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      09-30-2023, 08:40 AM   #67
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This review just got published a few days ago and references the Cayenne GT Turbo.

https://youtu.be/COW-gVXVFQ4?si=SugVAEJQ4WyWbyr5
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I opt for a Cayenne GTS Coupe over a similarly priced X5M Comp. X5M is a great SAV just wasn’t my favorite.

The X5M is faster than my GTS in a straight line, 3.9 for gts is def not slow though. Exhaust sound is fantastic, driving, handling feel, steering feel I felt were superior in the GTS. It feels more buttoned down, is 450 lbs lighter and feels more nimble. The massive wheel gap on the X5M I didn’t like either. The air suspension on the gts is magical

I would choose a turbo GT over a X5M 10 out of 10 times. I don’t really see them as competitors either

I’ve owned far more BMW’s than any other brand, many m cars most recent f90 M5 a few years ago. Love the brand.
Thanks for this info…I was thinking about picking up a Cayenne GTS Coupe. I think a set downpipes and a Cobb tune would be a nice upgrade in the speed department. I had a 958.1 Cayenne Turbo S in the past but the tech was severely lacking and the transmission was abysmal.
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DUN DUN DUN....... It's here.


The numbers for both a lease as a opex writeoff and the nice little special of I can't section 179 this thing means it's an anchor. Check out curb weight, 5900lbs which means do not pass go do not collect 80% bonus depreciation first year. If I lease, I could literally get a Rolls Royce Ghost for this much and they lease terribly. A DBX707, Urus Performante S and a 280k Bentayaga are better than this by over $1k a month. I was also so generously offered a one pay lease, which would be very nice for the writeoff... 24 months 15k miles for $126k.....



Still worse; If I buy and title and flip to a broker I take an instant 30k bath.


I like the car I think it will look pretty mean if I lowered it but jesus christ. This thing to own is a financial nuclear bomb. It still gets worse, dealer won't promise in writing an allocation for a 2RS, the only real reason to get this stupid thing. I'm 95% on passing on this thing because I'm just not interested in the real depreciation and ownership structure of this. I could get a Urus for literally less money. Or a Rolls or something equally stupid.
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DUN DUN DUN....... It's here.


The numbers for both a lease as a opex writeoff and the nice little special of I can't section 179 this thing means it's an anchor. Check out curb weight, 5900lbs which means do not pass go do not collect 80% bonus depreciation first year. If I lease, I could literally get a Rolls Royce Ghost for this much and they lease terribly. A DBX707, Urus Performante S and a 280k Bentayaga are better than this by over $1k a month. I was also so generously offered a one pay lease, which would be very nice for the writeoff... 24 months 15k miles for $126k.....



Still worse; If I buy and title and flip to a broker I take an instant 30k bath.


I like the car I think it will look pretty mean if I lowered it but jesus christ. This thing to own is a financial nuclear bomb. It still gets worse, dealer won't promise in writing an allocation for a 2RS, the only real reason to get this stupid thing. I'm 95% on passing on this thing because I'm just not interested in the real depreciation and ownership structure of this. I could get a Urus for literally less money. Or a Rolls or something equally stupid.
Those numbers are laughable
I was going for the ‘23 Cayenne Turbo or used Turbo GTS (2k miles or less) and the numbers just didn’t make any sense. They’re out of their gourds for those figures. Needless to say I went ‘24 X5M it just makes sense. I won’t use paper cash 💵 to fuel my furnace 🔥 IJS I’m not a lottery winner or a trust fund baby…
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Wow those numbers are insane to say the least. None of it makes any sense even if you are filthy rich for this type of car.
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I got the X5M cause it was so much cheaper than the Porsche. And not like it’s a lot slower. Toss in catless downpipes and a tune, now it’s extra exotic sounding

BMWs are great. Luxury and short option lists because they cars have most things included. Porsches are wild because their online configuration tool makes every car very individual and two options will shoot the price up $100k hahaha.

I was a big GM fan with their shared platforms, but not so much with VAG vehicles. They’re very nice, I just prefer the look and style (and price) of BMW. But Porsche and Lamborghini will always be what they are. Just not for me with an Audi engine. If that Urus came with an NA V10 though, forget about it.
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Wow those numbers are insane to say the least. None of it makes any sense even if you are filthy rich for this type of car.
That's literally what I'm saying here. I can attach this to one of my companies for a lease writeoff sure, but there are so many better options in that price bracket. It's hard to commit.
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      11-04-2023, 11:04 AM   #74
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Awe. Tough problems. Haha. How about the Ferrari Purosangue. Call it a tax write off because it’s medicinal.
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Awe. Tough problems. Haha. How about the Ferrari Purosangue. Call it a tax write off because it’s medicinal.
Impossible to get an allocation for the V12 variant unless you're an "existing v12 customer".
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I have owned 911 as well as bmw X5. For me, if u alrdy having a sportscar, no reason to dwell into suv beater.

Its waste of money.
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