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      11-13-2020, 03:39 PM   #23
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I don’t have the glass volume knob and definitely have a mesh roof liner with the rest of the interior being Alcantra

2021 40i with the Canadian Ultimate package including sky lounge

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      11-13-2020, 03:51 PM   #24
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I've owned more vehicles than I can remember at this point and have never given a moments thought to headliner material. What the hell difference does it make?
lol what the hell difference to rims/tires/shadowline exteriors and other options of the like make? they aren't meant to be functional differences, they just look different/better, and that's the point.
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I've owned more vehicles than I can remember at this point and have never given a moments thought to headliner material. What the hell difference does it make?
lol what the hell difference to rims/tires/shadowline exteriors and other options of the like make? they aren't meant to be functional differences, they just look different/better, and that's the point.
Right?! Might as well drive a farm tractor.
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      11-13-2020, 05:58 PM   #26
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Right?! Might as well drive a farm tractor.
That is an absolutely stupid comment. Who ever looks at or touches their headliner? Ridiculous as is a bunch of that other soft ball stuff like massaging seats and heated/cooled cup holders. Bunch of crap to jack the price and unload your wallet. Farm tractor indeed Pal.
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      11-13-2020, 06:07 PM   #27
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That is an absolutely stupid comment. Who ever looks at or touches their headliner? Ridiculous as is a bunch of that other soft ball stuff like massaging seats and heated/cooled cup holders. Bunch of crap to jack the price and unload your wallet. Farm tractor indeed Pal.
Nevermind the fact that you do touch it when you touch the sun visor, but the leather dashboard option also exists and there's almost no reason to touch the upper dash either but its still a popular option because it looks good and you cant get that in a civic...
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      11-13-2020, 07:01 PM   #28
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Gentlemen please: this isn’t politics, so let’s respect each other’s opinions. Some people care a lot about the aesthetics, others don’t: that’s why these things are called “options.” There is no right or wrong answer to whether they are valuable or not; that will be up to the person that values them.

Meanwhile, in my view, paying for the Alcantara headliner and having a large section of it being another material would be very disappointing. The fact that this is a change for MY21 cars is interesting, but I think we’ve now established that this is indeed a change. And with this knowledge, prospective buyers can at least know what they are buying when they select that option.
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      11-13-2020, 07:32 PM   #29
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For prospective buyers this is good info; however, for the current buyers whose vehicles are being built are unaware of this change. I have not seen any communication from BMW on this material change/tweak - IMO this is unacceptable.
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      11-13-2020, 07:32 PM   #30
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What's going on with the 2021 year model ? did every single BMW contractor go bankrupt during the covid shut down earlier this year ?
This "supply chain issues due to COVID" excuse for 2021 is beginning to seem a lot like cost-cutting to me. BMW took a ton of features and options out of the vehicle for 2021... Obviously they aren't charging more, so I guess there's that, but it still sucks.
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I've owned more vehicles than I can remember at this point and have never given a moments thought to headliner material. What the hell difference does it make?
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Right?! Might as well drive a farm tractor.
That is an absolutely stupid comment. Who ever looks at or touches their headliner? Ridiculous as is a bunch of that other soft ball stuff like massaging seats and heated/cooled cup holders. Bunch of crap to jack the price and unload your wallet. Farm tractor indeed Pal.
speedyman perhaps your intention is good and you're trying to get your point across, but it sounds bit harsh to be honest. IMO, this is a legit concern especially if this wasn't communicated with the owner.
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      11-13-2020, 08:03 PM   #32
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I do have the sky lounge as part of the Executive Package.
Same. Could be a sky lounge thing. Mind you, I always have the cover opened showing the pano roof, so don’t really care if it’s mesh or not.

And yes to the point above re: stop/start being really smooth with the 48V battery. It also gives some extra boost when accelerating. There is a graphic in idrive showing when the 48V is being used and when it is being charged.
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      11-13-2020, 08:12 PM   #33
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I'm not exactly sure what's being asked. The headliner curtain looks and feels like Alcantara to the touch, and matches the surface texture of the surrounding headliner. It's different in the sense that there is not a solid surface underneath like the rest of the headliner - it's a piece of fabric that flexes when you touch it. If you press it, it feels like there is a fine mesh underneath the surface (I'm guessing the material needs to be attached to something), which makes sense because it's, well, a curtain. My best guess is that the fabric is Alcantara (assuming you ordered the Alcantara headliner).

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Spot on. This is a alcantara retractable sun shade. It is what I have in my X7 M50i.
This is the same thing I have on my 2020 X7 40i with an October 2019 build date.
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Okay...that's definitely not what I have. I guess I need to go back to the dealer. Will most likely do that Monday. I'll try to post pictures of mine tomorrow

Thank you for taking the time to reply and post the pics...you've been a huge help.
Can you take a picture so we can compare what you have with what we have?
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      11-14-2020, 02:51 AM   #35
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Okay...that's definitely not what I have. I guess I need to go back to the dealer. Will most likely do that Monday. I'll try to post pictures of mine tomorrow

Thank you for taking the time to reply and post the pics...you've been a huge help.
Can you take a picture so we can compare what you have with what we have?
Will do...
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      11-14-2020, 07:10 AM   #37
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Will do...
Although I can't reach out and touch it, that looks like what the curtain feels like underneath the Alcantara - fine mesh fabric. It's missing the Alcantara covering....
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      11-14-2020, 09:11 AM   #38
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speedyman perhaps your intention is good and you're trying to get your point across, but it sounds bit harsh to be honest. IMO, this is a legit concern especially if this wasn't communicated with the owner.
I can say that I don't care for this connoisseur referring to my brand new '21 M50i as a "farm tractor" because it is not equipped with a bunch of soft guy, cushy, touchy feely fluff.
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Is this the visor?
That's the corner of the curtain against the headliner.
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Most likely an unidentified and undocumented change for international market X5s with option XD5 Alcantara headliner but reserving full XD5 for all market X7/XB7s and X5/6 ///Ms

If I recall option XD5 was removed for USA MY21 X5s 40i and M50i but available only USA MY21 X5 45e's.
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I can say that I don't care for this connoisseur referring to my brand new '21 M50i as a "farm tractor" because it is not equipped with a bunch of soft guy, cushy, touchy feely fluff.
loll bro you're the one who came in here to start the fight and totally derail the topic snowflake
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      11-14-2020, 12:56 PM   #42
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loll bro you're the one who came in here to start the fight and totally derail the topic snowflake
Ah gee, whats the matter? You got a "farm tractor" too, Bro.
Sorry if someone who sees fancy headliners, heated/cooled cup holders, and seat massagers as foolish and useless busts your balls, Bro.
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