[thereef510]

Is there any way to get these software upgrades over the air or can you only get major updates through the dealer?

Seems unfair if bmw keeps releasing updates to their software that only the dealer can put on there but won't because it costs them money wtf

[edofloat]

Originally Posted by thereef510

Is there any way to get these software upgrades over the air or can you only get major updates through the dealer?

Seems unfair if bmw keeps releasing updates to their software that only the dealer can put on there but won't because it costs them money wtf

Some have been OTA updated from 03/2019.xx to 11/2019.70 which is a big update.

[thereef510]

Originally Posted by edofloat

Some have been OTA updated from 03/2019.xx to 11/2019.70 which is a big update.

Where do you go to check that

[edofloat]

Originally Posted by thereef510

Where do you go to check that

Look in settings then check for update, it checks and tells you if one is available and also tells you your current version of istep.

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by thereef510

Where do you go to check that

I would download it via the Connected Drive phone App over WiFi at home first.

Then connect the phone to your car as normal (Bluetooth and WiFi) and it downloads from your phone into the car. Once its downloaded, find a safe place to park, then initiate the upgrade.

[VTENGR]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

I would download it via the Connected Drive phone App over WiFi at home first.

Then connect the phone to your car as normal (Bluetooth and WiFi) and it downloads from your phone into the car. Once its downloaded, find a safe place to park, then initiate the upgrade.

^^ This. What I did is just waited until I got home and parked the car in the garage. iDrive tells you the leave the keys in the car, so I did that. After that there's no input needed from you so you can go. I went inside and my connected drive app sent me a notification when it was all done. Very easy.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

The G05 model was only released in 2018, so all our cars should still be under warranty.

Imagine if Microsoft charged for every software patch they released for Windows 10?

If BMW want to treat their cars as "Platforms", then the cost of support for their car is surely covered under the "free" servicing agreements?

I have 4-years/80,000km "free servicing" on my car - so I expect the latest software releases after each service, especially considering how the car's features and safety systems are linked to software.

That is not the way that BMWNA looks at it. Getting an update is not covered under warranty work unless it fixes a specific issue. My understanding is that has always been the case with BNWNA. Now with OTAs it will probably be very difficult to get an update unless warranted except where a person has a good relationship with their dealer.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by adamjs83

I was referring to this.

The map does seem to look a bit different but have not played around with it.

[Splang]

Hi all
Got mine update to the July .25 update today (UK) not sure if anything has changed... will have to play with it.

[speuk]

Originally Posted by Splang

Hi all
Got mine update to the July .25 update today (UK) not sure if anything has changed... will have to play with it.

I assume that was a dealer update?

[jokinawa]

I just had this argument 2 weeks ago with my service rep.

He finally put me on the phone with the technician.

I was arguing that I wanted the rear A/C to work with seats folded. After a short discussion the tech said that they have to ask BMWNA to cover it under warranty for the dealer to be reimbursed.

He asked me if there was anything wrong with the car. I told him the rear A/C didn't work when the rear seat are folded down. Hi filed it as rear A/C not working. I got my upgrade.

For the next one I will just say Android Auto isn't working so I can go to 07/2020. This o e should have some interesting coding options unless the pushed them. Some of the settings for stop sign and traffic light detection required this version so hopefully the early adopters can code those.

Can someone look under the drivers assistance and safety features to see if there is any new boxes there?

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

That is not the way that BMWNA looks at it. Getting an update is not covered under warranty work unless it fixes a specific issue. My understanding is that has always been the case with BNWNA. Now with OTAs it will probably be very difficult to get an update unless warranted except where a person has a good relationship with their dealer.

That's OK, I dont mind getting it OTA, as long as I get it.

The way I see it, if my car is at the dealer for a service (oil change or whatever), what is the extra effort in just upgrading the car to the latest version of S/W in the background?

BMW seriously needs to become more Customer centric and take some pride in their work, rather than upgrade when their customers "plead and beg" (or make up BS) for an upgrade.
Back in the early 2000s, I had a Toyota Highlander - and the level of support and care at the Toyota service centre was amazing - 2nd to none.

Anyways, I'm on 11/2019.70 now which I got OTA 3-4 weeks ago.

It will be interesting to see in the next few months if 03/2020.xx comes through over OTA.

[TurtleBoy]

^ I totally agree with you. In my opinion updating iDrive to the latest version should just be part of the normal maintenance that is done when an oil change is performed. While in some cases it may take hours for the update in most cases it is fairly quick and the time should just be considered part of the paid maintenance.

[ifr]

Originally Posted by jokinawa

I just had this argument 2 weeks ago with my service rep.

He finally put me on the phone with the technician.

I was arguing that I wanted the rear A/C to work with seats folded. After a short discussion the tech said that they have to ask BMWNA to cover it under warranty for the dealer to be reimbursed.

He asked me if there was anything wrong with the car. I told him the rear A/C didn't work when the rear seat are folded down. Hi filed it as rear A/C not working. I got my upgrade.

For the next one I will just say Android Auto isn't working so I can go to 07/2020. This o e should have some interesting coding options unless the pushed them. Some of the settings for stop sign and traffic light detection required this version so hopefully the early adopters can code those.

Can someone look under the drivers assistance and safety features to see if there is any new boxes there?

J- they won't get the new features active such as TLA unless they have a 0720 build (MY2021).

I'm scheduled to get 07/2020.25 next week so I'll code TLA and Digital Key 1.5 and see what happens.

I'm not confident.

07/2020 should be delivered OTA from October all being well.

[Splang]

Originally Posted by speuk

I assume that was a dealer update?

Hi
Yes, dealer update.
I love that I can now get the voice assistant to do things like change the drive mode and also open and close windows etc

[TK - 421]

Originally Posted by Splang

Hi
Yes, dealer update.
I love that I can now get the voice assistant to do things like change the drive mode and also open and close windows etc

need this update for the misses

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by jokinawa

Can someone look under the drivers assistance and safety features to see if there is any new boxes there?

I didn't see anything new under Driver's Assistance.

[edtreo]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I didn't see anything new under Driver's Assistance.

I was also hoping to see traffic light and road sign recognition.
I'm having issues with curve on the road and recognizing stopped car on approach. Hopefully there is an improvement there.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by edtreo

I was also hoping to see traffic light and road sign recognition.

My guess is that they won't make that available for existing X5s and only MY21 and beyond will have it similar to ADV and PDC with braking intervention for the MY20s. They need to have some differentiation between MYs.

Will probably be able to enable it with coding.

[TurtleBoy]

Update:

1. My CarPlay is still disconnecting quite frequently. Unfortunately the shop foreman was probably correct when he said it was due to the phone being older (iPhone 7) and the recent update to iOS. The problem started after updating the iOS version, I think it was 13.4.1 but have upgraded since and still have the problem. Just ordered a new iPhone which hopefully will take care of the problem.

2. So far the Automatic window has not worked. I set up two different activation points and the window has not opened when reaching either. When I get some time I will do some more thorough testing.

[ifr]

Originally Posted by edtreo

I was also hoping to see traffic light and road sign recognition.
I'm having issues with curve on the road and recognizing stopped car on approach. Hopefully there is an improvement there.

Most probable path bending is available in 07/2020, but like most of the features, is only coded 'on' for MY2021.

I already have traffic light and road sign recognition (enabled by coding), but that is different to Traffic Light Assistant. The former displays stop/give way/red lights in the instrument cluster/hud, and slows the vehicle. TLA completely stops the vehicle at red Traffic Lights.

[homerrr]

Originally Posted by ifr

Most probable path bending is available in 07/2020, but like most of the features, is only coded 'on' for MY2021.

I already have traffic light and road sign recognition (enabled by coding), but that is different to Traffic Light Assistant. The former displays stop/give way/red lights in the instrument cluster/hud, and slows the vehicle. TLA completely stops the vehicle at red Traffic Lights.

Can't wait for that, love my ASLA but that would complete it!