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The M340 is trying to play in the same space as the M3 in so much as both are rapid performance saloons. The M340 isn't the luxury best-of-both worlds option as tbh it's pretty low-rent inside compared to the M3 and the M3 out does it in both the performance pedigree and interior. Whereas with the M50i you get a luxury comfortable cruiser to match a RR with top end performance or the X5M you get a high-quality performance monster with all the trimmings you'd expect from M division. It really depends on what you want from the car as both offer different things whereas the M340i is alway going to be deemed the "wish I had an M3" car by most people save for the owners of them. |
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The 2021 M50i has option 4MC Carbon Fiber Trim available as a $300 option.
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Out of topic question Sorry OP with air suspension, can you set up the car to be always at the lowest setting? Or does the car reset itself to standard height every time you turn it on or off?
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If you code your vehicle to start in Sport mode, the air suspension should always stay in Sport level. As long as you don't adjust the air suspension when you turn your vehicle off and exit, it'll stay in level set until your next drive. For example: 1. Exit and lock in Normal level, stays in Normal level until next drive off 2. Exit and lock in Sport level, stays in Sport level until next drive off 3. Exit in Normal level; later on you need to load boxes into trunk, you open the trunk and press the Load level button on the tailgate, air suspension lowers to Load level; you load up the trunk, close trunk and lock; vehicle stays in Load level until next drive off *Air suspension behavior when turning on your vehicle: - If you left the air suspension in Normal or Sport level: unlocking, entering, turning your vehicle on and driving off - air suspension stays in level set. - If you left the air suspension in High 1/2 or Load level: unlocking, entering, turning your vehicle on, and driving off - air suspension will adjust to Normal level. - Unlocking, entering, turning your vehicle on, and pressing any of the Driving Dynamics mode will adjust the air suspension to Normal or Sport depending on mode selected. TLDR; Things I've learned Always, always set your Driving Dynamics mode before manually adjusting your air suspension! Or it will cancel your manual adjustment, depending on the Driving Dynamics mode selected. Apologies for the long write up!
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Where as with the X5 M50i and X5M you get two very plush interiors just different styles ie one is aimed at the luxury SUV feel and the other at best in class performance SUV. Last edited by Unit; 08-12-2020 at 06:30 AM.. |
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Comparing F chassis 3 series to M3 there are some minor differences. My brother inlaw had a F30 340xi Msport and I had a F80 M3 Competition. At first glance they look almost the same except for the following differences:
Seats (this is a massive difference in the way they look and hold you) Merino leather used in the M Sportier trims Black headliner Beefier Steering wheel with M stitch M Stitch seat belts Those changes added together did make the interior of the M3 look/feel more special. Even my brother in law said the same thing. The biggest thing was the seats. They hold you like a fine tailored slimfit suit vs his msport seats feels more like a off the rack "classic" fit one. The difference in the X5M vs X5M50i isn't nearly as drastic. Seats (the euro markets can get similar seats as an option) Full Merino Leather extending down to the lower door panels (looks like 2021 can't get full leather anymore on the non M) Soft close doors (no longer a option for 2021 but its useless anyway) M stitch seat belts Pretty much the look & feel of the front seats is the biggest difference for the X5M because you can option a regular X5 with some of the other stuff. Both interiors are simply beautiful and a joy to be in regardless.
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As you can see, the choice isn't easy. I think BMW is smart in providing both variants.
Over the past 14 months I have gone from a '16 F15 50i with DHP, to a 2019 X5 40i (don't ask) to a 2020 X3M to X5 M50i. If you can afford and justify an ///M, get it. Nothing drives like an ///M. That being said, I enjoy my M50i. The similarities between the M50 and M are fewer than you think. There is a reason why most parts are stamped ///M on true M's. Do you want a smile or huge smile every time you push that pedal down? If. huge smile....Buy the M. Do you desire to drive something very few will be driving and is instantly noticed? Buy the M. For me, I couldn't justify the payment for my personal circumstances and I got a smoking deal on the M50i build. Plus I needed to unload the X3M before the bottom fell out on values. I wanted more room over the X3M, but I can tell you, every time I'm hammer down and midway through 3rd gear in the M50i, I wish I had an ///M. Every time I throw it into a turn, I wonder how much better that turn would have been in a true ///M. Again, both are amazing vehicles that check off different boxes, that is evident by the other post. Now with limitations on the finer options (soft close doors, etc), the X5M might be a better choice now. Unless you wait until mid MY cycle when some of the options might be available again (would be the first time BMW updated the options). Do you want the prom date that every else will be looking at and wishing they were with or do you want the prom date that your children will see pictures of when you go through the family photo album? At the end if the day, you have to appreciate life and your accomplishments be vacillating over such a decision. |
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coming from E70 X5M so not too nervous about firm ride either! just wish F95 had more suspension options to get rid of that hideous wheel gap, u can fix that with body kit and bigger wheels or wait for coiloveres or springs options (I'm sure they coming pretty soon) I was debating how much it would cost me to get "lower" trim and make it an M and its just doesn't make sense. M wheels have to go for sure but this is a different story!
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I've a 2020 M50i with DHP, haven't driven the new X5M, have driven the previous model and liked both the driving dynamics and suspension feel.
While it's quick and luxurious, there's no hiding the weight of the M50i and to me the steering feels too light and sloppy. (Rear almost feels like it's on casters) Not sure if it's the rear wheel steering or just the sheer overall size but there's no hiding the weight and it doesn't feel as connected to the road as I'd like it to. (Came from a Mercedes GLC43 that at 1000lbs less handled amazing and felt very connected to the road) I drive in sport plus most of the time, and I wish there was a "next up" setting that stiffened the suspension by 30%. X5M hands down looks so much better, with mine being blacked out without seeing the badge or exhaust on the back it looks identical to a 40i. That said, it might not sound like it but I really do like the M50i. It is very luxurious. The X5's all look great regardless of model and this is quick and sounds good albeit a little quiet for my taste. The X5M wasn't available when I ordered it, and even at that in Canada the sticker on my M50i is about $30,000 less than a similarly optioned X5M, and the lease payment on a 24,000km/yr M50i more than $1000 less a month than the X5M with the 16,000km a year lease option. |
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Exact reason why 10 years ago my first BMW was an M3 ... but I'm old school I guess because I don't even think about that in an SUV because SUV.
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