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      10-16-2019, 05:29 AM   #243
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Exactly, thats what GAP insurance is for.

In all fairness, this might sound odd, but I wouldn't want to sit in the car, yet alone touch the steering wheel if I knew some low life had decided to take it for a joy ride.
My sentiments exactly.

My insurance did however request for me to have a dashcam fitted.

Luckily I have drive recorder so I didn't need to get an aftermarket fitted before driving away from the showroom, but I soon fitted a proper one after finding out the limitations of that system.
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My sentiments exactly.

My insurance did however request for me to have a dashcam fitted.

Luckily I have drive recorder so I didn't need to get an aftermarket fitted before driving away from the showroom, but I soon fitted a proper one after finding out the limitations of that system.
Are you with AXA?
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Are you with AXA?
Yep, also already had the wife's car with them which allowed me to get a 15% discount on the policy. Was the cheapest by far. And when I say far I mean almost 50%...
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what are people averaging mpg wise from the 30d?
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On a clear run down the m6 from Manchester to Birmingham around 44mpg

However on a combined cycle around 38 mpg with a split of 75/25 long steady driver vs inner city stop start
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On a clear run down the m6 from Manchester to Birmingham around 44mpg

However on a combined cycle around 38 mpg with a split of 75/25 long steady driver vs inner city stop start
So ive done 670 miles in the month of ownership and average around 29mpg, although that was mainly in town with probably around 180 motorway miles.

I also guess this will creep up slightly once car is run in properly and passes the 1200 mile mark (at which point im considering a remap)
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On a clear run down the m6 from Manchester to Birmingham around 44mpg

However on a combined cycle around 38 mpg with a split of 75/25 long steady driver vs inner city stop start
So ive done 670 miles in the month of ownership and average around 29mpg, although that was mainly in town with probably around 180 motorway miles.

I also guess this will creep up slightly once car is run in properly and passes the 1200 mile mark (at which point im considering a remap)
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On a clear run down the m6 from Manchester to Birmingham around 44mpg

However on a combined cycle around 38 mpg with a split of 75/25 long steady driver vs inner city stop start
So ive done 670 miles in the month of ownership and average around 29mpg, although that was mainly in town with probably around 180 motorway miles.

I also guess this will creep up slightly once car is run in properly and passes the 1200 mile mark (at which point im considering a remap)
Majority of my driving is motorway,

I'd be very interested to learn about your remap, what are you looking for? Efficiency or power?
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Majority of my driving is motorway,

I'd be very interested to learn about your remap, what are you looking for? Efficiency or power?
Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.
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Majority of my driving is motorway,

I'd be very interested to learn about your remap, what are you looking for? Efficiency or power?
Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.
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Majority of my driving is motorway,

I'd be very interested to learn about your remap, what are you looking for? Efficiency or power?
Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.

Sounds awesome

I'm about 10mpg down from what I was getting from my 420d which I'm pretty happy about

Those sorts of power figures are nuts!

I know the 40d units are twin turbos so would assume they're staged and deliver the power differently

Funnily enough Joe Achilles was reviewing the 30d G05 and has a 740d, said he'd rather drop down to the 30d as he prefers the engine.

Having said that, I'd love 300bhp out of mine
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Majority of my driving is motorway,

I'd be very interested to learn about your remap, what are you looking for? Efficiency or power?
Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.
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Majority of my driving is motorway,

I'd be very interested to learn about your remap, what are you looking for? Efficiency or power?
Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.

Sounds awesome

I'm about 10mpg down from what I was getting from my 420d which I'm pretty happy about

Those sorts of power figures are nuts!

I know the 40d units are twin turbos so would assume they're staged and deliver the power differently

Funnily enough Joe Achilles was reviewing the 30d G05 and has a 740d, said he'd rather drop down to the 30d as he prefers the engine.

Having said that, I'd love 300bhp out of mine
Thing is, it would be better than a 40d as a remap almost always provides a far smoother power delivery.

Think I'll take the plunge soon and report back
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I couldn't find an option for the G05 on that site SA Tuning?

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Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.
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Mixture of both. I want a little more oomph - despite coming from a G30 520d id like a little more, but, coming from a G30 520d, i wouldnt mind a touch more economy.

My 520d averaged around 36mpg in the same cycle as the X5, so if i got it up to 32ish, id be chuffed.

I'm looking at this product:

https://satuning.co.uk/truetune/

It will allow for 310bhp and 720nm of torque. That's virtually the same power as the F15 40d but 90nm more torque which is bonkers. That took 5.9 0-60

A G11 740d which i drove some time ago for a few days was 315bhp and 680 tourque doing 0-60 in 5.2 seconds so i guess a remapped G05 will be somewhere in between due to its brick like aerodynamics and weight. I'd be completely happy with that and the increased torque will make it more fun and frugal in the mid range.

It seems people like Celtic Tuing will give you 330bhp and a mammoth 790nm of torque which boggles the mind really and it seems overkill, especially on the gearbox. Thats more than the M50d

They also have a unit which plugs into the obd and remaps and I think this is the best route to go down for peace of mind even when taking down to the dealers.
Site not updated. Look under X3/4 with 3.0d engine. Same engine + ECU mix, same figures achievable
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Please keep us posted when you get yours done, it would be interesting to see the gains you make. The only thing I couldn't figure out, does the truetune device need to stay in the car connected all the time or just the once?

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That's interesting, my M50D is touching 800miles in c6 weeks and roughly 200 miles of motorway rest is city and I'm averaging between 24-25mpg.
Need to make a trip down south to see how well it does in Eco mode, if I can compose myself to keep it in Eco

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So ive done 670 miles in the month of ownership and average around 29mpg, although that was mainly in town with probably around 180 motorway miles.

I also guess this will creep up slightly once car is run in properly and passes the 1200 mile mark (at which point im considering a remap)
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Please keep us posted when you get yours done, it would be interesting to see the gains you make. The only thing I couldn't figure out, does the truetune device need to stay in the car connected all the time or just the once?

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Site not updated. Look under X3/4 with 3.0d engine. Same engine + ECU mix, same figures achievable
Nope, plug in, device saves your stock file, uploads tuned file, unplug.

When you want to revert, plug in, device downloads the tunes file, uploads your stock one again and unplug
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Well we went into the dealers on the 23 sept not really sure what we were looking for and came away with an X5 30d m Sport with a whopping 19% discount if we could take delivery by the 30th.
Carbon black
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M Sport plus with 22 inch non run flats
3 row seats.
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Travel and comfort.
2.9%apr. All in all a very good deal.

However as we had to take a stock car i looked on the website to see what it should have, and everything on there is for a 20 build car. Ours was June 19.
WhereÂ’s the drive recorder, the black grill, black exhaust tips etc. Bmw not good at giving the info out.
We collected the car on a cloudy day after they had applied the Autoglym LifeShine. Its going back in in 2 weeks time to have it all stripped off. machine polished and reapplied. So many swirls. Its not the LifeShine thats the problem. Its the fact that the car needs to be prepped properly before its applied. You live and learn. Detailed next time.
The car also has a recall. Well they call it a customer experience upgrade. Not sure what that entails but they need a whole day.

Now the positives. I love the torque. Engine very smooth. Air suspension fabulous. M sport exhaust gives great sound and not just inside. When its active at the back end it sounds so much better.
Was going to change the exhaust tips to black but changed my mind. The chrome ones stand out so well on a black car. If i had a white car i would definitely do it. Same with the front grille.
So probably best that i did get the 19 build and not the 20.

My friend worked at bmw for 10 years. He says the minute you remap the ecu they invalidate your warranty. In some cases it sends it via wifi to bmw. Or it will appear in the diagnostics. Some plug in boxes claim they are undetectable and that might be true to start with but its a constant battle between bmw and the tuners who try to keep things ahead of the software that detects these thing. Not worth loosing your warranty for imho.
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Well we went into the dealers on the 23 sept not really sure what we were looking for and came away with an X5 30d m Sport with a whopping 19% discount if we could take delivery by the 30th.
Carbon black
Tech pack
M Sport plus with 22 inch non run flats
3 row seats.
Clarity glass elements
Travel and comfort.
2.9%apr. All in all a very good deal.

However as we had to take a stock car i looked on the website to see what it should have, and everything on there is for a 20 build car. Ours was June 19.
WhereÂ’s the drive recorder, the black grill, black exhaust tips etc. Bmw not good at giving the info out.
We collected the car on a cloudy day after they had applied the Autoglym LifeShine. Its going back in in 2 weeks time to have it all stripped off. machine polished and reapplied. So many swirls. Its not the LifeShine thats the problem. Its the fact that the car needs to be prepped properly before its applied. You live and learn. Detailed next time.
The car also has a recall. Well they call it a customer experience upgrade. Not sure what that entails but they need a whole day.

Now the positives. I love the torque. Engine very smooth. Air suspension fabulous. M sport exhaust gives great sound and not just inside. When its active at the back end it sounds so much better.
Was going to change the exhaust tips to black but changed my mind. The chrome ones stand out so well on a black car. If i had a white car i would definitely do it. Same with the front grille.
So probably best that i did get the 19 build and not the 20.

My friend worked at bmw for 10 years. He says the minute you remap the ecu they invalidate your warranty. In some cases it sends it via wifi to bmw. Or it will appear in the diagnostics. Some plug in boxes claim they are undetectable and that might be true to start with but its a constant battle between bmw and the tuners who try to keep things ahead of the software that detects these thing. Not worth loosing your warranty for imho.
Which dealership you bought from?
I have 20% last month, but didn't take the delivery.
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I've done 3300 so far and averaging 29mpg. Long motorway run saw nudging 33,34mpg. If it's like the G30, I expect a fair step change improvement around 8,000-10,000. That saw long runs jump from 43-45 to 55-8.

However...someone ran into the back of me last night, so at the moment its not going anywhere. Fingers crossed, it looks to be cosmetic than structural - while no doubt expensive in terms of the number of parts, should be straight forward
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I've done 3300 so far and averaging 29mpg. Long motorway run saw nudging 33,34mpg. If it's like the G30, I expect a fair step change improvement around 8,000-10,000. That saw long runs jump from 43-45 to 55-8.

However...someone ran into the back of me last night, so at the moment its not going anywhere. Fingers crossed, it looks to be cosmetic than structural - while no doubt expensive in terms of the number of parts, should be straight forward
Sorry to hear that....
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So MPG update.

Car is now at around 3.5k miles

This is majority motorway miles this week.

Full take so 75 litres (16.5 gallons) and got 660 miles, which calculates to around 40mpg and 14.6p per mile. That was in eco pro mode the whole time on the motorway and adaptive when off the motorway.

Pretty impressed with that
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Sorry to hear that....
Thanks. I don't want to jinx it but so far been very impressed
- driving a courtesy truck, sorry, a 19 plate Discovery, within 2 hours of the call
- insurer agreed to use my BMW workshop and arranged within 4 hours
- and probably being carted off to the bodyshop within 8 hours
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So MPG update.

Full take so 75 litres (16.5 gallons) and got 660 miles, which calculates to around 40mpg and 14.6p per mile.
Pretty impressed with that
That is encouraging!

Quick question - how did you work it out as 14.6p? Isn't it nearer 7p? Just been sat here working out the same thing so not being funny, just coincidence and getting quite different answer!
I did my calc like this:
Total miles/total cost=cost per miles
total cost 75 litres at £1.23 per litre- £92.25
660/£92.25 = 7.15?

Having been on the phone all day to insurance companies though I may have lost the plot completely!
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