, it can be interrupted at any time and then resumed from inside the vehicle or from outside using a smartphone.

BMW Curved Display and latest-generation BMW iDrive.

The new BMW X5 and new BMW X6 are fitted with the latest-generation BMW iDrive multi-sensory vehicle interface powered by BMW Operating System 8. Boasting new-generation software as well as powerful connectivity and data processing, it takes the interaction between the driver and vehicle into the digital future. The new BMW iDrive system offers more ways for drivers to enjoy easy, intuitive, multimodal control of vehicle, navigation, infotainment, and communication functions and also to use digital services.

The user experience is supported by the seamless interaction between the touchscreen BMW Curved Display, the voice control, the iDrive controller, and the multifunction buttons on the steering wheel. The display and operation system has been upgraded to include the latest version of the BMW head-up display, which offers a larger display area, enhanced graphics and additional content. The user experience can also be expanded to include the optional BMW Gesture Control.

Fully digital BMW Curved Display with state-of-the-art graphics.

The BMW Curved Display in the new BMW X5 and the new BMW X6 is formed by a 12.3-inch information display and a control display with a screen diagonal of 14.9 inches. The screens are housed together behind a curved glass surface, so they merge into a single, fully digital, high-resolution unit. With its ergonomic, driver-centric positioning, the BMW Curved Display makes the already intuitive touch control even more user-friendly.

The BMW Curved Display’s state-of-the-art graphics and the operation system’s menu structure have been designed with a smartphone-style appearance. The clearly structured arrangement of widgets on the control display’s home screen provides a simple overview of the menu options and can be configured by the driver as desired.

Natural dialogue with the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant.

The new generation of BMW iDrive also sees the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant gain additional skills. Instructions in natural speech can be used to adjust the air conditioning, open a window or operate the panoramic glass roof, for instance. Various functions of the driver assistance systems in the new BMW X5 and BMW X6 can likewise be voice controlled. The BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant is also capable of recognizing user behavior and proactively making suggestions to the driver on how the vehicle can best be used.

When the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant is in use, new graphics appear in the displays to emphasize the system’s interactive character. The graphic “turns” towards the speaker, thereby visualizing how the system is listening attentively to what is being said.

Precision navigating with Augmented View in the information display.

The new Augmented View function included as part of the BMW Live Cockpit Professional enables accurate guidance while driving by supplementing the navigation system’s map view. A live video stream from the driver’s perspective can be shown on either the control or information display and augmented by supplementary graphics that provide more specific, situation-based information. When dealing with confusing junctions, for instance, an animated directional arrow is integrated into the video image to help the driver take the best turn-off for the planned route.

Welcome Scenario with lighting effect and personal greeting.

The user experience starts before the driver has even reached the vehicle thanks to a newly devised Welcome Scenario. Ultra-wideband (UWB) radio technology determines the precise location of the key or compatible smartphone relative to the vehicle. Once the distance to the vehicle drops below three meters, the coordinated welcome sequence begins. It starts with an orchestrated lighting effect using the exterior and interior lights, including the light carpet. The vehicle automatically unlocks when the driver is about 1.5 meters away. Once inside, the BMW Curved Display shows a choreographed start-up animation with a personal greeting, along with handy suggestions and information. Finally, the BMW ID settings are loaded, and the smartphone connected.

BMW Digital Key Plus.

BMW’s Comfort Access keyless entry system now also includes the BMW Digital Key Plus. This enables customers to lock and unlock their BMW X5 or BMW X6 via security-enhanced ultra-wideband (UWB) radio technology from a compatible smartphone running either the iOS or Android operating system. A conventional car key is no longer required. Simply approaching the car or walking away triggers the unlocking or locking process; there is no need for the customer to even remove their smartphone from their pocket.

The BMW Digital Key Plus can be set up using the My BMW App. The car owner can also share it – and therefore access to the vehicle – with up to five other users who have a smartphone with either iOS or Android.

Emotionally engaging drive sound, even in locally emission-free driving mode: BMW IconicSounds Electric for the BMW X5 xDrive50e.

With BMW IconicSounds Electric included as standard, the joy of driving while generating zero local emissions is accompanied by a special sound design inside the vehicle that provides authentic aural feedback to every movement of the accelerator pedal.

The car’s soundtrack was developed as part of a collaboration between the BMW Group and film score composer Hans Zimmer. Different versions of the model-specific drive sound are created depending on the mode selected with the Driving Experience Control switch. Pressing the start/stop button additionally triggers an inspiring acoustic tone that signals the car is ready to drive.

Innovative functions for fully electric driving and user-friendly charging with the BMW X5 xDrive50e.

The BMW Charging range of services has now also been integrated into the My BMW App. For example, the user can now control charging of the car’s high-voltage battery remotely by smartphone. Their preferred departure time can be entered to display the charge level the battery is expected to have reached by that point. And when the vehicle is plugged in, charging can be started or stopped at any time from the My BMW App, regardless of the charge level.
The BMW Charging range of services has now also been integrated into the My BMW App. For example, the user can now control charging of the car’s high-voltage battery remotely by smartphone. Their preferred departure time can be entered to display the charge level the battery is expected to have reached by that point. And when the vehicle is plugged in, charging can be started or stopped at any time from the My BMW App, regardless of the charge level.

Optimum connectivity with 5G and Personal eSIM.

The standard Personal eSIM allows the customer to use the communications and connectivity functions covered by their mobile contract from their vehicle with ease – even in situations where they don’t have their smartphone with them. This essentially turns the BMW X5 or BMW X6 into another digital and connected device. Mobile reception for both data and phone calls is significantly improved by the vehicle’s own 5G antenna system. Furthermore, the Personal eSIM is not linked to just one car, but the user’s BMW ID – meaning it can be transferred to other BMW vehicles with Personal eSIM functionality. The Personal eSIM also creates a WiFi hotspot in for use by up to ten devices at any one time.



I am pretty happy and we knew most of this was coming. Price hike of $3,900 from M50i to M60i seems just about right ($85,400 to $89,300)
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Meant to include a pic of the Interior. Notice the "M" on the dash rather than X5 as well as the M-style mirrors, which wasn't confirmed until today
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new BMW X5 (exception: BMW X5 M60i xDrive).
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2023 X5 xDrive M50i $85.4k
2024 X5 xDrive M60i $89.3k

=$3,900 Price increase and/or 4.57%
(both have a $995 D/H Fee)
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