[PJ///M]

So a client of mine has offered me his Vossen HF-5 wheels as a gift. He took them off of his Maserati when he put his winter setup on and he has his eye on something else when summer comes around.

The Vossen specs are:
Front 22 x 10.5 5x130 bolt pattern +20mm offset
Rear 22 x 11.5 5x130 bolt pattern +50mm offset

Currently I have BMW OEM 22” style 742 which specs are:
Front 22 x 9.5 5x112 bolt pattern +37mm offset
Rear 22 x 10.5 5x112 bolt pattern + 43mm offset

I’m wondering how to make his wheels work on my 2024 X5 LCI with Msport brakes.
To make the bolt pattern work, I know that redrilling is an option.
Also adapters are an option.
What is really throwing me off is the offset.
Is the 50mm offset of the Vossen to great?
Will adapters with a certain thickness reduce the offset to an acceptable range?

Any advice on how to make this work before I pass these wheels up?
It would be great to have them as a second set designated for summer with my 742’s for the winter, or vice versa.
Please help!!

[bforbrian]

The rear's would be able to work with a 130 to 112 adapter, since you can add a thick adapter that will function as spacers as well, but the issue I think will be the front. 10.5 +20 up front without adapters is far too aggressive. Not sure what the thinnest possible adapter is, but I'm sure it would have to be at least 15mm? In which case it would push the offset even lower to +5. Just some rough thoughts that are going through my head.

[mmm50i]

Originally Posted by bforbrian

The rear's would be able to work with a 130 to 112 adapter, since you can add a thick adapter that will function as spacers as well, but the issue I think will be the front. 10.5 +20 up front without adapters is far too aggressive. Not sure what the thinnest possible adapter is, but I'm sure it would have to be at least 15mm? In which case it would push the offset even lower to +5. Just some rough thoughts that are going through my head.

I was thinking wheel adapeters too. I think the minimum thickness for adapters is 25mm though. So the rears would have a +25mm offset which is perfect (I run 12F/15R spacers myself) but the fronts won’t fit. They’ll extend too far out past the fenders with a -5mm offset…

I have no experience with redrilling the bolt pattern on a wheel. OP, you should reach out to wheel repair shops in the area to find out if it’s possible. If it is, you only need spacers on the rear wheels for them to fit the X5. The front wheels at +20mm will be very aggressive at stock height. But if you’re lowered or if you have air suspension, then it’s not a concern.

[PJ///M]

Originally Posted by bforbrian

The rear's would be able to work with a 130 to 112 adapter, since you can add a thick adapter that will function as spacers as well, but the issue I think will be the front. 10.5 +20 up front without adapters is far too aggressive. Not sure what the thinnest possible adapter is, but I'm sure it would have to be at least 15mm? In which case it would push the offset even lower to +5. Just some rough thoughts that are going through my head.

The minimum thickness on an adapter that I can find would be 15mm.
So as an example. Right now my rear has an offset of +43
With this new setup, the rim has a +50mm offset, and I’d be adding an additional 15mm adapter to total a 65mm offset?

[PJ///M]

Originally Posted by mmm50i

I was thinking wheel adapeters too. I think the minimum thickness for adapters is 25mm though. So the rears would have a +25mm offset which is perfect (I run 12F/15R spacers myself) but the fronts won’t fit. They’ll extend too far out past the fenders with a -5mm offset…

I have no experience with redrilling the bolt pattern on a wheel. OP, you should reach out to wheel repair shops in the area to find out if it’s possible. If it is, you only need spacers on the rear wheels for them to fit the X5. The front wheels at +20mm will be very aggressive at stock height. But if you’re lowered or if you have air suspension, then it’s not a concern.

I’m definitely going to reach out to a repair shop. Hoping I find one reputable near me. I have to assume that not only does too much of a positive offset look too agreesive, but it has to effect the vehicle safety/performance/etc….. also too negative of an offset has to interfere with the brakes and suspension etc…..?

[mmm50i]

Originally Posted by P.J.M

The minimum thickness on an adapter that I can find would be 15mm.
So as an example. Right now my rear has an offset of +43
With this new setup, the rim has a +50mm offset, and I’d be adding an additional 15mm adapter to total a 65mm offset?

If you can find a 15mm 130 to 112 adapter, treat it as a 15mm spacer.

So for the rear wheel with a +50mm offset, the 15mm will be subtracted from it, because it the adapter pushes the wheel outwards. So the wheel will essentially be at a +35mm offset. FWIW, my rear has an offset has an offset of +43mm and I run a 15mm spacer. So the effective offset is 28mm. My front has an offset of +37mm and I run a 12mm spacer, so it's effective offset is 25mm.

Keep in mind, your wheels are 11.5", not 10.5". So you may need more than a +35mm offset for the inside of the wheels to clear the suspension components. With all that said, using a 15mm adapter with the +20mm wheel in the front (+5mm effective offset)...I'm doubtful about that fitment, they will stick out a lot and may rub when you turn your wheels fully.

I've come across bforbrian's FS post for his 10”/11.5" wheels (check out the corresponding offsets for reference). I love these wheels btw!
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1966559

[PJ///M]

Originally Posted by mmm50i

If you can find a 15mm 130 to 112 adapter, treat it as a 15mm spacer.

So for the rear wheel with a +50mm offset, the 15mm will be subtracted from it, because it the adapter pushes the wheel outwards. So the wheel will essentially be at a +35mm offset. FWIW, my rear has an offset has an offset of +43mm and I run a 15mm spacer. So the effective offset is 28mm. My front has an offset of +37mm and I run a 12mm spacer, so it's effective offset is 25mm.

Keep in mind, your wheels are 11.5", not 10.5". So you may need more than a +35mm offset for the inside of the wheels to clear the suspension components. With all that said, using a 15mm adapter with the +20mm wheel in the front (+5mm effective offset)...I'm doubtful about that fitment, they will stick out a lot and may rub when you turn your wheels fully.

I've come across bforbrian's FS post for his 10”/11.5" wheels (check out the corresponding offsets for reference). I love these wheels btw!
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1966559

Okay so here is an update that changes everything.
He wa completely off with the specs he gave me on the Vossen HF5
They are NOT:
Front 22 x 10.5 5x130 bolt pattern +20mm offset
Rear 22 x 11.5 5x130 bolt pattern +50mm offset
They ARE in fact:
Front 22 x 9 5x114 bolt pattern +32mm offset
Rear 22 x 10.5 5x114 bolt pattern +32mm offset
67.1 bore (X5 is 66.6)

The first measurement he gave me were taken by hand, and after a lot of back and forth I realized that and asked for him to look at the inside of the wheels.
It seems that If I get a 5x112 to 5x114 15mm adapter that would change everything but will it work on the X5?
Correct me if I’m wrong
The offset would be 17 front and 17 rear.
Some things that I read that I’m trying to understand.
Some posts say you don’t need an adapter for 5x112 to 5x114.
The bore is not the same. It’s 67.1 and x5 is 66.6 so I need it to be bore centric.
Will the new 9.0 inch wide wheel in front effect the vehicle and differential because it used to be 9.5 width?
Does the change in offset at these amounts effect differential?
Thanks for all your help.
Running out of time to pick these up or pass on them.
Thanks again!

[mmm50i]

This does change everything haha. So let me try my best to summarize everything.

-You can install 67.1mm to 66.6mm hubcentric rings to solve the bore issue easily

-Front wheels 9" at +17mm. The rims will stick out 14mm more than ur OEM 22" front wheels. This is PERFECT, there will be no issues with the suspension components. I have a 12mm spacer, so ur fitment will be similar to mine at 14mm.

-Rear wheels 10.5" +17mm. The rims will stick out 26mm more than the OEM 22" rear wheels. As I mentioned in a previous post, I have 15mm rear spacers, your new wheel will stick out a further 9mm. It'll look very aggressive if your car is at stock height, but if you are lowered, it'll be flush I believe.

Lastly what size are the tires are on the wheels? You want as close to OE tire sizing if possible. The fronts may require a 255 or 265 width tire, due to the wheel width.

[PJ///M]

Originally Posted by mmm50i

This does change everything haha. So let me try my best to summarize everything.

-You can install 67.1mm to 66.6mm hubcentric rings to solve the bore issue easily

-Front wheels 9" at +17mm. The rims will stick out 14mm more than ur OEM 22" front wheels. This is PERFECT, there will be no issues with the suspension components. I have a 12mm spacer, so ur fitment will be similar to mine at 14mm.

-Rear wheels 10.5" +17mm. The rims will stick out 26mm more than the OEM 22" rear wheels. As I mentioned in a previous post, I have 15mm rear spacers, your new wheel will stick out a further 9mm. It'll look very aggressive if your car is at stock height, but if you are lowered, it'll be flush I believe.

Lastly what size are the tires are on the wheels? You want as close to OE tire sizing if possible. The fronts may require a 255 or 265 width tire, due to the wheel width.

Man what a huge help with explaining. Thanks buddy.
So he has on 265/35r22 front 285/35r22 rear. As far as I know, that isn’t ideal because total diameter is not the same front to back. But hey I’m learning as I go.
I planned on putting on my Pirelli summer tires that came with my X5.
They are 275/35r22 front 315/30r22 rear. From what I have researched although the front vossen rim is 9.0 and not the stock 9.5 it still fits safely, and the rear is still the same 10.5.
Any thoughts or corrections?
Appreciate it!

[mmm50i]

Originally Posted by P.J.M

Man what a huge help with explaining. Thanks buddy.
So he has on 265/35r22 front 285/35r22 rear. As far as I know, that isn’t ideal because total diameter is not the same front to back. But hey I’m learning as I go.
I planned on putting on my Pirelli summer tires that came with my X5.
They are 275/35r22 front 315/30r22 rear. From what I have researched although the front vossen rim is 9.0 and not the stock 9.5 it still fits safely, and the rear is still the same 10.5.
Any thoughts or corrections?
Appreciate it!

If the 275/35/22 tires fit on the 9" wheel, definitely go for it. Otherwise, just size down to 265/35/22.

9" wheels fit perfectly fine on the X5. My winter set are the BMW 748M wheels (20x9"), square setup.

Show us some pictures of them on your car when the time comes

[PJ///M]

Originally Posted by mmm50i

If the 275/35/22 tires fit on the 9" wheel, definitely go for it. Otherwise, just size down to 265/35/22.

9" wheels fit perfectly fine on the X5. My winter set are the BMW 748M wheels (20x9"), square setup.

Show us some pictures of them on your car when the time comes

Will do. Thanks for the help!