[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I was referring to the iDrive setting figuring that if it was set to 24 then it shouldn't draw more than that even with the flex at 40A.

It technically will work, but to use a larger EVSE than circuit support, this itself is a code violation. If there is an inspection, it won't pass it. It is for a good reason.

The good reason is, if for any reason, the car's setting is reset, it become very dangerous. This happened to a coworker's Model S. Current limit is reset by OTA update. Fire started that night at 1am when everyone is sleeping. Another possible scenario is if a friend with EV come over and need top off, they can potential draw 40A as well.

[jad03060]

It is possible that the various adapter cables used for the new EVSE correctly program the EVSE to an appropriate maximum value...there appears to be more pins in the cable than would be required for simple power and ground. But, yes, plugging in a device that can draw more power than the circuit can support should not be done...there's a good reason that this sort of device is limited to 80% of the circuit's maximum theoretical (short-term) limits.

[Jongp3]

Appreciate the replies, lots of arm chair electricians here. I will update when I have the car and charger. If BMW sells a 14-30 adapter then there should be a setting to limit the charge to 24A.
I'm not super concerned about the setting changing via OTA/Act of God, if everything works as it should the circuit breaker will trip well before any fire hazard. In the rare event it doesn't, I have insurance for those rare events. But I appreciate all the replies.

[walketed]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

with the 50e flexible fast charger, you won’t need to invest in a separate level 2 EVSE because it can charge at that level; you’ll just need to buy the adapter, but you may incur additional costs for installation of a 240V circuit if your situation warrants

for U.S. vehicles:
level 1 = 110/120V
level 2 = 240V

So the adapter that I need is to plug the fast charger to a 240V circuit on the wall? NEMA 14-50?

Is it possible to use a regular outlet with a 240V circuit? so I don't have to get the adapter? Or the 240V circuits have to use the NEMA 14-50?

[javapro]

Originally Posted by walketed

So the adapter that I need is to plug the fast charger to a 240V circuit on the wall? NEMA 14-50?

Is it possible to use a regular outlet with a 240V circuit? so I don't have to get the adapter? Or the 240V circuits have to use the NEMA 14-50?

YOU HAVE TO USE NEMA 14-50 outlets with 208/240V 50 amps rated circuits! 120V outlets are not designed to handle the voltage that is twice as high and they definitely can't handle 50 amps of the NEMA 14-50 spec. Never mix level 1 and level 2 outlets as you asking for a thermal event, aka fire!

[javapro]

Originally Posted by fr_tz

I just ran it and will report back tomorrow. I can understand how some may be upset with this but we’re really enjoying this X5. Really pleased with it and the power is just tremendous.

Did you get the report?

[eelnoraa]

The above comment, absolutely. If you start a thermal event due to a purposed NEC code violation, I am not sure insurance will be on your side.

The key is, if you already have wiring setup for 240V 50A (6AWG wire), replacing that outlet is like $20. If you don't have proper wiring setup, the plug doesn't mean much.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by walketed

So the adapter that I need is to plug the fast charger to a 240V circuit on the wall? NEMA 14-50?

Is it possible to use a regular outlet with a 240V circuit? so I don't have to get the adapter? Or the 240V circuits have to use the NEMA 14-50?

if you want to charge at level 2, you’ll need that adapter and a 240V circuit with a NEMA 14-50 outlet to plug the adapter into

outlets are “windows” to the respective voltages that power them. it’s like that for safety reasons, e.g. standard electric code. if someone installed a common household outlet (NEMA 5-15) on a 240V circuit, some unsuspecting person will come along, see that outlet and plug in their phone charger… BOOM! 💥 so to answer your question, that’s a NO because it’s a code violation

it may do some good to read up a little about EV charging, the different levels, etc, so you understand what’s involved. if you still have questions, can always look it up here or consult a qualified electrician

[fr_tz]

Originally Posted by javapro

Did you get the report?

Yes

Energy content of the high-voltage battery
20
kWh
01.05.2023 17:43:02 UTC
01.05.2023 17:43:02 UTC
BEV_PHEV_DATA
vehicle.drivetrain.batteryManagement.maxEnergy

[Paul100]

I got the NEMA 14-50 adapter for the BMW Flexible fast charger off of eBay. its brand new, they wanted Buy Now 120 or "make an offer" I offered 95 bucks and they accepted. BMW #61905A13A61. Should be here Thursday, I guess I'll find out if I got took or not. Looks like they may have another one to sell as well.
eBay item 364240576015 for anyone that is interested.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by fr_tz

Yes

Thanks. Another owner in my Facebook 50e group ran the BMW CarData report on his newly purchased 50e and confirmed that the usable battery capacity in the US is only 20 kWh! That’s only 68% of the net capacity (29.5 kWh) while 45e actually has it at 71%! Unbelievable! Hauling all this extra weight and not being able to use over 30% of it!

[walketed]

Originally Posted by Paul100

I got the NEMA 14-50 adapter for the BMW Flexible fast charger off of eBay. its brand new, they wanted Buy Now 120 or "make an offer" I offered 95 bucks and they accepted. BMW #61905A13A61. Should be here Thursday, I guess I'll find out if I got took or not. Looks like they may have another one to sell as well.
eBay item 364240576015 for anyone that is interested.

The seller is "quicksell0000"?

[walketed]

Somebody knows if we can charge the X5 2024 with a level 3 charger? Does the car supports it?

[jad03060]

Originally Posted by walketed

Somebody knows if we can charge the X5 2024 with a level 3 charger? Does the car supports it?

FWIW, while some call a CCS (DC fast charge) level 3, that is not how it is described in the specifications. No, the X5 PHEVs do NOT support CCS charging, only ACV charging using 12/240vac.

Europe called the different types differently than what we do in the USA, so it can get confusing when a forum is international.

[KT_OH]

Originally Posted by walketed

The seller is "quicksell0000"?

I ordered mine from bmwnorthwest.com. Originally has a note that it was out of stock - just rec'd notice it shipped. Cost was $148 + S&H

[Paul100]

Originally Posted by walketed

The seller is "quicksell0000"?

Yes that is the seller. The one I ordered got delivered today so one day early and is brand new in the sealed plastic bag. I offered 95 bucks and it was accepted immediately so I think you could offer maybe even a little less and see.
I was going to buy it at BMWNorthwest when I pick me car up since that is my dealer and supposedly they will give you 10% off any accessories you purchase on delivery day. I was also going to argue for it to be "thrown in" with the sale, but they haven't been to interested in any negotiations so I just said screw it I'll get my accessories some place else.

[walketed]

Originally Posted by Paul100

Yes that is the seller. The one I ordered got delivered today so one day early and is brand new in the sealed plastic bag. I offered 95 bucks and it was accepted immediately so I think you could offer maybe even a little less and see.
I was going to buy it at BMWNorthwest when I pick me car up since that is my dealer and supposedly they will give you 10% off any accessories you purchase on delivery day. I was also going to argue for it to be "thrown in" with the sale, but they haven't been to interested in any negotiations so I just said screw it I'll get my accessories some place else.

I offered him 90, and it was declined . So I offered 95 and he accepted. Thanks for the tip!

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by Paul100

Yes that is the seller. The one I ordered got delivered today so one day early and is brand new in the sealed plastic bag. I offered 95 bucks and it was accepted immediately so I think you could offer maybe even a little less and see.
I was going to buy it at BMWNorthwest when I pick me car up since that is my dealer and supposedly they will give you 10% off any accessories you purchase on delivery day. I was also going to argue for it to be "thrown in" with the sale, but they haven't been to interested in any negotiations so I just said screw it I'll get my accessories some place else.

Originally Posted by walketed

I offered him 90, and it was declined . So I offered 95 and he accepted. Thanks for the tip!

is the adapter OEM?

[tdlutz24]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

is the adapter OEM?

It shows in the picture it is. I will update when mine arrives...

[fr_tz]

Is it me to think you guys are nuts for buying something like that 3rd party? You’re saving 50 bucks. Is it really worth the risk?

[deano17]

Originally Posted by jkramerXXX7

I have ditched the Flexible Fast charger that came with my 50e. I installed two level 2 Chargepoint chargers. One at work and one at home. They charge my car from 0 to 100% in a little over 3 hours. I had them installed about a month before receiving the car. I chose not to use plugs but rather hard wired them.

Why did you ditch the flexible fast charger?

[tdlutz24]

Originally Posted by fr_tz

Is it me to think you guys are nuts for buying something like that 3rd party? You’re saving 50 bucks. Is it really worth the risk?

It is a BMW part. Look at the picture. Factory PN and packaging. Why not?