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      02-23-2019, 10:21 AM   #3081
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In the end it is not about the arrow it is about the indian. There is no magic bullet. There is no stopping power when it comes to handguns. Accuracy is more important that what bullet you are using. The Black Talon is ancient bullet tech by todays standards. The current Winchester Ranger T with the STX bullet replaced the old Talon years ago. The advancement in bullet tech is why everyone, like the FBI, is going back to 9mm. I will take accuracy over speed. It is all about delivering fast effective hit no matter what bullet you are using. Pretty much any of the modern hollow points in any caliber 9mm and above will be effective if you do your part.

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I have a couple of old pistols - the '03 Colt hammerless and a '07 Savage. Both are .32, family hand-me-downs, ain't worth nothing but to me, but they still shoot well.

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      02-23-2019, 10:24 AM   #3083
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Beautiful trio you have there Rella. I especially like the carbine, IBM one of the premium makers, Winchester low wood stock in spectacular shape and a Bavarian return. The Germans really took care of our carbines for us while they 'borrowed' them. The Garand and Colt are very nice indeed as well.
M1 Carbines are great guns to shoot. The magazines are the weak link in the chain. If you use good high quality mags they run well. Here is a great video with a gentleman I know. Mr Ken Hackathorn.




One of my other oldies but goodies is a 1963-1964 BHP with the internal extractor. It is completely stock. Have not even removed the magazine disconnect. Everything still gets shot.




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I'll show you my shotguns - both Beretta. Semiautomatic A300 Outlander - for hunting, shotgun 686 - for the stand.
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Is the reflex sight really an improvement at a shotgun? Just asking...
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I have ghost rings on my 870 and like it for accuracy particularly for longer range slugs.
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Is the reflex sight really an improvement at a shotgun? Just asking...
It is considered a classic when shooting the plates.
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Is the reflex sight really an improvement at a shotgun? Just asking...
I think so... especially since I shoot a lot of slugs with my M4.
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I haven't enough experience with shotguns to judge this, therefore my question. For me those guns were more like "spreading the joy to the suckers" so to speak
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Perhaps this is an opportune moment to mention my range shells of choice? Fiocchi Match grade 3G+JM slugs in particular are really sweet flyers. Easy to put these slugs on target even at 100yds with my modded M4. Jerry Miculek knows what he's doing.

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IBM M1 Carbine made in 1943-1944 It was rearsenaled with a Winchester stock and sent to Bavaria at one time.







From there the res of my stuff jumps to the 60s. Browning High Powers, Colts etc....
Nice, my original S.G. M1 carbine is one of my favorite guns to shoot. It’s cool owning a little piece of history.
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In the end it is not about the arrow it is about the indian. There is no magic bullet. There is no stopping power when it comes to handguns. Accuracy is more important that what bullet you are using. The Black Talon is ancient bullet tech by todays standards. The current Winchester Ranger T with the STX bullet replaced the old Talon years ago. The advancement in bullet tech is why everyone, like the FBI, is going back to 9mm. I will take accuracy over speed. It is all about delivering fast effective hit no matter what bullet you are using. Pretty much any of the modern hollow points in any caliber 9mm and above will be effective if you do your part.
I don't disagree, quick on target shot placement will win every time. There are lots of great rounds out there, but as I have said a number of times they aren't worth a shit if you don't hit centre mass. Also getting the rounds down range fast is critical. And you never know how you'll perform under pressure until you're under real pressure.
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Are you suggesting a bp gun fight?
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Are you suggesting a bp gun fight?

Pistols at noon.
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Maybe we could start with some long range stuff so some people are still alive for the pistols
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Maybe we could start with some long range stuff so some people are still alive for the pistols
I'm down with that.
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I'm out I dont have any half mile calibers. My 308 isnt the most accurate thing being battle rifle.
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I'm out I dont have any half mile calibers. My 308 isnt the most accurate thing being battle rifle.
No worries, I'm more a CQB type of guy.....might be the rum talking.
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I'd like to reach out and shoot some steel at 500 plus
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I don't disagree, quick on target shot placement will win every time. There are lots of great rounds out there, but as I have said a number of times they aren't worth a shit if you don't hit centre mass. Also getting the rounds down range fast is critical. And you never know how you'll perform under pressure until you're under real pressure.
As Larry Vickers like to say. Fast in fine accuracy is final.



I also agree wit Rob "Cyborg" Leatham.



Always shoot as fast as you can shoot accurately. The problem is that most people shoot too fast.

For my money "The Test" is a good tool to judge where you are. If you can shoot "The Test" cold no warm up in under 10 seconds clean you are pretty good with a pistol IMHO.

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