[MystroX5]

BMW has no clue what their signature design is. They are lost and with their last current design changes and none has gone over well. The more radical the design change, the more unsuccessful it is. For example, 4 of the new 760i have been sitting for months and my dealer can’t give them away even now with a heavy discount off msrp. That’s the kiss of death for a completely new vehicle with all its release hype. The 4 series was the same when it was released. Just sat there on the lot with no takers.

The new X5M has got to find a way to fix its stance by lowering it. The wheel/tire gap is way too high and needs a higher end air suspension like it’s competition uses. The air suspension would also greatly improve its ride quality and versatility. It’s just a way more expensive system that BMW should be using at this level of vehicle.

[iconoclast]

The ironic part is that they designed these new vehicles for Chinese market and "tastes" yet sales dropped over 20% in that market in '22. Brilliant strategy alienating your core customers only to fail at gaining your new target.

[JMD]

Those wheels add zero value to the looks!,...and ditto for the area where the Chin Spoiler meets in the middle!!

Who is in charge of this stuff? They need to get out more to car event and get a real education in automotive aftermarket styling!

I'm one to believe that the wheels should Contrast against the overall style of the vehicle,...and not the wheel's design to get lost in the shadows!

[ddnmkun]

Why don’t BMW just offer black only to all their cars.

[SpaceRock]

I don’t get that moustache thingy in the front. Looking at the x5 as my next car but sorry to say, that black part would make me go for the “old” version. Is there a way to delete the option but keep the M styling?

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by ddnmkun

Why don’t BMW just offer black only to all their cars.

Because not everyone needs another full time job….

[Bmwx5z]

Originally Posted by SpaceRock

I don’t get that moustache thingy in the front. Looking at the x5 as my next car but sorry to say, that black part would make me go for the “old” version. Is there a way to delete the option but keep the M styling?

for the x5 LCI

i like the front bumper design more on the X-line... that awkward black shape touching the grill on the M sport looks odd to me

Side and back I like M sport more... but not as much as how much i dont like the front on msport

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by Vivalamatt

I second that. Not a fan of the black plastic parts at all. Highly prone to swirls. I’d rather have more body color pieces.

And over time they fade and turn blue.

[SpaceRock]

[QUOTE=Bmwx5z;29841533]for the x5 LCI

i like the front bumper design more on the X-line... that awkward black shape touching the grill on the M sport looks odd to me

Side and back I like M sport more... but not as much as how much i dont like the front on msport

You summed it up well - I feel the same. The car is nice, love the interior, don’t mind the lights (but prefer the pre LCI)

[RJC]

It's a cross-eyed Predator's face wearing braces.

[ProteinFart]

Originally Posted by B///MWGuy

Lovin those micro scratches on the black plastic parts..

Exactly why I’m going carbon fiber on all my gloss pieces on the M3 lol. After 5 months of meticulous care they’re starting to show.

[bandersen]

Originally Posted by weinerbarn

That thing looks like the Predator's face after it was unmasked.

Damn - I had to go back and look but you’re right.
What a great movie back in the day.

[swainbmw]

Originally Posted by SpaceRock

I don’t get that moustache thingy in the front. Looking at the x5 as my next car but sorry to say, that black part would make me go for the “old” version. Is there a way to delete the option but keep the M styling?

You could always go to a shop that specializes in wraping cars and make it white or take it off and have it painted.

[dream54ing]

inspired by our winter tires

[ArchJR]

Originally Posted by SpaceRock

I don’t get that moustache thingy in the front. Looking at the x5 as my next car but sorry to say, that black part would make me go for the “old” version. Is there a way to delete the option but keep the M styling?

I am interested in a the X5 50e and would probably skip the M Sport package, even after having four BMWs in a row so equipped. The treatment has gone form understatedly sporty to overtly tortured on some recent models.

I recall BMW offered the shadowline package on some standard models in years past, like the F10 5-series. Perhaps an xLine with black trim and the adaptive suspension will be a good compromise. It's not like the X5 M Sport drives differently, compared to models like the 3-series that have an M Sport specific suspension.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

BMW has no clue what their signature design is. They are lost and with their last current design changes and none has gone over well. The more radical the design change, the more unsuccessful it is. For example, 4 of the new 760i have been sitting for months and my dealer can’t give them away even now with a heavy discount off msrp. That’s the kiss of death for a completely new vehicle with all its release hype. The 4 series was the same when it was released. Just sat there on the lot with no takers.

The new X5M has got to find a way to fix its stance by lowering it. The wheel/tire gap is way too high and needs a higher end air suspension like its competition uses. The air suspension would also greatly improve its ride quality and versatility. It’s just a way more expensive system that BMW should be using at this level of vehicle.

Ground height anyway for a light truck is dictated by .gov
“Higher end” air suspensions introduce more complexity and failure prone systems.
True M does not need air suspension, those buyers that need “ride quality” need a non M vehicle.

[JK479]

OMG- “headgear” for the BMW mouth LCI got its braces off its teeth….

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by JMD

Those wheels add zero value to the looks!,...and ditto for the area where the Chin Spoiler meets in the middle!!

Who is in charge of this stuff? They need to get out more to car event and get a real education in automotive aftermarket styling!

I'm one to believe that the wheels should Contrast against the overall style of the vehicle,...and not the wheel's design to get lost in the shadows!

Complement, not contrast

[Tehnoid]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

BMW has no clue what their signature design is. They are lost and with their last current design changes and none has gone over well. The more radical the design change, the more unsuccessful it is. For example, 4 of the new 760i have been sitting for months and my dealer can’t give them away even now with a heavy discount off msrp. That’s the kiss of death for a completely new vehicle with all its release hype. The 4 series was the same when it was released. Just sat there on the lot with no takers.

The new X5M has got to find a way to fix its stance by lowering it. The wheel/tire gap is way too high and needs a higher end air suspension like it’s competition uses. The air suspension would also greatly improve its ride quality and versatility. It’s just a way more expensive system that BMW should be using at this level of vehicle.

It's unlikely to be a costing issue. The current setup is too firm for a lot of people in the X3-X6M SAV's but it's more they are setup that was on purpose from handling perspective. Throttle house had a good piece on their X5M review about how air suspension would not demonstratively add to the cost but was needed and how they have preferred the X3 4.0 and X5 5.0 to the pure M models last generation due to the firm ride.

My 2013 M5 was so ridiculously firm in Sports+ it felt like it was going airborne. I think if anything BMW has gone too far in terms of handling sometimes on the bigger models but again at least in terms of the costing of the X5/X6M that isn't the reason.

[PandaSPUR]

All these comments bout the firm ride of the true M variants had me leaning towards a GLE 63... until I test drove a X5MC.

No idea what people are complaining about. Felt great to me. Soft enough that bumps didnt cause actual discomfort but firm enough so that I could actually feel the bump (and the road in general).

For drivers familiar with Brooklyn, NY, I purposely stayed in the left most lane of Bay Parkway during my test drive too. Drove over storm drain after storm drain. Normally headache, back ache, body ache inducing with my BRZ but felt fine in the X5MC.

[hoyasaxa]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

The ironic part is that they designed these new vehicles for Chinese market and "tastes" yet sales dropped over 20% in that market in '22. Brilliant strategy alienating your core customers only to fail at gaining your new target.

Did you see the new M2 thread? That thing looks like a low-poly video game model and people are acting like it’s great. It’s awful.

And all the newest cars, X5 LCI included, are getting glossy black plastic haptic buttons with no travel (for what few buttons remain) and shoving everything else into infotainment that looks tacked on as an afterthought.

As well as losing the dashboard cover basically so it’s just steering wheel with screen.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

Did you see the new M2 thread? That thing looks like a low-poly video game model and people are acting like it’s great. It’s awful.

And all the newest cars, X5 LCI included, are getting glossy black plastic haptic buttons with no travel (for what few buttons remain) and shoving everything else into infotainment that looks tacked on as an afterthought.

As well as losing the dashboard cover basically so it’s just steering wheel with screen.

CEO said his goal is to cut the number of parts per vehicle and simplify production process. Pretty much copy Tesla while charging lux vehicle prices. Basically pinch on the bottom and grow the top. The best thing to do is vote with your wallet.